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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 28, 2021 11:01:01 GMT
Yes but the people who turned a silk purse into a sows ear are now expecting to turn the sows ear into a silk purse. If we get crap goods for money what kind of crap goods are we expecting with no money from a limited market? Why is every other player we are linked too Irish? Is that the of depth of our knowledge of players, if it is God help us The owners may have financed some crap signings in the past but it't the managers who identified and bought them in. The owner's don't - and shouldn't - have that much say in the choice of players. It's the manager - or the director of football or equivalent - who make the actual decisions. If we changed owners the same problems would exist and if we changed owners to a nieve idiot who was happy to throw money at the problem the club would no longer exist in 2 or 3 years time. We're shopping in the Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh branches of Lidl because they are cheaper than the English branches and because of Brexit our options for shopping in Europe are constrained and anyway the European goods are happy where they are or are only interested in the big time Charlies who can afford the lifestyle. Stoke City aren't a Premiership club anymore. We're just another mid table Championship with hopes of promotion and the only way out is to recognise where we're at, deal with the realities of the situation and scrap our way out with the quality of players we can afford and attract - which player for player will be worse than what we've been used to for the last 13 years. Agreed - our fate was sealed when Rowett was given £50 million to spend and didn't spend it wisely - everything now stems from that. We just have to grit our teeth until the contracts run out on the deadwood players. The Collins/Wilmot deal is pretty well the blueprint for the best we can do until the club is back on an even keel.
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Post by nott1 on Jun 28, 2021 11:51:16 GMT
Any that played on a colour t.v? You’ll be asking next for only players that have played premier league football Here’s one no one has mentioned sammy mcllroy Jimmy McIlroy was better!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 28, 2021 11:57:45 GMT
You’ll be asking next for only players that have played premier league football Here’s one no one has mentioned sammy mcllroy Jimmy McIlroy was better! Yes, Jimmy Mac was one of the most skillful players I have seen at Stoke. Towards the end of games he would take the ball to a corner at the end we were attacking and defy anyone to get the ball off him. Usually no one could and if it went out of play it was usually our corner or throw in. Of course he was pretty old when he joined Stoke - he must have been fantastic in his prime.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 28, 2021 13:14:31 GMT
Jimmy McIlroy was better! Yes, Jimmy Mac was one of the most skillful players I have seen at Stoke. Towards the end of games he would take the ball to a corner at the end we were attacking and defy anyone to get the ball off him. Usually no one could and if it went out of play it was usually our corner or throw in. Of course he was pretty old when he joined Stoke - he must have been fantastic in his prime. Old? He was 30 when he joined Stoke in 1961! He would have been a spring chicken compared to some of our current squad. He made quite an impact at Stoke but it probably helped that the team around then included players such as Stanley, and Jackie Mudie and Dennis Viollet. Edit. Mind you the Oatcake posters of today would undoubtedly have dismissed him on signing as being a fading star, looking for a last pay day and far from the age group of potential talent that we should be looking at.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 28, 2021 13:21:31 GMT
Yes, Jimmy Mac was one of the most skillful players I have seen at Stoke. Towards the end of games he would take the ball to a corner at the end we were attacking and defy anyone to get the ball off him. Usually no one could and if it went out of play it was usually our corner or throw in. Of course he was pretty old when he joined Stoke - he must have been fantastic in his prime. Old? He was 30 when he joined Stoke in 1961! He would have been a spring chicken compared to some of our current squad. He made quite an impact at Stoke but it probably helped that the team around then included players such as Stanley, and Jackie Mudie and Dennis Viollet. Yes, but he was old compared to me. He was twice my age, in fact!
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 28, 2021 13:27:09 GMT
Alistair McCann has won more trophies in 12 months than we have in several years, as St Johnstone won the cup double last season. We need that winning mentality. Depressingly he's won more major trophies in 1 season than we have in over 150
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 13:41:54 GMT
Alistair McCann has won more trophies in 12 months than we have in several years, as St Johnstone won the cup double last season. We need that winning mentality. Depressingly he's won more major trophies in 1 season than we have in over 150 N iReland have bever won the World Cup so no way we should be considering players who play for them.
