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Post by hyaduck on Oct 17, 2021 11:04:21 GMT
His performance yesterday certainly lowered his value, some say he’s worth 50m, not after yesterday. You really are a tool. Come on do you actually think he’s worth 50m? He got turned inside out yesterday and also a couple of times when he played for Australia against some dodgy outfit. I like him but if someone offered 20m we’d be mad not take it.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 17, 2021 11:32:13 GMT
Come on do you actually think he’s worth 50m? He got turned inside out yesterday and also a couple of times when he played for Australia against some dodgy outfit. I like him but if someone offered 20m we’d be mad not take it. When did I ever say he was? He is absolute quality and is going to get better if you can't see that you are a bigger bellend than I thought you were. You can't wait to stick the boot in to anything Stoke can you? It's pathetic and I feel quite sorry for you that you can't see the good in anything we are doing as a club.
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Post by nonameface on Oct 17, 2021 11:41:13 GMT
Had one of his poorer games yesterday but still easily the best of the three.
His passing was limited by how Sheffield United pinned us in our half with Powell deeper than we'd have liked and Brown limited to controlling the ball with his back to goal and not running onto a ball down the channel.
He needed to be helped by Powell getting closer to Brown and generally the whole team pushing up 5.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 17, 2021 12:16:11 GMT
Lost his footing a few times which seemed to get him into bother. Other players were the same so God knows what they had on their feet yesterday.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 17, 2021 12:44:14 GMT
Lost his footing a few times which seemed to get him into bother. Other players were the same so God knows what they had on their feet yesterday. I noticed that too, not only Souttar, but also Wilmot and Vrancic struggled with their footing. Despite having one of his worse games this season I think he still was above average. My son and I were still impressed by Souttar's and Wilmot's skills on the ball. They both are very good modern defenders as we see it.
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Post by bingbang on Oct 23, 2021 20:30:26 GMT
As good as he is, just watched the highlights and thought he was at fault for both goals. A good defender throws his body in to stop the cross ala Jamie carragher
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 23, 2021 20:52:30 GMT
Saved an almost certain goal with an incredible tackle.
He can’t plug a sieve
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Post by bingbang on Oct 23, 2021 21:29:22 GMT
Just watched again neither crosses should reach their target, crosses should be stopped at source. As I say as much as I think he is quality he has to take the blame for failing to prevent the crosses
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Post by bucknall67 on Oct 23, 2021 21:59:37 GMT
Plus when their lad ran through him to pull that shot wide.
As fast as a turning super tanker.
He's good but some fans on here need to calm down a bit.
It's a bit like when we had Sobhi.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 23, 2021 22:16:30 GMT
Fell asleep for their first, absolutely.
A great prospect and he’s been our most solid played this season but he’s still learning his trade……
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 23, 2021 22:17:24 GMT
Plus when their lad ran through him to pull that shot wide. As fast as a turning super tanker. He's good but some fans on here need to calm down a bit. It's a bit like when we had Sobhi. It’s nothing like when we had Sobhi. Sobhi was clearly not very good……
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Post by bucknall67 on Oct 23, 2021 22:26:00 GMT
Plus when their lad ran through him to pull that shot wide. As fast as a turning super tanker. He's good but some fans on here need to calm down a bit. It's a bit like when we had Sobhi. It’s nothing like when we had Sobhi. Sobhi was clearly not very good…… That is not was said on here. A lot of posters reckoned he would rip up the PL.
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Post by bingbang on Oct 24, 2021 5:06:12 GMT
As much as defenders like to stay on their feet these days, a good old fashioned slide tackle cuts both those crosses out. Needs a few sessions with Ryan.
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 24, 2021 6:35:35 GMT
His valuation has dropped to £15
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 24, 2021 8:07:43 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 24, 2021 8:26:33 GMT
Nixon...
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Post by boweryboy on Oct 24, 2021 8:27:35 GMT
Why is O'Neill persiverering with this back three,when they are as slow as can be, teams with any pace cut through us like a knife through butter, yes they are not helped by what's Infront of them,yet again that's O'Neill's fault,he can't get that right either,you can't have a midfield full of weak tippy tappy players,why did he leave out Thomson again, the only one with some bite in the middle, making Allen captain was another mistake,he has been poor for awhile, but O'Neill is being too loyal to him,and will not drop him unless it dawn's on him his job is on the line if he doesn't !!!
