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Post by Gods on Oct 19, 2021 23:05:56 GMT
Any chance of interpretation🤔Ostigard and Doughty are ill Neither wre in the team before they were ill so I don’t think that’s valid abd doesn’t explain sawyers , surriddge and brown the last two costing £5m and contributing bugger all or less I too have the sneaking suspicion, which I won't share yet since it's still too soon to say for certain, that the only money we had to spend, the Doughty and Surridge money, we have pissed up the wall. But don't take it from me, the manager is not too keen to start either of them when fit.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 19, 2021 23:17:47 GMT
We're two games removed from our best performance of the season. Our best striker returned tonight. The season is not, and I cannot stress this enough, 'getting away from us'. It still massively early days. It was as ridiculous to get carried away by our start 2 weeks ago as it is to panic now. We’re a work in progress and there will be bumps along the way. Patience is required……
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Post by thicknthin on Oct 19, 2021 23:23:49 GMT
We're two games removed from our best performance of the season. Our best striker returned tonight. The season is not, and I cannot stress this enough, 'getting away from us'. It still massively early days. It was as ridiculous to get carried away by our start 2 weeks ago as it is to panic now. We’re a work in progress and there will be bumps along the way. Patience is required…… Patience is required. We are not known for it though, and by the ranting going on around me in block 22 some fans are on the edge already. It wasn’t great tonight, but when we try to play we could be a more supportive crowd. The amount of time I heard FFS get it forward make me think we never will be.
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Post by houstonsteve on Oct 19, 2021 23:29:22 GMT
Fingers crossed its nothing too serious. Remains our most important player while we are in with a top 6 finish.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 19, 2021 23:42:25 GMT
It would be nice if we could just have all of our best players fit at the same time, but we are more than good enough for top 6. We’ve had a tough run of games this last 3 and performed well enough overall, including a pretty brilliant one against WBA. We’ll be there or thereabouts but games against Bournemouth won’t define our season. We have to go and beat Millwall though really, that’s where we have to make it count. It is almost inevitable that one or two of our best players will be injured because we play too many games in quick succession. As long as we’re in the LC we’ll have three games in seven days virtually all season long. As much as I would like a good cup run, I won’t be too upset when we get knocked out of both cups so we can concentrate on making the playoffs.
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 20, 2021 3:39:30 GMT
We are just not very good following International Breaks, haven't been for years. Would appreciate someone getting some stats to tell me it's all in my head, I couldn't be arsed, I just except the sloppy shows that occur. It's one reason I detest International Breaks.
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 20, 2021 4:25:15 GMT
He should take Clucas & Allen with him, get them Xrayed to see if they have a football brain. Actually soft tissue doesn’t show up on standard X-ray. You would need to do a MRI or CT scan, depending on what exactly is being looked for P
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Post by upthefud on Oct 20, 2021 4:48:59 GMT
We're absolutely fine.
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Post by ct1 on Oct 20, 2021 5:06:49 GMT
Well, we have lost a huge amount of ground in the last 7 matches, the 10 point gap to Bournemouth we will never recover, but more alarmingly everyone from 12th upwards is queuing up to move through. We can either pretend it's not happening or confront it head on. We are simply finding our level as forecast , these games. Were always going to find us out , we play teams of our level next up but the attrition of these games will again take its toll . We were always a mid table team the worry tonight is out thought , out fought , out muscled and ultimately outplayed and made to look naive by Bournemouth , however management try to dress it up it was a very sobering night why Fletcher didn’t get a chance to mix it up god only knows , our recruitment is being exposed match after match , brown as ever missed after 30 seconds and was then Bournemouth’s third centre half , surridge looks completely lost , sawyers deemed not good enough , ostigard and doughty gone missing ,our transfer business is being systemically exposed by the sterner tests and we are back on track  to the predicted 55 to 60 point team loss of Powell is very unlucky but it can’t be allowed. To disguise the fact we weren’t anywhere near with him either it’s a very difficult juncture coming , better players likely to leave and a really poor recruitment record why would anyone expect current system to utilise the Souter money well most of the signings  can’t get past players who were already here or are seriously not good enough see brown , very trick water ahead you just love when we dont do well dont you
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 20, 2021 5:22:15 GMT
