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Post by bloodtypered on Jan 3, 2022 21:01:10 GMT
Missing big time
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Post by yyy on Jan 3, 2022 21:02:23 GMT
That's 2 players from a 25 man squad
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Post by bloodtypered on Jan 3, 2022 21:04:52 GMT
That's 2 players from a 25 man squad But the most influential, like other teams
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Post by theoptimist on Jan 3, 2022 21:05:03 GMT
Blackburn trundling along nicely without their playmaker Bradley Dack.
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Post by yyy on Jan 3, 2022 21:07:25 GMT
That's 2 players from a 25 man squad But the most influential, like other teams Well that's what I call bad squad building if you can crumble after losing 2 players in a mediocre league
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Post by sportsman on Jan 3, 2022 21:11:26 GMT
I'm not having them two injuries. Something is badly wrong if you collapse with two players out.
I'm not convinced if they were back next game we're suddenly man City.
The way we set up is too defensive and cautious.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 3, 2022 21:11:33 GMT
Blackburn trundling along nicely without their playmaker Bradley Dack. But if they missed him and Brereton-Diaz, I’m sure they’d be struggling. The reality of the injury situation is that Campbell is still not running at full speed and looks like a passenger half the time. We also only have 3 fit senior midfielders, which isn’t exactly great, and the goalkeeper we’d eventually decided to be Number 1 is out for months as well. Fulham have gone from invincible to barely average now that Mitrovic’s form has turned sour. Bournemouth had a terrible run recently as well when Solanke went off the bubble.
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Post by milky on Jan 3, 2022 21:12:50 GMT
We don't have anyone who gets the team going ,no one capable of rallying the troops.
We had Allen ,Clucas ,Baath and Chester out there today and there was nothing ,absolutely zilch ,leadership shown.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 3, 2022 21:12:56 GMT
I'm sure I read on here just before Souttar's injury about how his head had been turned by transfer talk and that's why he was suddenly playing wank (or words to that effect).
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 3, 2022 21:14:03 GMT
I'm not having them two injuries. Something is badly wrong if you collapse with two players out. I'm not convinced if they were back next game we're suddenly man City. The way we set up is too defensive and cautious. It’s not just Powell and Souttar though. Powell, Souttar, Sawyers, Thompson, Bursik, Sima and Tymon were all missing from the squad today. Our best midfield includes Thompson and Powell (in my opinion). Couple that with Campbell struggling to find form after a year or so out, and now Fletcher is on the injury list again.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 3, 2022 21:14:10 GMT
A good manager would have a good squad, so if you lose a player, someone can step in. We don't have a decent squad, just a few, but not enough very good players.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 3, 2022 21:15:16 GMT
Blackburn trundling along nicely without their playmaker Bradley Dack. Loved his brother Daffy in the cartoons
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Post by theoptimist on Jan 3, 2022 21:15:19 GMT
Blackburn trundling along nicely without their playmaker Bradley Dack. But if they missed him and Brereton-Diaz, I’m sure they’d be struggling. The reality of the injury situation is that Campbell is still not running at full speed and looks like a passenger half the time. We also only have 3 fit senior midfielders, which isn’t exactly great, and the goalkeeper we’d eventually decided to be Number 1 is out for months as well. Fulham have gone from invincible to barely average now that Mitrovic’s form has turned sour. Bournemouth had a terrible run recently as well when Solanke went off the bubble. But we don't have a goalscorer like Brereton-Diaz in our squad do we? ..... Not in Campbell - his ONE good run was few months at start of a season. He MIGHT turn out to be a course and distance goalscorer, but the jurys still out.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 3, 2022 21:18:41 GMT
But if they missed him and Brereton-Diaz, I’m sure they’d be struggling. The reality of the injury situation is that Campbell is still not running at full speed and looks like a passenger half the time. We also only have 3 fit senior midfielders, which isn’t exactly great, and the goalkeeper we’d eventually decided to be Number 1 is out for months as well. Fulham have gone from invincible to barely average now that Mitrovic’s form has turned sour. Bournemouth had a terrible run recently as well when Solanke went off the bubble. But we don't have a goalscorer like Brereton-Diaz in our squad do we? ..... Not in Campbell - his ONE good run was few months at start of a season. He MIGHT turn out to be a course and distance goalscorer, but the jurys still out. Brereton-Diaz has only just started scoring this season. So his one good run is this run. Powell was banging them in for fun at the beginning of the season and it’s not unreasonable to think that he would have been comfortably in double figures by now.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 3, 2022 21:31:42 GMT
Liverpool won the title with 99 points, following season lost VVD to injury and got 69points ending 3rd.