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 14:15:39 GMT
Yes but the people who turned a silk purse into a sows ear are now expecting to turn the sows ear into a silk purse. If we get crap goods for money what kind of crap goods are we expecting with no money from a limited market? Why is every other player we are linked too Irish? Is that the of depth of our knowledge of players, if it is God help us The owners may have financed some crap signings in the past but it't the managers who identified and bought them in. The owner's don't - and shouldn't - have that much say in the choice of players. It's the manager - or the director of football or equivalent - who make the actual decisions. If we changed owners the same problems would exist and if we changed owners to a nieve idiot who was happy to throw money at the problem the club would no longer exist in 2 or 3 years time. We're shopping in the Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh branches of Lidl because they are cheaper than the English branches and because of Brexit our options for shopping in Europe are constrained and anyway the European goods are happy where they are or are only interested in the big time Charlies who can afford the lifestyle. Stoke City aren't a Premiership club anymore. We're just another mid table Championship with hopes of promotion and the only way out is to recognise where we're at, deal with the realities of the situation and scrap our way out with the quality of players we can afford and attract - which player for player will be worse than what we've been used to for the last 13 years. So what we're saying then is we can only shop in England, Ireland, Wales & Scotland? I was led to believe brexit closed some markets but opened others, infact I'm pretty sure that's the case. Seen enough shit stoke performances over the last 6 or so years so expect some good signings for a change, signings that can take control of a game and make a difference. We've just sold a player for £15m and although the window is far from shut the early signs are we are looking at players that won't improve a shit team. It's all good & exciting signing players we've never heard of but if they're crap it's not all so good is it. Brexit has opened up other markets apart from the british Isles, we knew it was happening so why arn't we looking in them? Scotland Premiership is the equivalent of League 1. Northern Ireland produce as many good footballers as Jamaica produces Bob sleighers, it's not a great combination. I think it's fair to say Northern Irish players are workhorses and not technically good footballers. You need an x factor to get promotion not just a team of workhorses.
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Post by lordb on Jun 28, 2021 14:26:28 GMT
The owners may have financed some crap signings in the past but it't the managers who identified and bought them in. The owner's don't - and shouldn't - have that much say in the choice of players. It's the manager - or the director of football or equivalent - who make the actual decisions. If we changed owners the same problems would exist and if we changed owners to a nieve idiot who was happy to throw money at the problem the club would no longer exist in 2 or 3 years time. We're shopping in the Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh branches of Lidl because they are cheaper than the English branches and because of Brexit our options for shopping in Europe are constrained and anyway the European goods are happy where they are or are only interested in the big time Charlies who can afford the lifestyle. Stoke City aren't a Premiership club anymore. We're just another mid table Championship with hopes of promotion and the only way out is to recognise where we're at, deal with the realities of the situation and scrap our way out with the quality of players we can afford and attract - which player for player will be worse than what we've been used to for the last 13 years. So what we're saying then is we can only shop in England, Ireland, Wales & Scotland? I was led to believe brexit closed some markets but opened others, infact I'm pretty sure that's the case. Seen enough shit stoke performances over the last 6 or so years so expect some good signings for a change. We've just sold a player for £15m and although the window is far from shit the early signs are we are looking at players that won't improve a shit team. It's all good & exciting signing players we've never heard of but if they're crap it's not all so good is it. Brexit has opened up other markets apart from the british Isles, we knew it was happening so why arn't we looking in them? when the window closes you will see much less, compared to pre Brexit days) s foreign imports coming into the Championship as the cheaper foreign players who Championship have attracted up to now (i.e. not superstars with millions of caps from top ranked nations) by & large will now be subject to work permit issues which as we know is a lottery * Brentford's model of signing Danish players has served them well, another club wanting to emulate that will find it much harder now as work permits will be required where they went before from a football point of view which non EU markets have now opened up?this means more UK players being signed by Championship clubs which in turn means prices for UK players going up which leave the conclusion that the best money spent would be on the Academy & produce our own players > at the moment we have a manager who will give young players a chance, I think as a club we need to improve on securing development loans but that's another story * bear in mind that Tony Scholes always attends work permit hearings so given we fail to secure work permits where other clubs do manage to secure them, then that's an area you can point at him specifically at & say 'not good enough'
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 14:27:04 GMT
Norwich signed Pukki on a free transfer from Sweden, where is our Pukki? Havn't a clue where to start, have we. We are useless in the British Market and can't point to Sweden on a map.