He will be out for a few games then back in for a few games... repeat that scenario for the rest of his career. He is a fantastic player at this level, but his fitness is always going to be an issue. He would have made it to the top of the game otherwise. A shame for him and us!! It was an impact injury and has nothing to do with fitness.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 20, 2021 8:10:15 GMT
We are simply finding our level as forecast , these games. Were always going to find us out , we play teams of our level next up but the attrition of these games will again take its toll . We were always a mid table team the worry tonight is out thought , out fought , out muscled and ultimately outplayed and made to look naive by Bournemouth , however management try to dress it up it was a very sobering night why Fletcher didn’t get a chance to mix it up god only knows , our recruitment is being exposed match after match , brown as ever missed after 30 seconds and was then Bournemouth’s third centre half , surridge looks completely lost , sawyers deemed not good enough , ostigard and doughty gone missing ,our transfer business is being systemically exposed by the sterner tests and we are back on track  to the predicted 55 to 60 point team loss of Powell is very unlucky but it can’t be allowed. To disguise the fact we weren’t anywhere near with him either it’s a very difficult juncture coming , better players likely to leave and a really poor recruitment record why would anyone expect current system to utilise the Souter money well most of the signings  can’t get past players who were already here or are seriously not good enough see brown , very trick water ahead you just love when we dont do well dont you You should be thankful that Tony Scholes didn't merit a paragraph of blame for last night
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 20, 2021 8:15:13 GMT
We are simply finding our level as forecast , these games. Were always going to find us out , we play teams of our level next up but the attrition of these games will again take its toll . We were always a mid table team the worry tonight is out thought , out fought , out muscled and ultimately outplayed and made to look naive by Bournemouth , however management try to dress it up it was a very sobering night why Fletcher didn’t get a chance to mix it up god only knows , our recruitment is being exposed match after match , brown as ever missed after 30 seconds and was then Bournemouth’s third centre half , surridge looks completely lost , sawyers deemed not good enough , ostigard and doughty gone missing ,our transfer business is being systemically exposed by the sterner tests and we are back on track to the predicted 55 to 60 point team loss of Powell is very unlucky but it can’t be allowed. To disguise the fact we weren’t anywhere near with him either it’s a very difficult juncture coming , better players likely to leave and a really poor recruitment record why would anyone expect current system to utilise the Souter money well most of the signings can’t get past players who were already here or are seriously not good enough see brown , very trick water ahead you just love when we dont do well dont Yes of course it’s my hobby travelling miles and miles for shit shows its great fun add a few false dawns . Wasted millions and poor judgement (Brown and Surridge i dont think Fletcher is pele either ) but he’s better than brown but then so is ena sharpies mixed in with ineptitude of S grand scale off the pitch and its just glorious you should try it Im sure it will catch on but by way I’d explanation I’m merely saying as i said in August i didn’t see sellimg our best Asset and paying milliions for others to take shit ones and giving the proceeds to a managememt team with a ropey recruitment record had necessarily produced anything like a top 6 team and as things stand I think that’s going to be correct But ultimately the manager has to find a formula and the current one has come totally unstuck at Fulham , Derby . Sheffield and now hime to Bournemouth complete rethink required otherwise it’s 55 to 60 points
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 20, 2021 8:18:59 GMT
Complete tactical , selection and approach resolution think required so it’s down to the manager , ironically Powell might force that but one thinks for sure the answer right now isn’t brown or clucas 442 foe me is worth a go certainly away then brown might get a game in the right in front of smith where his running power might be a bit if use as opposed to his utter cluelessness with the ball and blind panic approaching square boxes
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Post by sheds1862 on Oct 20, 2021 8:43:24 GMT
We're two games removed from our best performance of the season. Our best striker returned tonight. The season is not, and I cannot stress this enough, 'getting away from us'. It still massively early days. It was as ridiculous to get carried away by our start 2 weeks ago as it is to panic now. We’re a work in progress and there will be bumps along the way. Patience is required…… I agree . Guess a message board isn't the best place for balance. There were threads virtually proclaiming us as promoted a couple of weeks ago. Now it's the polar opposite. No time for panic as you say. Despite the great performance against WBA we are miles away from a Fulham or Bournemouth. Need something Saturday to calm the waters .
