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Post by ange1 on Dec 1, 2021 17:04:39 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 1, 2021 17:11:14 GMT
Ange > you need to change your user name on here to 'that bloody woman' then everyone will know who you are  |
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Post by ange1 on Dec 1, 2021 17:14:59 GMT
I am sure someone, maybe several will come up with a variation on your suggestion!
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Post by bingbang on Dec 1, 2021 17:25:30 GMT
Pathetic that the club have not sorted the lighting on the ramp up to the Gordon Banks statue. It is a catastrophe waiting to happen. As I have stated it could be sorted in a couple of hours.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2021 17:27:47 GMT
I cannot believe that the club are persisting with the stupidity of the so called sterile area behind the dugouts🙄Not one Blackburn member of staff sat in there last Saturday and the club needs to let fans know who had to move out of those seats what their plans are for the following seasons ahead.Totally OTT like other clubs are showing
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Post by werrington on Dec 1, 2021 17:29:21 GMT
Pathetic that the club have not sorted the lighting on the ramp up to the Gordon Banks statue. It is a catastrophe waiting to happen. As I have stated it could be sorted in a couple of hours. Have you not read the minutes bb? |
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Post by theoptimist on Dec 1, 2021 18:25:47 GMT
Pathetic that the club have not sorted the lighting on the ramp up to the Gordon Banks statue. It is a catastrophe waiting to happen. As I have stated it could be sorted in a couple of hours. Have you not read the minutes bb? I presume he HAS read it. Have you? It says the club are reviewing it. That does not mean they have sorted it, does it? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 18:28:27 GMT
We might finally be getting some bus shelters then. That's one that's been long overdue.
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Post by lordb on Dec 1, 2021 18:31:15 GMT
Pathetic that the club have not sorted the lighting on the ramp up to the Gordon Banks statue. It is a catastrophe waiting to happen. As I have stated it could be sorted in a couple of hours. It's not on the clubs land Council property, it's up to them |
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Post by werrington on Dec 1, 2021 18:41:33 GMT
Have you not read the minutes bb? I presume he HAS read it. Have you? It says the club are reviewing it. That does not mean they have sorted it, does it? Yes I have and it’s pretty black and white …It’s not owned by the club it’s owned by the council I could review next doors lighting but it’s not my remit,property and can’t order them to fix it and if I did it myself and something happened I’d be libel Basic stuff really |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 1, 2021 19:10:33 GMT
It’s owned by the council but is fenced off? Seems odd.
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Post by dave1 on Dec 1, 2021 19:43:04 GMT
I presume he HAS read it. Have you? It says the club are reviewing it. That does not mean they have sorted it, does it? Yes I have and it’s pretty black and white …It’s not owned by the club it’s owned by the council I could review next doors lighting but it’s not my remit,property and can’t order them to fix it and if I did it myself and something happened I’d be libel Basic stuff really Can you read? It doesn't say that the council own the land by the embankment,only by the underpass (or whatever language they use). It says that the club is reviewing the situation by the embankment. |
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Post by bingbang on Dec 1, 2021 19:55:48 GMT
Unless I am some sort of half wit, which I am not, it says the tunnel and path out of the ground towards Fenton are council, the ramp down from the buses and statue are theirs to be reviewed. How long does it take to review the fact it is pitch black after the game on that ramp.
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Post by bingbang on Dec 1, 2021 19:57:21 GMT
Pathetic that the club have not sorted the lighting on the ramp up to the Gordon Banks statue. It is a catastrophe waiting to happen. As I have stated it could be sorted in a couple of hours. Have you not read the minutes bb? I suggest you re read it and digest what they are saying. |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 1, 2021 20:17:18 GMT
Unless I am some sort of half wit, which I am not, it says the tunnel and path out of the ground towards Fenton are council, the ramp down from the buses and statue are theirs to be reviewed. How long does it take to review the fact it is pitch black after the game on that ramp. Has this been raised before do you know?? If so why aren't the council holding the club to account? If the club are reviewing it then they should agree to timescales and the council should hold them to account against them. A chocolate teapot springs to mind!!!! Might have to out myself forward next time! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 1, 2021 20:21:08 GMT
Read it now.
