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Post by bloodtypered on Oct 8, 2021 12:45:55 GMT
England Game As long as the standard is high quality, no problem  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2021 12:52:43 GMT
I don’t get the fuss.
To be a good ref you need to know the rules and keep up with play.
There’s nothing bar misconceptions that should stop it from happening more often.
And let’s be honest, they can’t be any worse than the blokes that currently do it.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 8, 2021 13:18:23 GMT
The few female refs I’ve seen have all been pretty decent and they seem to get more respect from the players which can only be a good thing.
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Post by Veritas on Oct 8, 2021 13:46:54 GMT
Has a woman reffed a Premier League game yet?
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 8, 2021 15:49:16 GMT
Give it a decade and it won't be worth mentioning, as it should be.
The little snowflakes who get upset by a woman doing a job will take every chance for a potshot but they'll move onto something else eventually.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 8, 2021 17:24:34 GMT
Looks like she's left the cooker on at the stadium 😗
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 8, 2021 17:25:22 GMT
Looks like she's left the cooker on at the stadium 😗 Those iron things can be dangerous in the wrong hands👀 |
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Post by 3putts on Oct 8, 2021 18:29:34 GMT
If they have proved that they are good enough to officiate at international level then fine,but let’s be honest this is all about pc and promoting women in the game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2021 18:32:00 GMT
If they have proved that they are good enough to officiate at international level then fine,but let’s be honest this is all about pc and promoting women in the game. Why is it? And what’s wrong with promoting that anyway? There’s absolutely no obstacle bar outdated attitudes for females officiating men’s football. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 8, 2021 18:50:12 GMT
If they have proved that they are good enough to officiate at international level then fine,but let’s be honest this is all about pc and promoting women in the game. Why is it? And what’s wrong with promoting that anyway? There’s absolutely no obstacle bar outdated attitudes for females officiating men’s football. It’s one of those things where a lady should be able to do as well as a man and from what I’ve seen so far they’re probably an improvement. It’s when it comes to strength and pace where the ladies game falls behind a bit. That’s understandable. So in a nutshell it’ll never be as entertaining as watching a men’s game but good luck to em trying to find a niche in the market. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2021 18:58:40 GMT
Why is it? And what’s wrong with promoting that anyway? There’s absolutely no obstacle bar outdated attitudes for females officiating men’s football. It’s one of those things where a lady should be able to do as well as a man and from what I’ve seen so far they’re probably an improvement. It’s when it comes to strength and pace where the ladies game falls behind a bit. That’s understandable. So in a nutshell it’ll never be as entertaining as watching a men’s game but good luck to em trying to find a niche in the market. Women's football has shit all to do with this though? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 8, 2021 19:17:28 GMT
It’s one of those things where a lady should be able to do as well as a man and from what I’ve seen so far they’re probably an improvement. It’s when it comes to strength and pace where the ladies game falls behind a bit. That’s understandable. So in a nutshell it’ll never be as entertaining as watching a men’s game but good luck to em trying to find a niche in the market. Women's football has shit all to do with this though? Oh I know I was just trying to explain the difference in my opinion. Basically, although refs run a lot and that the physicality is on a level where both sexes are equal. When it comes to actually playing the game is where the difference becomes more stark. Bit like tennis I guess, the ladies want equal pay and may have it, I’m not sure, but they ain’t playing 5 set matches so….. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Oct 8, 2021 23:18:34 GMT
If they have proved that they are good enough to officiate at international level then fine,but let’s be honest this is all about pc and promoting women in the game. There’s always one isn’t there. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 23:24:56 GMT
I wouldn't feel comfortable singing "who's the bastard in the black" to a lady, or "the referee's a wanker" come to think of it either.
