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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 21, 2021 20:43:36 GMT
Has to start Saturday, big call for the manager but what else can he do. Bursik is a great younger keeper but not the best start to the season. Davies’ place to lose now for me
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Post by tejstokie on Sept 21, 2021 20:44:47 GMT
Second this. Bursik can come real good, no doubt but Davies is in the zone.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Sept 21, 2021 20:45:18 GMT
Sounds like he should have played his way into the team.
Being dropped will let us find out how much Character Bursik has.
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Post by right on Sept 21, 2021 20:45:21 GMT
I'm okay with that
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 21, 2021 20:48:40 GMT
It’s a difficult one because I think it’d be harsh on bursik but you’d think Davis would be pissed off if he didn’t start on Saturday.
For me Davis starts he was brilliant tonight.
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 21, 2021 20:48:48 GMT
has to happen
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Post by Jimm on Sept 21, 2021 20:49:36 GMT
Not because of tonight but he really is too good to be sat on the bench as a second choice. He's hardly let us down when he's played.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Sept 21, 2021 20:52:30 GMT
Quite frankly, Davies is the better, more solid keeper. Had he played last weekend I don't think we'd have lost in my opinion. Doesn't mean Bursik is dreadful but you have to play your best players and in my opinion Davies is our best goalkeeper. Points lost hoping Bursik eventually comes good could cost us a play off place come the end of the season.
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2021 20:57:50 GMT
Quite frankly, Davies is the better, more solid keeper. Had he played last weekend I don't think we'd have lost in my opinion. Doesn't mean Bursik is dreadful but you have to play your best players and in my opinion Davies is our best goalkeeper. Points lost hoping Bursik eventually comes good could cost us a play off place come the end of the season. That's OTT Bursik is a bloody good keeper right now
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 21, 2021 20:58:32 GMT
No, you stick with Bursik and don't drop him after one mistake. All keepers make plenty of mistakes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2021 21:03:22 GMT
Have to stick with Bursik. And I think he will.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 21:03:57 GMT
No, you stick with Bursik and don't drop him after one mistake. All keepers make plenty of mistakes. I agree. If Bursik makes a few howlers versus Hull, then it’s time to consider it, but as much as I like Davies, you can’t drop Bursik after one very poor game. He’s been pretty decent on the whole this season.
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2021 21:04:03 GMT
No, you stick with Bursik and don't drop him after one mistake. All keepers make plenty of mistakes. They do Two big mistakes at Derby though, second goal and the one that ended up with astonishing miss Appreciate Wilmot was involved too but Bursik was badly at fault for both Factor in Davies being a very good keeper and playing a blinder tonight and it's a strong case Bursik is a strong character he won't crumble by being out of the side However if he plays Joe then no problem up to him to put the errors behind him which he's more than capable of.
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Post by Fred Merger on Sept 21, 2021 21:05:01 GMT
Bursik was in my opinion at fault for the goal against Huddersfield the week before as well as the calamity second against Derby. Davies will feel very aggrieved if he doesn't keep the gloves against Hull and rightly so. It will do Bursik good to sit out a couple of games.
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 21, 2021 21:06:33 GMT
No, you stick with Bursik and don't drop him after one mistake. All keepers make plenty of mistakes. I agree. If Bursik makes a few howlers versus Hull, then it’s time to consider it, but as much as I like Davies, you can’t drop Bursik after one very poor game. He’s been pretty decent on the whole this season. How many top draw saves has Bursik made this season? Once again to reiterate he’s a fantastic young keeper but we can’t afford any howlers against Hull as it’s a game we need to win. Davies is a top keeper and a big presence in that goal. O'Neil should reward him with another start
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Post by Jimm on Sept 21, 2021 21:06:57 GMT
No, you stick with Bursik and don't drop him after one mistake. All keepers make plenty of mistakes. He made two serious mistakes against Derby, one led to their second goal. Davies comes in and by the sounds of it plays a blinder, how does he not start on the weekend after that? Doesn't send a good message out to the players, that if you come in for a game and really perform, but then you're dropped back to the bench the following game? It wont do the team or Bursik no harm to be dropped. It should keep Joe on his toes and more focused
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2021 21:07:02 GMT
Bursik was in my opinion at fault for the goal against Huddersfield the week before as well as the calamity second against Derby. Davies will feel very aggrieved if he doesn't keep the gloves against Hull and rightly so. It will do Bursik good to sit out a couple of games. Can't agree with that (re Huddersfield goal) Stoke were asleep apart from Bursik who made a smart save initially
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Post by sportsman on Sept 21, 2021 21:08:49 GMT
Bursik was in my opinion at fault for the goal against Huddersfield the week before as well as the calamity second against Derby. Davies will feel very aggrieved if he doesn't keep the gloves against Hull and rightly so. It will do Bursik good to sit out a couple of games. Can't agree with that (re Huddersfield goal) Stoke were asleep apart from Bursik who made a smart save initially I hate the saving with the feet nonsense though. He did it twice in that game, both coming straight back in the mix. For me you get down and gather it in your hands. The modern goalkeeper for you.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 21, 2021 21:09:23 GMT
I really like Davies, think he’s a really good ‘keeper. But I think we have to persevere with Bursik because he has the potential to be brilliant. Be harsh to drop him after one dodgy game, but we are lucky to have such good options.