Clearly reads that the council own the land for the underpass and intimates that we own the land where the issue is.
Stoke-on-Trent isn’t a County Council either!
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Post by bingbang on Dec 1, 2021 20:24:58 GMT
Unless I am some sort of half wit, which I am not, it says the tunnel and path out of the ground towards Fenton are council, the ramp down from the buses and statue are theirs to be reviewed. How long does it take to review the fact it is pitch black after the game on that ramp. Has this been raised before do you know?? If so why aren't the council holding the club to account? If the club are reviewing it then they should agree to timescales and the council should hold them to account against them. A chocolate teapot springs to mind!!!! Might have to out myself forward next time! I e mailed Angela Smith saying the council achieved Jack s@@@ she replied saying the lighting situation was in hand. As I have said I could contact HSS hire tomorrow and have lights in place within days if not hours. Unless you have walked up there in the dark you cannot appreciate how dangerous it is. Obviously they will act when it is too late. |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 1, 2021 20:35:22 GMT
I walk up there with my 6 year old. Pitch black and that temporary fencing is a hazard, people always tripping over that.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 1, 2021 21:00:48 GMT
I walk up there with my 6 year old. Pitch black and that temporary fencing is a hazard, people always tripping over that. As bad as that bollard at the top which ive seen many folk crash into when there are large numbers of fans exiting the stadium. Surely that should be one of those collapsible posts that drop into the ground. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 1, 2021 21:31:33 GMT
Unless I am some sort of half wit, which I am not, it says the tunnel and path out of the ground towards Fenton are council, the ramp down from the buses and statue are theirs to be reviewed. How long does it take to review the fact it is pitch black after the game on that ramp. The statue is not on club land |
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 1, 2021 21:48:30 GMT
We might finally be getting some bus shelters then. That's one that's been long overdue. Now we just buses the last 2 home games the buses seem to get held up at the top of the round about for quite some time. |
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Post by bingbang on Dec 1, 2021 21:53:31 GMT
Unless I am some sort of half wit, which I am not, it says the tunnel and path out of the ground towards Fenton are council, the ramp down from the buses and statue are theirs to be reviewed. How long does it take to review the fact it is pitch black after the game on that ramp. The statue is not on club land Did I say it was? Don’t you read the posts before you respond ? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Dec 1, 2021 23:47:19 GMT
Scratching my head before writing, of course it’s easy to be questioning.
The content matter of the minutes does appear to reflect a “tea/biscuit” scenario. Full respect to the Council members, their time, their effort. BUT:
Is the match-day experience really top notch? Is 2nd best being accepted as some form of achievement?
Supporter/Vehicular access and egress, Parking, Catering, Sound System, Bus Shelters, Lighting etc. etc. How long have we been at the Stadium?
”we’ll investigate, we’ll look into it”…how many times?…….The minutes do not include any actions/by who/by when…. Tea & biscuits?
Am I being overly questioning in wanting SCFC to be viewed as being the pacesetters, setting the standards for others to follow?
Perhaps I expect too much of my club in my old age.
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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2021 7:26:34 GMT
The statue is not on club land Did I say it was? Don’t you read the posts before you respond ? No of course not... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 2, 2021 8:15:23 GMT
Did I say it was? Don’t you read the posts before you respond ? No of course not... But he didn’t so the response is a bit odd. As are the ones about the council owning the land when it doesn’t say that. He is right, if they gave a shit, they’d hire lights for each game. Anyone of us could get that done pretty easily. |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Dec 2, 2021 9:11:18 GMT
No mention of the death on the Heron Cross path - has this already been addressed?