Losing key players hurts, big time.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jan 3, 2022 21:55:33 GMT
It’s a catalogue of disasters, not helped by the burden of FFP, the loaning of assets like Woods, Etebo, Afobe and Woods and the financial loss created by Wimmer, Berahino and Imbula. What do we really expect?
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Post by albundy on Jan 3, 2022 21:57:03 GMT
Liverpool won the title with 99 points, following season lost VVD to injury and got 69points ending 3rd. Losing key players hurts, big time. He is back this year so they must be winning the league again
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Post by elystokie on Jan 3, 2022 22:06:42 GMT
We don't have anyone who gets the team going ,no one capable of rallying the troops. We had Allen ,Clucas ,Baath and Chester out there today and there was nothing ,absolutely zilch ,leadership shown. Agreed, every team needs a gobshite, not to dish out bollockings but to encourage and cajole.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 3, 2022 22:12:40 GMT
Liverpool won the title with 99 points, following season lost VVD to injury and got 69points ending 3rd. Losing key players hurts, big time. He is back this year so they must be winning the league again errrr....yeah, if he returned the same player they'd have had a chance. He hasn't, we need to be prepared for it. If they continue to get results at the same pace they wont achieve what they did before, but they will get 80 points.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 6, 2022 0:23:31 GMT
A good manager would have a good squad, so if you lose a player, someone can step in. We don't have a decent squad, just a few, but not enough very good players. Nonsense. Nobody outside the top six or so Premier clubs has a squad which would be unaffected by losing their two star men and three others who would definitely be in the regular starting line up. Under FFP there is no way you can have that sort of squad in the Championship and if we could how do you suggest we should keep that quality of squad happy if no one gets injured? Most teams go through a season without losing any of their star players long term. For instance Buendia and Pukki both played over 40 matches for Norwich last season, Toney and Jensen played 45 times each for Brentford. We have been desperately unlucky on the injury front for two seasons now.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 6, 2022 1:17:13 GMT
With the number of injuries we've had, I'm surprised that Pottermus is still upright. Might need to secure a backup during this window though.
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Post by s7oke on Jan 6, 2022 4:57:04 GMT
We have a squad that should cope The problem is we have a manager who is stubborn and won’t alter the squad to accommodate the players Admittedly the players aren’t the best but look at most squads in this league They need a kick up the arse
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 7, 2022 13:09:49 GMT
We have a squad that should cope The problem is we have a manager who is stubborn and won’t alter the squad to accommodate the players Admittedly the players aren’t the best but look at most squads in this league They need a kick up the arse The squad should be able to grind out results whilst not being particularly good but they have been shown to be mentally weak and defeatist. It's not the first time that heads have dropped once a star man is injured just as they drop when we concede a goal leading almost every time to conceding a second a short time afterwards. I think losing Sawyers who is obviously quite a leader in the dressing room was the last straw. We have also been left with only 3 midfield players all over 30 andnone of whom can be effective for the full 90 and one who is coming back from a long time out. Apart from TOB we have no alternative.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2022 13:13:56 GMT
Isn’t Vrancic the back up of Powell essentially?
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Post by a on Jan 7, 2022 13:19:37 GMT
Blackburn trundling along nicely without their playmaker Bradley Dack. Loved his brother Daffy in the cartoons Wasn’t he in Dack to the Future?
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 7, 2022 13:26:39 GMT
Isn’t Vrancic the back up of Powell essentially? Not sure but I certainly think it was supposed to be 2 from 3 of Powell, Vrancic and Sawyers
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 7, 2022 13:28:33 GMT
Isn’t Vrancic the back up of Powell essentially? Not sure about that but I think it was supposed to be 2 from Powell, Vrancic and Sawyers with the third coming on from the bench.
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Post by a on Jan 7, 2022 13:40:53 GMT
Isn’t Vrancic the back up of Powell essentially? Absolutely. Sadly possibly not enough nowadays owing to age. I’d love a system to accommodate both to be honest.
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Post by lordb on Jan 7, 2022 14:47:50 GMT
Isn’t Vrancic the back up of Powell essentially? Absolutely. Sadly possibly not enough nowadays owing to age. I’d love a system to accommodate both to be honest. They played together regularly before Powells injury imho they played well together too
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 7, 2022 15:08:57 GMT
Isn’t Vrancic the back up of Powell essentially? I’d agree with that. However, as you have said, he shouldn’t ever be playing three games a week. Ideally a back up isn’t in the team for months at a time and is used in rotation with the star players. Now we have to look for a back up for a back up when Vrancic is tired or out of form.
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