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Post by kerouac on Sept 21, 2021 21:10:08 GMT
Personally I’ve always thought he was the better keeper,more commanding and seems more confident and positive….had an absolute blinder tonight.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 21, 2021 21:10:41 GMT
Bursik was in my opinion at fault for the goal against Huddersfield the week before as well as the calamity second against Derby. Davies will feel very aggrieved if he doesn't keep the gloves against Hull and rightly so. It will do Bursik good to sit out a couple of games. Can't agree with that (re Huddersfield goal) Stoke were asleep apart from Bursik who made a smart save initially If he goes with his hands he doesn’t get it. I don’t get the criticism of going with his feet, it was a quick reaction.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2021 21:13:35 GMT
I agree. If Bursik makes a few howlers versus Hull, then it’s time to consider it, but as much as I like Davies, you can’t drop Bursik after one very poor game. He’s been pretty decent on the whole this season. How many top draw saves has Bursik made this season? Once again to reiterate he’s a fantastic young keeper but we can’t afford any howlers against Hull as it’s a game we need to win. Davies is a top keeper and a big presence in that goal. O'Neil should reward him with another start He’s not really had many to make. He’s had one bad game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2021 21:13:58 GMT
Can't agree with that (re Huddersfield goal) Stoke were asleep apart from Bursik who made a smart save initially If he goes with his hands he doesn’t get it. I don’t get the criticism of going with his feet, it was a quick reaction. He had to go with his feet.
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2021 21:15:20 GMT
How many top draw saves has Bursik made this season? Once again to reiterate he’s a fantastic young keeper but we can’t afford any howlers against Hull as it’s a game we need to win. Davies is a top keeper and a big presence in that goal. O'Neil should reward him with another start He’s not really had many to make. He’s had one bad game. I agree However Davies playing like that will have given the manager something to think about
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 21:16:41 GMT
Bursik was in my opinion at fault for the goal against Huddersfield the week before as well as the calamity second against Derby. Davies will feel very aggrieved if he doesn't keep the gloves against Hull and rightly so. It will do Bursik good to sit out a couple of games. i agree. He's a decent young keeper and his time will come but play your best team and that includes Davies. He's a great keeper
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Post by a on Sept 21, 2021 21:17:27 GMT
No, you stick with Bursik and don't drop him after one mistake. All keepers make plenty of mistakes. Committed a pen too but not done too much wrong. Maybe he wants to see who his number 1 is? Maybe he wants competition in that position.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 21, 2021 21:18:15 GMT
For me Davies is the better keeper but Bursik won’t be dropped after a couple of questionable performances, rightly or wrongly.
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Post by ethers26 on Sept 21, 2021 21:19:50 GMT
Play Davies because he's better
Or play Bursik because he's young
🤷🏻♂️
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2021 21:21:00 GMT
He’s not really had many to make. He’s had one bad game. I agree However Davies playing like that will have given the manager something to think about Oh for sure it will. I don't think Bursik has had a game where he's been needed as much as he was tonight to show that. He's shown good concentration on the whole behind a defence who have protected him well. Derby was definitely an abberration and that second goal is the complete opposite of it. Also, that performance tonight is a kick up the arse too, you don't need to drop him to get the reaction. Or at least you shouldn't.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2021 21:21:44 GMT
Play Davies because he's better Or play Bursik because he's young 🤷🏻♂️ He's just as good (better at different things imo) and could be worth a fortune in 12 months.
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