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Post by mickstupp on Jul 3, 2021 15:55:27 GMT
Maybe a Gleghornesque type of role for him. Left center mid? Who’s doing the Wallace-esque graft and dirty work for him though?. He’s a very nice, technical player but we really need some running power in the middle of the park.
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 3, 2021 15:57:07 GMT
I don't, Grapey, but I also don't see where he fits into the XI beyond competition for Powell. Sounds like he has bags of technical quality and a set piece prowess, which is good, but what the midfield is crying out for is 1) discipline and 2) energy. He sounds like a deep lying midfielder ie a Woods upgrade, not especially physical - that kind of midfielder basically requires two people to do their running for them, like Adam did with Whelan/Nzonzi. Do you get him and Powell into the same side without shoehorning Powell out wide? Sounds like a good squad option though. It's an intriguing one! Presumably MON has got a plan as he must know what he's getting. Could he not play as a no 10 with Powell playing deeper if we got a proper defensive mid in. Powell does have plenty of energy and helps in defence alot already. Might help against the more defensive minded teams
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 3, 2021 15:58:32 GMT
It's an intriguing one! Presumably MON has got a plan as he must know what he's getting. Could he not play as a no 10 with Powell playing deeper if we got a proper defensive mid in. Powell does have plenty of energy and helps in defence alot already. Might help against the more defensive minded teams Agree Powell can play deeper and has the legs to be very effective. Sounds like him and Vrancic will complement each other
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 3, 2021 15:59:38 GMT
Quality on the ball which is in short supply in our squad. Not sure how you blend him into our midfield but hopefully what we have to blend him with will change quite soon. Joe Allen had an outstanding Euro's I think we'll struggle to hold onto him lol.
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Post by march4 on Jul 3, 2021 15:59:57 GMT
32, and not a regular last season in the same division.
Please excuse me not getting over excited.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 3, 2021 16:00:08 GMT
We need Powell closer to goal, not further away from it. Whenever we've played him deeper it's neutered him because it bogs him down with more defensive duties when we need him as unfettered as possible to create and to get on the end of stuff himself.
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Post by thehoof on Jul 3, 2021 16:02:32 GMT
If he can pass that adds something to our midfield. Powell has to play higher up the pitch - in a team that has struggled to score, it’s madness to start your leading scorer from a deep position. We may still move Clucas or Allen on, so M’On has squad room to get in the “legs” midfielder- perhaps one of the U-23 ( Adam Porter?) in pre-season to have a look.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 3, 2021 16:02:43 GMT
Could he not play as a no 10 with Powell playing deeper if we got a proper defensive mid in. Powell does have plenty of energy and helps in defence alot already. Might help against the more defensive minded teams Agree Powell can play deeper and has the legs to be very effective. Sounds like him and Vrancic will complement each other You don't want Powell playing deep, you'd totally destroy his game. Vrancic is a good player but I'd prefer him deeper than Powell.
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Post by lordb on Jul 3, 2021 16:04:41 GMT
Powell had to come off around the hour mark a lot last season, Powell off Vranic on works for me.
We need another type of midfielder as well though
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Post by thehoof on Jul 3, 2021 16:15:23 GMT
32, and not a regular last season in the same division. Please excuse me not getting over excited. Not a regular because he played for the best side in the division who chose to bring him on to affect tight games- which it appears he did quite often. Our regulars changed games to the extent we managed a Championship highest finish of 14th. It’s the squad that finished last season that leaves me unimpressed.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 3, 2021 16:17:34 GMT
Another golden oldie , onwards and upwards
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 3, 2021 16:20:11 GMT
He sounds really good.
Another I’ve never heard of mind 😂
An article FM linked though seemed interesting about him and the Norwich manager say he was the best player from the bench in the league.
Last season one of the biggest issues was how we used the bench and a game changing option (lack of) we had there.
If MoN uses him like that then he could be a fantastic addition.
It’s a big if given his previous but I’m gonna be hopeful!
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Post by peterpan1 on Jul 3, 2021 16:24:57 GMT
32, and not a regular last season in the same division. Please excuse me not getting over excited. Whatever happened to young, hungry players that wanted to play for the shirt?
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Post by wuzza on Jul 3, 2021 16:26:18 GMT
We are desperate for someone with any level of quality that can pinch a result for us here and there so this sounds a really useful addition. So many of our games last season descended into a stalemate of mediocrity
(Be great if we could get that Bannan bloke from Sheff Wed to add to the midfield mix but I fear this would be beyond our paltry means)
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Post by march4 on Jul 3, 2021 16:26:35 GMT
32, and not a regular last season in the same division. Please excuse me not getting over excited. Not a regular because he played for the best side in the division who chose to bring him on to affect tight games- which it appears he did quite often. Our regulars changed games to the extent we managed a Championship highest finish of 14th. It’s the squad that finished last season that leaves me unimpressed. Even his supporters describe him as needing runners around him. I would suggest that is why he didn’t start games. Added to that we had the slowest most unfit team I’ve seen us put out in years, then I’m not getting excited about this signing.
