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Post by wherty on Jul 22, 2021 10:33:58 GMT
Not acceptable in any form. What about supporters who are diabetic and have to carry injection pens and emergency sugar products with them? Sort it out. There is and always had been exemptions for medical reasons
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2021 10:35:49 GMT
I presume it is down to the fact that the club (or the government?) doesn't feel that bag searches are a good idea. Of course a determined terrorist could easily conceal a weapon/IED under their clothing! Anyone know what the bag policy was at the recent T20 match at Old Trafford? Isn't getting half heartedly patted down more of a covid risk than looking in a bag? Not a chance I'm allowing anybody to pat me down. It says quite clearly in the new rules, that you must maintain social distancing at all times and not look anybody in the eye. If I break the rules they probably won't let me in ... 🤦♂️
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Post by thestatusquo on Jul 22, 2021 10:43:17 GMT
Isn't getting half heartedly patted down more of a covid risk than looking in a bag? Not a chance I'm allowing anybody to pat me down. It says quite clearly in the new rules, that you must maintain social distancing at all times and not look anybody in the eye. If I break the rules they probably won't let me in ... 🤦♂️ Actually that is a very good point. The minimum they would have to do would be to don a fresh pair of gloves for every adult entering the stadium. They’ll have to start the searches before daylight!
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 22, 2021 10:48:02 GMT
Not acceptable in any form. What about supporters who are diabetic and have to carry injection pens and emergency sugar products with them? Sort it out. There is and always had been exemptions for medical reasons If that is the case then the guidance needs updating.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 22, 2021 11:14:35 GMT
Hopefully something that will get more clarification sooner rather than later. If you take a look at other stadium policies (first 2 I found were Wembley and Brentford) they say similar, but expand on this to say that a small A4/A5 sized clear bag can be used. Does anybody know where I can buy an A4 sized flask from!? The club shop?
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Post by jwhpotter on Jul 22, 2021 11:37:01 GMT
I wonder if all this will change when everyone has been offered the 2 vaccines? Because if not, is it going to be like this forever?! The virus will never completely be eradicated and we’re now apparently living in a ‘restriction free’ country. You wouldn’t have thought so with this code of conduct. Yes stay sensible but also enjoy life whilst you can!
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Post by philb on Jul 22, 2021 11:43:15 GMT
Wonder what they’re going to do at the first home game when thousands turn up with bags? Won’t work.. End of.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 22, 2021 11:43:30 GMT
Not acceptable in any form. What about supporters who are diabetic and have to carry injection pens and emergency sugar products with them? Sort it out. There is and always had been exemptions for medical reasons Herbal tea it is then
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Post by klingon on Jul 22, 2021 12:07:39 GMT
A mate of mine once recommended a flask of “Poachers’ Blood”, consisting of Bovril and port in equal measures. Tried it once, but threw up at half-time. My recommendation is therefore not to be trusted. Shouldn’t have had those pints in the Beehive before the match.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jul 22, 2021 12:17:23 GMT
the person who normally sits next to me doesn't jam a bag up.... Phew!
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Post by danceswithclams on Jul 22, 2021 12:21:21 GMT
It's to stop anyone bringing in a big bag of Covid.
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Post by ossicular on Jul 22, 2021 12:24:25 GMT
Well, it's one of these for me then
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 22, 2021 13:23:56 GMT
This won’t end well
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Post by wilcopotter on Jul 22, 2021 13:53:02 GMT
Can someone explain why under the new stadium Code of Conduct bags are not allowed. What has this got to do with Covid. Is it because social distancing will mean we won’t have those pointless frisks at the turnstiles so bags cannot be searched. I really don’t think this has been thought through. You go to the club shop before the game but that’s a waste of time because if you buy anything you won’t be able to take it into the ground. ? What about those fans who travel some distance and carry a rucksack with some butties and a flask ? People with young children who have a bag with food and drink for them ? Absolutely ridiculous decision !!! We travel up from Oxford and have bought a rucksack and flask for years. Also what about people that visit the shop before the game, what are they supposed to do with their purchases? Probably a ploy to increase stadium catering sales. On the bright side, they have gone contactless.