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 24, 2021 8:38:37 GMT
If we don't go up, which looks unlikely right now, he will be gone in the summer. £20-25M and he will be gone, we all know that. Still we seem to produce good central defenders and both Forrester and Taylor might step up to take this level. We have also showed some interest in Harry's brother according to the newspapers. This is how football works!
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Post by questionable on Oct 24, 2021 10:12:01 GMT
If I was him I’d be getting my agent working his socks off to get me a move as his reputation will plummet playing along side this shower.
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Post by liathroid on Oct 26, 2021 21:06:28 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 26, 2021 21:52:33 GMT
The trouble of course is we are completely incapable of reinvesting the proceeds in anything likely to resemble a top six team see Brown , Fletcher , surridge , wilmot, last seasons january loans , etc etc etc effectively this management is selling the best assets it inherited ( having improved them granted ) and replacing them with more dross it’s a real concern fir the future I can’t see any of our signings increasing in value so essentially we are asset stripping the squad and using a proven flawed process to try and replace them long term thats a recipe for long term continued decline and ultimately disaster .
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Post by ashleyscfc on Oct 26, 2021 21:57:42 GMT
We need to be planning for him going now, same for Campbell.
We should of learnt from the Arnautovic, Nzonzi disasters of the past.
We were look Souttar come good once Shawcross left
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2021 22:00:44 GMT
24 million?
Sell sell sell
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Post by onefatcopper on Oct 27, 2021 0:45:14 GMT
If I was him I’d be getting my agent working his socks off to get me a move as his reputation will plummet playing along side this shower. Agree with the first part, but Harry get out of Dodge at your first opportunity, you don’t need or deserve the first round of two faced bile that’s coming your way ! Because it will, you’ll probably get away with one game changing mistake because you have got that one on credit for all the great games that you have played, but the second mistake and god help you, the true side of Stoke City supporters will be seen in all it’s vindictive glory.
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Post by Bagwash on Oct 27, 2021 1:46:23 GMT
The trouble of course is we are completely incapable of reinvesting the proceeds in anything likely to resemble a top six team see Brown , Fletcher , surridge , wilmot, last seasons january loans , etc etc etc effectively this management is selling the best assets it inherited ( having improved them granted ) and replacing them with more dross it’s a real concern fir the future I can’t see any of our signings increasing in value so essentially we are asset stripping the squad and using a proven flawed process to try and replace them long term thats a recipe for long term continued decline and ultimately disaster . 'long term continued decline'? Even with recent results wouldn't you agree that this season has been an improvement?
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Post by sportsman on Oct 27, 2021 5:38:15 GMT
Who's getting the credit for signing him in the first place?
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Post by bertiestan on Oct 27, 2021 6:03:19 GMT
If true it's around 40 mil for two academy products...and we have two capable defenders to make the grade with Forrester and Taylor, this was always going to happen with the type of academy we've got and being a championship club...our pull as a prem club isn't there anymore and it was obvious how good Souttar is that clubs like Everton n villa are keen...Collins has been starting for Burnley and I thinks it's great to see and I also think Everton would be good for Souttar, ideally we could keep him til the end of the season.
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Post by potter1989 on Oct 27, 2021 6:24:51 GMT
Lets hope for a bidding war, or a player swap as part of the deal?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 27, 2021 7:33:42 GMT
Why is O'Neill persiverering with this back three,when they are as slow as can be, teams with any pace cut through us like a knife through butter, yes they are not helped by what's Infront of them,yet again that's O'Neill's fault,he can't get that right either,you can't have a midfield full of weak tippy tappy players,why did he leave out Thomson again, the only one with some bite in the middle, making Allen captain was another mistake,he has been poor for awhile, but O'Neill is being too loyal to him,and will not drop him unless it dawn's on him his job is on the line if he doesn't !!! He fundamentally doesn’t seem to understand the physicality required in this league you’ve either got to be super fit and keep the ball moving see bournemouth and Fulham or be able to rough it in the chaos to use Rowetts expression , it’s no surprise boro are hitting the top six now it’s championship understanding snd know how warnock , Parker , silva , the wba guy have all made the play offs or promotion before It’s a glaring omission in our management cv and was on day 1
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Post by femark on Oct 27, 2021 7:38:18 GMT
24 million? Sell sell sell We’d have to sell at that price surely?
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