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Post by bojanihilate on Jul 3, 2021 16:27:50 GMT
Let him sit in the centre circle pinging passes around and getting forward to take a set piece.
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Post by lordb on Jul 3, 2021 16:28:16 GMT
Not a regular because he played for the best side in the division who chose to bring him on to affect tight games- which it appears he did quite often. Our regulars changed games to the extent we managed a Championship highest finish of 14th. It’s the squad that finished last season that leaves me unimpressed. Even his supporters describe him as needing runners around him. I would suggest that is why he didn’t start games. Added to that we had the slowest most unfit team I’ve seen us put out in years, then I’m not getting excited about this signing. He's got a touch of class about him, look at those free kicks. Come on he looks a good addition
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 3, 2021 16:33:32 GMT
Let him sit in the centre circle pinging passes around and getting forward to take a set piece. Alongside who though? Allen’s going to play as long as he’s here.
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Post by bojanihilate on Jul 3, 2021 16:34:48 GMT
Let him sit in the centre circle pinging passes around and getting forward to take a set piece. Alongside who though? Allen’s going to play as long as he’s here. true, allen can do the running part for him. 😂
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Post by bojanihilate on Jul 3, 2021 16:37:07 GMT
In all honesty though I do think depending on formation. If 3 at the back I think him and allen/thompson could be ok. But in a back four there wouldnt be enough protection for my liking
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 3, 2021 16:58:33 GMT
Let him sit in the centre circle pinging passes around and getting forward to take a set piece. Slight problem with that plan as you need movement for him to ping passes to. As we have the most imobile and statuesque group of players I’ve ever seen, I can’t see it working unless we coach them how to put one foot in front of the other, run and how to find space.
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Post by bojanihilate on Jul 3, 2021 17:02:33 GMT
Let him sit in the centre circle pinging passes around and getting forward to take a set piece. Slight problem with that plan as you need movement for him to ping passes to. As we have the most imobile and statuesque group of players I’ve ever seen, I can’t see it working unless we coach them how to put one foot in front of the other, run and how to find space. I wasnt completly serious as such, but I fully agree with you mate. Im hoping campbell, powell and a new striker would offer good movement.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 3, 2021 17:03:34 GMT
Great signing.... 👍🏼
Who is he??? 🤔
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Post by yyy on Jul 3, 2021 17:05:48 GMT
Not going to grumble at a player who supposedly has technical ability. Don't know much about him though at all to form an opinion.
I hope he's good.
Wikipedia allready says he's a Stoke player
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 3, 2021 17:10:41 GMT
2 things of note with the signing: 1. Our NIge will have hell with his surname 2.The Sentinel sports editor will already have the headline sorted for when he screams a dead ball winner in....."Super Mario Land"
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 3, 2021 17:15:33 GMT
We need Powell closer to goal, not further away from it. Whenever we've played him deeper it's neutered him because it bogs him down with more defensive duties when we need him as unfettered as possible to create and to get on the end of stuff himself. Only stoke fans could want our top scorer last season playing a deeper midfield role with more defensive responsibilities
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 17:20:36 GMT
32, and not a regular last season in the same division. Please excuse me not getting over excited. Whatever happened to young, hungry players that wanted to play for the shirt? We have a fair few but you need experience as well.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 3, 2021 17:25:30 GMT
Agree Powell can play deeper and has the legs to be very effective. Sounds like him and Vrancic will complement each other You don't want Powell playing deep, you'd totally destroy his game. Vrancic is a good player but I'd prefer him deeper than Powell. Don’t see how you would destroy Powell’s game deeper when he had a number of excellent games there, helping control the game and able to break from deep. Sometimes at 10 he gets too far forward and cut off from midfield. With Vrancic we will have more options
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 3, 2021 17:30:39 GMT
You don't want Powell playing deep, you'd totally destroy his game. Vrancic is a good player but I'd prefer him deeper than Powell. Don’t see how you would destroy Powell’s game deeper when he had a number of excellent games there, helping control the game and able to break from deep. Sometimes at 10 he gets too far forward and cut off from midfield. With Vrancic we will have more options Which excellent games were these? At number 10 he still frequently drops back to help the midfield more than I’d like, given his goal threat we need to free him up more to focus on that?
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 3, 2021 17:47:32 GMT
32, and not a regular last season in the same division. Please excuse me not getting over excited. Whatever happened to young, hungry players that wanted to play for the shirt? we have some young hungry players and people moan about most of them on here every week we need more players with better technical ability, and we are now in the beggars cant be choosers category whether we like it or not.
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