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Post by callas12 on Jul 22, 2021 14:33:30 GMT
Doesn't mention bum-bags! 😲😁 Perhaps they can have a 2nd coming, that's a way of getting some scran in from home?!
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Post by dirtclod on Jul 22, 2021 18:41:17 GMT
Oh...nevermind...they ARE letting wives in after all.
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Jul 22, 2021 21:24:44 GMT
Waiting to hear the "why" behind this.
I visited Legoland this week with the kids... took a bag, no issue whatsoever. I put it on a table and they looked inside it. Job done.
The NFL, both here and in the US, have a "bag ban" with a pre-approved list: clear, specific maximum size etc. Why, if there is a concern around bags, don't they just implement this rule? At least that will clear up the issues around pre-match shop purchases, too..!
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 22, 2021 21:37:50 GMT
I presume it is down to the fact that the club (or the government?) doesn't feel that bag searches are a good idea. Of course a determined terrorist could easily conceal a weapon/IED under their clothing! Anyone know what the bag policy was at the recent T20 match at Old Trafford? Isn't getting half heartedly patted down more of a covid risk than looking in a bag? Yes. Hopefully they will take this opportunity to quietly drop these silly body searches. Weren’t they only bought in as a knee-jerk reaction to the attack outside the football stadium in Paris a while back when France was on red alert? Any sensible risk assessment would surely conclude they are no longer required in the EFL.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 22, 2021 21:39:56 GMT
I’m delighted with this news, there’s nowt more annoying than their constant need to go for a piss when we’re on the attack!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 22, 2021 21:40:49 GMT
Great, it'll stop the people who bring a full on picnic spread with them.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 22, 2021 21:48:44 GMT
I presume it is down to the fact that the club (or the government?) doesn't feel that bag searches are a good idea. Of course a determined terrorist could easily conceal a weapon/IED under their clothing! Anyone know what the bag policy was at the recent T20 match at Old Trafford? I was at Edgbaston a few weeks ago watching the cricket and you were fine to take a bag in. Searches still went ahead, you just had to open it up yourself and allow the security staff to look inside. All very painless.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 22, 2021 22:31:59 GMT
I presume it is down to the fact that the club (or the government?) doesn't feel that bag searches are a good idea. Of course a determined terrorist could easily conceal a weapon/IED under their clothing! Anyone know what the bag policy was at the recent T20 match at Old Trafford? I was at the T20 at Old Trafford, John. The contents of bags were examined in the usual way but they were allowed.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 23, 2021 7:37:24 GMT
Waiting to hear the "why" behind this. I visited Legoland this week with the kids... took a bag, no issue whatsoever. I put it on a table and they looked inside it. Job done. The NFL, both here and in the US, have a "bag ban" with a pre-approved list: clear, specific maximum size etc. Why, if there is a concern around bags, don't they just implement this rule? At least that will clear up the issues around pre-match shop purchases, too..! As you say, there should be a clear explanation of the background to and reasons for this. Is this a requirement of the Council Safety Advisory Group who license the stadium ? If so, what is their reason ? If not, why have the Club introduced this rule ? Has there been any consultation with, or information provided to, the Supporters Council ? Is it an absolute ban on bags, whatever their size, including handbags and manbags ? If not, why hasn't the maximum allowable size been publicised ? Does it include transparent bags containing club shop purchases ? For those who bring drinks and/or food in bags, it will increase the use of outlets inside the stadium and the queues at them ? Is this good Covid practice ? I fear that unless there is greater clarity, transparency and publicity around it, there could be real problems on matchday.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2021 7:41:51 GMT
