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Post by stokecitytalke on Sept 5, 2021 19:24:38 GMT
Will he need to quarantine when he returns from international? Don't think so, just covid tests.
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Post by skemstokie on Sept 5, 2021 21:24:25 GMT
Perhaps the Derby County set up would suit you better? Is that the only alternative? Name me one owner in the history of Stoke better than what we have ?
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Post by a on Sept 5, 2021 23:20:58 GMT
Is that the only alternative? Name me one owner in the history of Stoke better than what we have ? Tony Scholes isn’t the owner though so I don’t get your point?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 23:41:46 GMT
Big and fast and physical but not very good on the ball. Big fast and physical may very well be sufficient to cause problems in the Championship, you are spot on about his ball control though. I’ve only seen him this once, so it may have been a bit of an off day regarding control. It will be interesting to see who is left out to accommodate him- probably Fletcher unless he has a stormer against Huddersfield? Cameron Jerome had a very decent career despite being pretty darn limited on the ball. The Prem was a step too far, but up to Championship he did well.
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Post by skemstokie on Sept 6, 2021 8:40:37 GMT
Name me one owner in the history of Stoke better than what we have ? Tony Scholes isn’t the owner though so I don’t get your point? If the Coates family can have the business acumen to amass a large fortune in a relative short time i assume they have more than enough business nous and knowledge to appoint a C.E.O. Perhaps you should amass such a fortune then buy them out?
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Post by a on Sept 6, 2021 22:38:22 GMT
Tony Scholes isn’t the owner though so I don’t get your point? If the Coates family can have the business acumen to amass a large fortune in a relative short time i assume they have more than enough business nous and knowledge to appoint a C.E.O. Perhaps you should amass such a fortune then buy them out? What a childishly simple way to look at things. So you think Scholes is doing a good job as CEO currently? What a strangely limited viewpoint to have. Coates = rich, Scholes = CEO, therefore scholes must be doing a good job otherwise he’d be sacked? You can’t possibly think there’s more to it than that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 2:43:53 GMT
Tony Scholes isn’t the owner though so I don’t get your point? If the Coates family can have the business acumen to amass a large fortune in a relative short time i assume they have more than enough business nous and knowledge to appoint a C.E.O. Perhaps you should amass such a fortune then buy them out? They work with him daily, are smart business people and have far more an idea what he does than folk on a message board to be fair.
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Post by george2again on Sept 7, 2021 5:05:57 GMT
Big fast and physical may very well be sufficient to cause problems in the Championship, you are spot on about his ball control though. I’ve only seen him this once, so it may have been a bit of an off day regarding control. It will be interesting to see who is left out to accommodate him- probably Fletcher unless he has a stormer against Huddersfield? I doubt he'll start many games think he'll be an impact player from the bench or to rest Brown for the odd game. To rest Brown for the odd game? Brown is not a goal scorer he's a trier. Lots of merit in trying and running but your striker need to be scoring for the club to do well. We cant carry a trier. If anything Brown should be a squad player at most.
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Post by skemstokie on Sept 7, 2021 8:07:04 GMT
If the Coates family can have the business acumen to amass a large fortune in a relative short time i assume they have more than enough business nous and knowledge to appoint a C.E.O. Perhaps you should amass such a fortune then buy them out? What a childishly simple way to look at things. So you think Scholes is doing a good job as CEO currently? What a strangely limited viewpoint to have. Coates = rich, Scholes = CEO, therefore scholes must be doing a good job otherwise he’d be sacked? You can’t possibly think there’s more to it than that? Why is it childish,please elaborate, i tend to find successful people surround themselves with successful people, the Coates family origins are the back streets of the Potteries they were not born rich but amassed a fortune,have you?