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Post by Gods on Oct 20, 2021 9:03:06 GMT
Well, we have lost a huge amount of ground in the last 7 matches, the 10 point gap to Bournemouth we will never recover, but more alarmingly everyone from 12th upwards is queuing up to move through. We can either pretend it's not happening or confront it head on. We are simply finding our level as forecast , these games. Were always going to find us out , we play teams of our level next up but the attrition of these games will again take its toll . We were always a mid table team the worry tonight is out thought , out fought , out muscled and ultimately outplayed and made to look naive by Bournemouth , however management try to dress it up it was a very sobering night why Fletcher didn’t get a chance to mix it up god only knows , our recruitment is being exposed match after match , brown as ever missed after 30 seconds and was then Bournemouth’s third centre half , surridge looks completely lost , sawyers deemed not good enough , ostigard and doughty gone missing ,our transfer business is being systemically exposed by the sterner tests and we are back on track  to the predicted 55 to 60 point team loss of Powell is very unlucky but it can’t be allowed. To disguise the fact we weren’t anywhere near with him either it’s a very difficult juncture coming , better players likely to leave and a really poor recruitment record why would anyone expect current system to utilise the Souter money well most of the signings  can’t get past players who were already here or are seriously not good enough see brown , very trick water ahead I do agree, we have made and continue to make a total mess of the recruitment. Each new player the manager tries and then gives up on. Law of averages you'd think we'd have pulled one rabbit out of a hat by now.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 20, 2021 9:49:43 GMT
We are simply finding our level as forecast , these games. Were always going to find us out , we play teams of our level next up but the attrition of these games will again take its toll . We were always a mid table team the worry tonight is out thought , out fought , out muscled and ultimately outplayed and made to look naive by Bournemouth , however management try to dress it up it was a very sobering night why Fletcher didn’t get a chance to mix it up god only knows , our recruitment is being exposed match after match , brown as ever missed after 30 seconds and was then Bournemouth’s third centre half , surridge looks completely lost , sawyers deemed not good enough , ostigard and doughty gone missing ,our transfer business is being systemically exposed by the sterner tests and we are back on track to the predicted 55 to 60 point team loss of Powell is very unlucky but it can’t be allowed. To disguise the fact we weren’t anywhere near with him either it’s a very difficult juncture coming , better players likely to leave and a really poor recruitment record why would anyone expect current system to utilise the Souter money well most of the signings can’t get past players who were already here or are seriously not good enough see brown , very trick water ahead I do agree, we have made and continue to make a total mess of the recruitment. Each new player the manager tries and then gives up on. Law of averages you'd think we'd have pulled one rabbit out of a hat by now. Not sure how you can judge that we've made a mess of recruitment so far 15 games into a new season. Managers up and down the country are vying to figure out their best Xi/best formation and things will settle down. This is the first time in a while Premier League included where we've had a relatively clear plan in what we are trying to achieve. To call the likes of Doughty, Ostigard, Surridge and Sawyers failures already as BB did is just nonsensical........
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 20, 2021 9:51:16 GMT
Complete tactical , selection and approach resolution think required so it’s down to the manager , ironically Powell might force that but one thinks for sure the answer right now isn’t brown or clucas 442 foe me is worth a go certainly away then brown might get a game in the right in front of smith where his running power might be a bit if use as opposed to his utter cluelessness with the ball and blind panic approaching square boxes 4-4-2 ok I'll humour you who's playing wide right Tom Ince? Who's playing left back Josh Tymon? Let's see your starting XI then.......