That is the time, 45 minutes taken for first aid to reach the spot
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Post by Scouse on Dec 2, 2021 10:22:53 GMT
I can see both sides
Fans see everything solvable in an instant ..in the case of lighting ( pardon the pun ) with a flick of a switch , from the clubs view theres cost , safety , planning and fitting items into their own existing to do list … equally short term fixes may not be the most economical , or indeed planning process or safety wise the best solution ..indeed a temporary solution may make a more permanent solution harder or more costly to achieve in the future
Though presumably between Rob Killingworth ( Head of Safety operations ) Nick Robinson ( Head of Facilities) Richard Smith ( Stoke City Properties , surveyor ) they'd have or could access all the answers including answering the question of budget and timing ..given time
The minutes themselves aren’t the issue if the item hasn’t been assigned an owner and timescale during the meeting , if not they’re accurate ,rather its the scope of the meeting itself that’s at the centre of the issue ..items raised should be referenced have an owner and timing and progress reported upon each meeting ..otherwise tracking by the council and interested parties becomes problematical
issues raised requiring more than a petty cash type budget to resolve understandably need a considered approach , often at a departmental meeting ..so answers together with timelines will seldom be forthcoming initially ..which is why it’s even more important that the action point is referenced and reported back on ..preferably without waiting for a full council/ club meeting if the clubs decision is not to proceed .or allocated an unspecified completion date ( weak way of saying desirable but it’ll never be done )
Without that all that is happening is the item is being raised and heard ..but with little chance of progress and worthwhile questioning
The council may benefit from having its own simple , but independent website , separate from the page allocated on the official site for minutes ..
allowing for council news , campaigns , reporting of sub committee meetings , updates to issues raised with the club etc ..which may in help improve supporters engagement with the council ..which in turn may provide the council with more weight going into meetings with the club
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 2, 2021 11:13:16 GMT
I can see both sides The council may benefit from having its own simple , but independent website , separate from the page allocated on the official site for minutes .. allowing for council news , campaigns , reporting of sub committee meetings , updates to issues raised with the club etc ..which may in help improve supporters engagement with the council ..which in turn may provide the council with more weight going into meetings with the club I agree totally with your last point. A simple but independent website regularly updated would probably help the Council improve its public relations with the wider fan base. |
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Post by bingbang on Dec 2, 2021 11:33:01 GMT
I can see both sides Fans see everything solvable in an instant ..in the case of lighting ( pardon the pun ) with a flick of a switch , from the clubs view theres cost , safety , planning and fitting items into their own existing to do list … equally short term fixes may not be the most economical , or indeed planning process or safety wise the best solution ..indeed a temporary solution may make a more permanent solution harder or more costly to achieve in the future Though presumably between Rob Killingworth ( Head of Safety operations ) Nick Robinson ( Head of Facilities) Richard Smith ( Stoke City Properties , surveyor ) they'd have or could access all the answers including answering the question of budget and timing ..given time The minutes themselves aren’t the issue if the item hasn’t been assigned an owner and timescale during the meeting , if not they’re accurate ,rather its the scope of the meeting itself that’s at the centre of the issue ..items raised should be referenced have an owner and timing and progress reported upon each meeting ..otherwise tracking by the council and interested parties becomes problematical issues raised requiring more than a petty cash type budget to resolve understandably need a considered approach , often at a departmental meeting ..so answers together with timelines will seldom be forthcoming initially ..which is why it’s even more important that the action point is referenced and reported back on ..preferably without waiting for a full council/ club meeting if the clubs decision is not to proceed .or allocated an unspecified completion date ( weak way of saying desirable but it’ll never be done ) Without that all that is happening is the item is being raised and heard ..but with little chance of progress and worthwhile questioning The council may benefit from having its own simple , but independent website , separate from the page allocated on the official site for minutes .. allowing for council news , campaigns , reporting of sub committee meetings , updates to issues raised with the club etc ..which may in help improve supporters engagement with the council ..which in turn may provide the council with more weight going into meetings with the club Cost shouldn’t come into it where health and safety are involved. You can’t put a price on long term injury or death caused by someone else’s failings. It’s not that we are skint. |
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Post by femark on Dec 2, 2021 16:19:17 GMT
"Yeah we'll look into it  " on repeat... |
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