Waiting to hear the "why" behind this. I visited Legoland this week with the kids... took a bag, no issue whatsoever. I put it on a table and they looked inside it. Job done. The NFL, both here and in the US, have a "bag ban" with a pre-approved list: clear, specific maximum size etc. Why, if there is a concern around bags, don't they just implement this rule? At least that will clear up the issues around pre-match shop purchases, too..! As you say, there should be a clear explanation of the background to and reasons for this. Is this a requirement of the Council Safety Advisory Group who license the stadium ? If so, what is their reason ? If not, why have the Club introduced this rule ? Has there been any consultation with, or information provided to, the Supporters Council ? Is it an absolute ban on bags, whatever their size, including handbags and manbags ? If not, why hasn't the maximum allowable size been publicised ? Does it include transparent bags containing club shop purchases ? For those who bring drinks and/or food in bags, it will increase the use of outlets inside the stadium and the queues at them ? Is this good Covid practice ? I fear that unless there is greater clarity, transparency and publicity around it, there could be real problems on matchday. Well said, Malcolm. In the absence of any guidance it might be a good idea to email Tony Scholes and ask him. Of course one would have hoped that the supporters council would already have taken this up but silence suggests they haven't - of course, to be fair, it is possible that they only heard about the new bag policy when the rest of us did. Please let us know Tony's response if you do email him.
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Post by keasie1863 on Jul 23, 2021 8:49:24 GMT
After 42 years and thousands of games,I really am questioning my purchase of a season ticket.saturday was always my escape from the daily grind of the working week,any more of this and I will call it a day,and go watch non league football.really depressing.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 23, 2021 9:24:30 GMT
As you say, there should be a clear explanation of the background to and reasons for this. Is this a requirement of the Council Safety Advisory Group who license the stadium ? If so, what is their reason ? If not, why have the Club introduced this rule ? Has there been any consultation with, or information provided to, the Supporters Council ? Is it an absolute ban on bags, whatever their size, including handbags and manbags ? If not, why hasn't the maximum allowable size been publicised ? Does it include transparent bags containing club shop purchases ? For those who bring drinks and/or food in bags, it will increase the use of outlets inside the stadium and the queues at them ? Is this good Covid practice ? I fear that unless there is greater clarity, transparency and publicity around it, there could be real problems on matchday. Well said, Malcolm. In the absence of any guidance it might be a good idea to email Tony Scholes and ask him. Of course one would have hoped that the supporters council would already have taken this up but silence suggests they haven't - of course, to be fair, it is possible that they only heard about the new bag policy when the rest of us did. Please let us know Tony's response if you do email him. I'm on the case, John
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2021 9:34:03 GMT
Well said, Malcolm. In the absence of any guidance it might be a good idea to email Tony Scholes and ask him. Of course one would have hoped that the supporters council would already have taken this up but silence suggests they haven't - of course, to be fair, it is possible that they only heard about the new bag policy when the rest of us did. Please let us know Tony's response if you do email him. I'm on the case, John Neil usually has a bag doesn't he?
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jul 23, 2021 9:59:13 GMT
Neil usually has a bag doesn't he? Yep, absolutely he does, containing as a Swansea steward amusingly put it after searching my bag " Assorted paraphernalia". That's the killer isn't it - they take on Nello at their peril Can't imagine him without that bag.
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2021 10:38:30 GMT
Neil usually has a bag doesn't he? Yep, absolutely he does, containing as a Swansea steward amusingly put it after searching my bag " Assorted paraphernalia". That's the killer isn't it - they take on Nello at their peril Can't imagine him without that bag. always take Neil into any meeting with authority either he will disarm them with Neil charm & logic &/or he'll know the authorities superior as a 'very good friend' thinking about it Neil should involved in all negotiations the club does
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jul 23, 2021 11:31:05 GMT
I’ve been going stoke home and away for nearly 40 years now, don’t think I’ve ever taken a bag into the ground in all that time.
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