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Post by franklin on Oct 20, 2021 10:15:48 GMT
It still massively early days. It was as ridiculous to get carried away by our start 2 weeks ago as it is to panic now. We’re a work in progress and there will be bumps along the way. Patience is required…… Patience is required. We are not known for it though, and by the ranting going on around me in block 22 some fans are on the edge already. It wasn’t great tonight, but when we try to play we could be a more supportive crowd. The amount of time I heard FFS get it forward make me think we never will be. Same in 30 I think its the frustration at the perceived lack of "going for it" leaving Brown on his own for half of the match was ridiculous at home.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 20, 2021 12:38:58 GMT
Complete tactical , selection and approach resolution think required so it’s down to the manager , ironically Powell might force that but one thinks for sure the answer right now isn’t brown or clucas 442 foe me is worth a go certainly away then brown might get a game in the right in front of smith where his running power might be a bit if use as opposed to his utter cluelessness with the ball and blind panic approaching square boxes 4-4-2 ok I'll humour you who's playing wide right Tom Ince? Who's playing left back Josh Tymon? Let's see your starting XI then....... OK let's just play the same players in the same formation and expect a different answer than Fulham Derby and Sheffield
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Post by JimmyisGod on Oct 20, 2021 13:31:02 GMT
Oooops, sorry wrong thread
Clicked on looking for an update on Powell’s injury
Back to the hundreds of other threads on performance, recruitment, the manager etc
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Post by Glory Hunter on Oct 20, 2021 13:50:25 GMT
Complete tactical , selection and approach resolution think required so it’s down to the manager , ironically Powell might force that but one thinks for sure the answer right now isn’t brown or clucas 442 foe me is worth a go certainly away then brown might get a game in the right in front of smith where his running power might be a bit if use as opposed to his utter cluelessness with the ball and blind panic approaching square boxes Very unfair on Brown. His goal at Sheff Utd (4 days ago) was excellent in precisely the areas you critisise him. I think he is improving and has a role to play. I get the tactical comments though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 20, 2021 13:53:08 GMT
What actually happened with Powell?
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Post by sd22 on Oct 20, 2021 13:57:33 GMT
What actually happened with Powell? Won the ball with a tasty big challenge close to the attacking third. Proceeded to stay slumped, thought a clash of knees myself. Sentinel says Bournemouth’s player just caught him in the Achilles with his studs. Haven’t seen any conclusive evidence on either side!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 20, 2021 14:09:41 GMT
4-4-2 ok I'll humour you who's playing wide right Tom Ince? Who's playing left back Josh Tymon? Let's see your starting XI then....... OK let's just play the same players in the same formation and expect a different answer than Fulham Derby and Sheffield Just your starting XI in a 4-4-2 is all I need. It's easy to snipe, put up or shut up.........
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 20, 2021 14:15:11 GMT
What actually happened with Powell? Won the ball with a tasty big challenge close to the attacking third. Proceeded to stay slumped, thought a clash of knees myself. Sentinel says Bournemouth’s player just caught him in the Achilles with his studs. Haven’t seen any conclusive evidence on either side! Yeah it just looked like the usual with him and he'd be able to get up and crack on. Massive shame if he is out for a while. But we have the players to cover.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Oct 20, 2021 14:33:13 GMT
I don't think Powell's absence made a great deal of difference last night, their midfield was swamping over us all night. Its Clucas & Allen that we need to replace with players that have a bit more Steel in their bellies - oh and a striker that knows where the goal is apart from Fletcher, Sturridge and Campbell
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Post by milky on Oct 20, 2021 18:01:39 GMT
4-4-2 ok I'll humour you who's playing wide right Tom Ince? Who's playing left back Josh Tymon? Let's see your starting XI then....... OK let's just play the same players in the same formation and expect a different answer than Fulham Derby and Sheffield Bit selective there Benj .. How about mentioning the 6 games we have won with that formation?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 20, 2021 18:01:51 GMT
OK let's just play the same players in the same formation and expect a different answer than Fulham Derby and Sheffield Just your starting XI in a 4-4-2 is all I need. It's easy to snipe, put up or shut up......... Bursik Smith Souttar Ostigard Wilmot ( until fox is back ) Brown sawyers Thomson Tymon Fletcher Surridge
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Post by milky on Oct 20, 2021 18:06:34 GMT
Just your starting XI in a 4-4-2 is all I need. It's easy to snipe, put up or shut up.........      Bursik Smith Souttar Ostigard Wilmot ( until fox is back ) Brown sawyers Thomson  Tymon    Fletcher Surridge  I like that line up and formation Benj....if it was 1985. We'd get absolutely rinsed in midfield.
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 20, 2021 18:24:23 GMT
Just your starting XI in a 4-4-2 is all I need. It's easy to snipe, put up or shut up.........      Bursik Smith Souttar Ostigard Wilmot ( until fox is back ) Brown sawyers Thomson  Tymon    Fletcher Surridge  😀
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