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Post by a on Sept 7, 2021 8:30:31 GMT
What a childishly simple way to look at things. So you think Scholes is doing a good job as CEO currently? What a strangely limited viewpoint to have. Coates = rich, Scholes = CEO, therefore scholes must be doing a good job otherwise he’d be sacked? You can’t possibly think there’s more to it than that? Why is it childish,please elaborate, i tend to find successful people surround themselves with successful people, the Coates family origins are the back streets of the Potteries they were not born rich but amassed a fortune,have you? What has my personal wealth got to do with the running of Stoke City football club? None whatsoever. You’re deflecting massively. I will elaborate, you think it is as simple as they’re rich therefore they don’t make mistakes in business. What a ridiculous notion. They were too slow to remove the manager and we got relegated. They failed to appoint a proper replacement and we got relegated. But they’re rich so how could that happen? See? Very daft. You’ve ignored my question about Scholes recent performance too, care to answer? Has he been successful in the last 3 seasons?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 7, 2021 9:38:54 GMT
Why is it childish,please elaborate, i tend to find successful people surround themselves with successful people, the Coates family origins are the back streets of the Potteries they were not born rich but amassed a fortune,have you? What has my personal wealth got to do with the running of Stoke City football club? None whatsoever. You’re deflecting massively. I will elaborate, you think it is as simple as they’re rich therefore they don’t make mistakes in business. What a ridiculous notion. They were too slow to remove the manager and we got relegated. They failed to appoint a proper replacement and we got relegated. But they’re rich so how could that happen? See? Very daft. You’ve ignored my question about Scholes recent performance too, care to answer? Has he been successful in the last 3 seasons? I suppose it depends upon what you mean by recent. He didn't cover himself in glory in the run up to relegation or in the time immediately following - to be honest, who at the club did? But, since MON arrived, I can't find a lot of fault in Scholes' performance. Certainly not enough faults to kick him out unless I could be sure I was going to replace him with better. As I said, Scholes certainly made plenty of mistakes a few years back but I'm struggling to think of anyone on the admin side (including the owners) who didn't. If the owners are prepared to back what Scholes has done recently, that's fine by me. Of course, unlike some Stokies, I don't think we should slavishly do whatever bayernoatcake says we should.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 9:50:52 GMT
I doubt he'll start many games think he'll be an impact player from the bench or to rest Brown for the odd game. To rest Brown for the odd game? Brown is not a goal scorer he's a trier. Lots of merit in trying and running but your striker need to be scoring for the club to do well. We cant carry a trier. If anything Brown should be a squad player at most. I think that the rotation will really depend on the game. Brown has been making a lot of good runs into space this season. (Truth is that he always has but instead of getting a decent pass, he’s had to make a 50 yard chase). He’s not without attacking merit. Against teams like Fulham, Bournemouth, Swansea etc I would start Brown and Surridge, who cover a massive amount of ground and reduce the likelihood of them starting attacks from the back (especially if Powell is also fit), which is basically those teams’ entire game. At other times, I would be using Surridge (when fit) or Brown and Sima. That’s assuming that Sima will be any good. Out of the four strikers, I personally admire Fletcher the most for his work ethic this late in his career, but his injury proneness (and age) makes me feel that he should be the least used.
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Post by skemstokie on Sept 7, 2021 11:40:53 GMT
Why is it childish,please elaborate, i tend to find successful people surround themselves with successful people, the Coates family origins are the back streets of the Potteries they were not born rich but amassed a fortune,have you? What has my personal wealth got to do with the running of Stoke City football club? None whatsoever. You’re deflecting massively. I will elaborate, you think it is as simple as they’re rich therefore they don’t make mistakes in business. What a ridiculous notion. They were too slow to remove the manager and we got relegated. They failed to appoint a proper replacement and we got relegated. But they’re rich so how could that happen? See? Very daft. You’ve ignored my question about Scholes recent performance too, care to answer? Has he been successful in the last 3 seasons? I will file your future posts under not worth reading or responding to.
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Post by a on Sept 7, 2021 12:08:31 GMT
What has my personal wealth got to do with the running of Stoke City football club? None whatsoever. You’re deflecting massively. I will elaborate, you think it is as simple as they’re rich therefore they don’t make mistakes in business. What a ridiculous notion. They were too slow to remove the manager and we got relegated. They failed to appoint a proper replacement and we got relegated. But they’re rich so how could that happen? See? Very daft. You’ve ignored my question about Scholes recent performance too, care to answer? Has he been successful in the last 3 seasons? I will file your future posts under not worth reading or responding to. If you can’t come back to me with a reasonable answer then I would suggest that would be for the best.
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Post by a on Sept 7, 2021 12:15:41 GMT
If the Coates family can have the business acumen to amass a large fortune in a relative short time i assume they have more than enough business nous and knowledge to appoint a C.E.O. Perhaps you should amass such a fortune then buy them out? They work with him daily, are smart business people and have far more an idea what he does than folk on a message board to be fair. Very true, that is if they work with him on a daily basis rather than let him do his job as CEO? I know they eventually tried to rectify the mistakes made in the relegation season (although too late to stop us dropping) and tried to get us back up by spending lots of money (a championship record wasn’t it) which I’m not bemoaning, we should’ve done better given the resources at our disposal. Mistakes were made which is part of the point I was making with regards to Teflon Tony not being replaced. Let’s face it, we changed almost everything from the head bloke (owners aside) apart from the head honcho. Is that a mistake? I’m not sure either way but he is certainly not immune from criticism as likewise the owners aren’t too.