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Post by britvic72 on Oct 9, 2021 6:03:12 GMT
Let’s face it the best liner I’ve seen is Sian Massey. I don’t ever remember seeing her get a decision wrong.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 9, 2021 6:35:39 GMT
I wouldn't feel comfortable singing "who's the bastard in the black" to a lady, or "the referee's a wanker" come to think of it either. That's your problem you sexist bastard  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 6:52:32 GMT
Only a story because it’s a novelty. I don’t think anyone bats an eyelid at female linesmen (lines people? 😂) anymore, but when Massey first started officiating high profile games it was talked about. The same with female MOTD commentators. It’s just one of those things that very quickly becomes the new normal. That’s not to say that all modern things smoothly bridge that transition from novelty to normal (or even deserve to, thinking specifically about the most deviant and perverted aspects of modern politics) but refereeing is clearly something where the best people should be in the jobs regardless of gender.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 9, 2021 7:22:04 GMT
Women's football has shit all to do with this though? Oh I know I was just trying to explain the difference in my opinion. Basically, although refs run a lot and that the physicality is on a level where both sexes are equal. When it comes to actually playing the game is where the difference becomes more stark. Bit like tennis I guess, the ladies want equal pay and may have it, I’m not sure, but they ain’t playing 5 set matches so….. To be fair men only play 5 set matches in 4 Grand Slams a year and in the Davis Cup. All the other tournaments on the tour they play 3 sets just like the women. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 9, 2021 7:27:19 GMT
Only a story because it’s a novelty. I don’t think anyone bats an eyelid at female linesmen (lines people? 😂) anymore, but when Massey first started officiating high profile games it was talked about. The same with female MOTD commentators. It’s just one of those things that very quickly becomes the new normal. That’s not to say that all modern things smoothly bridge that transition from novelty to normal (or even deserve to, thinking specifically about the most deviant and perverted aspects of modern politics) but refereeing is clearly something where the best people should be in the jobs regardless of gender. I still think Sian Massey is one of the best liners we had at Stoke in the Premier League. A bloke used to sit near me in block 23 and he spent most of the games she officiated in moaning about her inability to judge offsides or whose throw in it was. Everyone else thought she was mostly spot on. After we had watched her (usually excellent) performance on MOTD he used to get ribbed at the next home match but he was just as bad next time she ran the line. I think moaning about Sian Massey was one of his main hobbies! |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 9, 2021 7:46:28 GMT
Oh I know I was just trying to explain the difference in my opinion. Basically, although refs run a lot and that the physicality is on a level where both sexes are equal. When it comes to actually playing the game is where the difference becomes more stark. Bit like tennis I guess, the ladies want equal pay and may have it, I’m not sure, but they ain’t playing 5 set matches so….. To be fair men only play 5 set matches in 4 Grand Slams a year and in the Davis Cup. All the other tournaments on the tour they play 3 sets just like the women. Why is that? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 9, 2021 7:58:34 GMT
To be fair men only play 5 set matches in 4 Grand Slams a year and in the Davis Cup. All the other tournaments on the tour they play 3 sets just like the women. Why is that? I don't know. Possibly the 5 set matches for men were promoted by the grand slam organisers to make them seem a bit more "special." I think a lot of a smaller tournaments would find it difficult to fit in 5 set matches especially if bad weather affected the tournaments. The grand slams have lights and some covered courts which enable a tournament to cope with bad weather better. |
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Post by a on Oct 9, 2021 8:54:59 GMT
I don’t get the fuss. To be a good ref you need to know the rules and keep up with play. There’s nothing bar misconceptions that should stop it from happening more often. And let’s be honest, they can’t be any worse than the blokes that currently do it. Why can’t they be any worse? They can. Not sure that they will be but it’s possible. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 9, 2021 9:25:38 GMT
Give it a decade and it won't be worth mentioning, as it should be. The little snowflakes who get upset by a woman doing a job will take every chance for a potshot but they'll move onto something else eventually. Yes, quite. Just like no-one really bats an eyelid at female pundits, commentators and presenters anymore, apart from a few dinosaurs who'll die off soon enough. |
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Post by thevoid on Oct 9, 2021 10:04:57 GMT
Only a story because it’s a novelty. I don’t think anyone bats an eyelid at female linesmen (lines people? 😂) anymore, but when Massey first started officiating high profile games it was talked about. The same with female MOTD commentators. It’s just one of those things that very quickly becomes the new normal. That’s not to say that all modern things smoothly bridge that transition from novelty to normal (or even deserve to, thinking specifically about the most deviant and perverted aspects of modern politics) but refereeing is clearly something where the best people should be in the jobs regardless of gender. I still think Sean Massey is one of the best liners we had at Stoke in the Premier League. A bloke used to sit near me in block 23 and he spent most of the games she officiated in moaning about her inability to judge offsides or whose throw in it was. Everyone else thought she was mostly spot on. After we had watched her (usually excellent) performance on MOTD he used to get ribbed at the next home match but he was just as bad next time she ran the line. I think moaning about Sean Massey was one of his main hobbies! Sean Massey? Has Sian transitioned? 😉 |
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Post by medwaypotter on Oct 9, 2021 10:38:13 GMT
The few female refs I’ve seen have all been pretty decent and they seem to get more respect from the players which can only be a good thing. Unless it's Kevin McNaughton. |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 9, 2021 10:40:35 GMT
I wouldn't feel comfortable singing "who's the bastard in the black" to a lady, or "the referee's a wanker" come to think of it either. Best start working on it then. Equality comes in many forms |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 9, 2021 10:44:02 GMT
Who cares what sex a ref is, or what gender identification they chose either for that matter, as long as the individual is of the necessary standard to do the job required of them?
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 9, 2021 12:04:29 GMT
Who cares what sex a ref is, Richard Keys |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 9, 2021 12:19:07 GMT
Who cares what sex a ref is, Richard Keys That's going back a decade, I wonder if he still holds his small minded opinion now? For context the subtext of my post was that only a dinosaur would care.  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 9, 2021 12:22:31 GMT
That's going back a decade, I wonder if he still holds his small minded opinion now? For context the subtext of my post was that only a dinosaur would care. My pet Brontosaurus says “am I bovvered?” |
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