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Post by potterburt on Sept 7, 2021 14:17:22 GMT
Any plucky folks out there that might be able get, a stream for Congo vs Senegal?
Curious to see if we’d get to get a glimpse at our new Zim Zima!?!
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2021 15:15:32 GMT
Seems to be starting for Senegal this afternoon - on the right wing
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2021 15:17:33 GMT
Any plucky folks out there that might be able get, a stream for Congo vs Senegal? Curious to see if we’d get to get a glimpse at our new Zim Zima!?! It's live on youtube again
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Post by werrington on Sept 7, 2021 15:22:17 GMT
Got a feeling neither him or Souttar will start Saturday given the amount of travelling and distances ….especially Souttar
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Post by superalexneil on Sept 7, 2021 17:28:31 GMT
Played 60mins
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Post by nott1 on Sept 8, 2021 8:38:56 GMT
Just watched it to when Sima was subbed. He's a big lump but nothing to get excited about on this evidence!
Ignore the message, just click on and the match will appear.
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Post by potterburt on Sept 8, 2021 13:10:03 GMT
Just watched it to when Sima was subbed. He's a big lump but nothing to get excited about on this evidence! Ignore the message, just click on and the match will appear. Not much evidence to go on with that really. He was heading to the bench before the board went up which could suggest it was a pre-requisite/agreed before hand that he would only play part of the match - perhaps arranged-agreed as he’s just signed for a new club and didn’t wanna start off with an injury.
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Post by potterburt on Sept 8, 2021 13:32:18 GMT
Guess he’ll need to quarantine for 8 days or something, if not longer, think Congo is a red list country and Senegal amber. Even if there’s poop holes in any of that and getting the ‘release’ test done - very much doubt they’d be enough time for him involved this Saturday and might be a stretch at Barnsley - chance he may even miss Derby a week on Sat?
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Post by nott1 on Sept 8, 2021 13:50:03 GMT
Guess he’ll need to quarantine for 8 days or something, if not longer, think Congo is a red list country and Senegal amber. Even if there’s poop holes in any of that and getting the ‘release’ test done - very much doubt they’d be enough time for him involved this Saturday and might be a stretch at Barnsley - chance he may even miss Derby a week on Sat? He will be in the squad by the looks of it for this weekend:- Michael O’Neill could include Sima in his matchday squad on Saturday as the Northern Irishman bids to lead his side to victory on the back of the 3-0 reverse at Fulham prior to the international break.
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Sept 8, 2021 19:21:12 GMT
I thought MON said he wasn’t going to sign players who weren’t 1st team. That’s what was so frustrating away at Fulham. Players on the bench who should have started. Sawyers, Surridge and Doughty Each if whom are behind the others fitness wise. You wouldn’t start them Saturday?
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Post by lordb on Sept 8, 2021 19:52:49 GMT
Sawyers, Surridge and Doughty Each if whom are behind the others fitness wise. You wouldn’t start them Saturday? To be yes all three! Maybe not Doughty. But I wouldn't have started any of them at Fulham
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Sept 8, 2021 20:06:19 GMT
You wouldn’t start them Saturday? To be yes all three! Maybe not Doughty. But I wouldn't have started any of them at Fulham Agreed after Tymon’s performance but the other 2 yes.
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Sept 8, 2021 20:08:08 GMT
To be yes all three! Maybe not Doughty. But I wouldn't have started any of them at Fulham Agreed after Tymon’s performance but the other 2 yes. Sima for Brown. Surridge for Fletcher. Sawyers for Clucas. If fit Powell for Vranjic. Vs Huddersfield.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 8, 2021 20:34:50 GMT
Agreed after Tymon’s performance but the other 2 yes. Sima for Brown. Surridge for Fletcher. Sawyers for Clucas. If fit Powell for Vranjic. Vs Huddersfield. I’d be amazed if he dropped brown for sima beige the latter has kicked a ball in the championship
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Post by Jimm on Sept 8, 2021 20:59:57 GMT
I doubt we'll see Sima till Watford away
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