A club with a tiny budget should have a large knowledge of players, it's their job to know these markets and utilise them. Its no coincidence this lad is Northern Irish imo
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 14:43:33 GMT
So what we're saying then is we can only shop in England, Ireland, Wales & Scotland? I was led to believe brexit closed some markets but opened others, infact I'm pretty sure that's the case. Seen enough shit stoke performances over the last 6 or so years so expect some good signings for a change. We've just sold a player for £15m and although the window is far from shit the early signs are we are looking at players that won't improve a shit team. It's all good & exciting signing players we've never heard of but if they're crap it's not all so good is it. Brexit has opened up other markets apart from the british Isles, we knew it was happening so why arn't we looking in them? when the window closes you will see much less, compared to pre Brexit days) s foreign imports coming into the Championship as the cheaper foreign players who Championship have attracted up to now (i.e. not superstars with millions of caps from top ranked nations) by & large will now be subject to work permit issues which as we know is a lottery * Brentford's model of signing Danish players has served them well, another club wanting to emulate that will find it much harder now as work permits will be required where they went before from a football point of view which non EU markets have now opened up?this means more UK players being signed by Championship clubs which in turn means prices for UK players going up which leave the conclusion that the best money spent would be on the Academy & produce our own players > at the moment we have a manager who will give young players a chance, I think as a club we need to improve on securing development loans but that's another story * bear in mind that Tony Scholes always attends work permit hearings so given we fail to secure work permits where other clubs do manage to secure them, then that's an area you can point at him specifically at & say 'not good enough' I don't know what them markets are, I thought some South American and others have opened up. I definatly read that some had closed but others had opened though. New markets mean new opportunities for those willing to look
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Post by gawa on Jun 28, 2021 14:48:57 GMT
Norwich signed Pukki on a free transfer from Sweden, where is our Pukki? Havn't a clue where to start, have we. We are useless in the British Market and can't point to Sweden on a map. A club with a tiny budget should have a large knowledge of players, it's their job to know these markets and utilise them. Its no coincidence this lad is Northern Irish imo Pukki had an unsuccessful spell at "League One" Celtic, why would you want a player who failed at a League One side. You'd be better of trying to sign a Jamaican bobsleigher. And as others have mentioned, brexit has closed alot of doors. But at least it stops those pesky immigrants from taking our jobs now. Maybe time for you to get the boots out yyy?
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 14:50:03 GMT
Norwich signed Pukki on a free transfer from Sweden, where is our Pukki? Havn't a clue where to start, have we. We are useless in the British Market and can't point to Sweden on a map. A club with a tiny budget should have a large knowledge of players, it's their job to know these markets and utilise them. Its no coincidence this lad is Northern Irish imo Pukki had an unsuccessful spell at "League One" Celtic, why would you want a player who failed at a League One side. You'd be better of trying to sign a Jamaican bobsleigher. And as others have mentioned, brexit has closed alot of doors. But at least it stops those pesky immigrants from taking our jobs now. Maybe time for you to get the boots out yyy? His goal record might sway it. For the record, I'm not a remoaner
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Post by lordb on Jun 28, 2021 15:02:59 GMT
when the window closes you will see much less, compared to pre Brexit days) s foreign imports coming into the Championship as the cheaper foreign players who Championship have attracted up to now (i.e. not superstars with millions of caps from top ranked nations) by & large will now be subject to work permit issues which as we know is a lottery * Brentford's model of signing Danish players has served them well, another club wanting to emulate that will find it much harder now as work permits will be required where they went before from a football point of view which non EU markets have now opened up?this means more UK players being signed by Championship clubs which in turn means prices for UK players going up which leave the conclusion that the best money spent would be on the Academy & produce our own players > at the moment we have a manager who will give young players a chance, I think as a club we need to improve on securing development loans but that's another story * bear in mind that Tony Scholes always attends work permit hearings so given we fail to secure work permits where other clubs do manage to secure them, then that's an area you can point at him specifically at & say 'not good enough' I don't know what them markets are, I thought some South American and others have opened up. I definatly read that some had closed but others had opened though. New markets mean new opportunities for those willing to look still leaves the work permit issues, can look all they want pointless if no work permit
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Post by lordb on Jun 28, 2021 15:04:35 GMT
Norwich signed Pukki on a free transfer from Sweden, where is our Pukki? Havn't a clue where to start, have we. We are useless in the British Market and can't point to Sweden on a map. A club with a tiny budget should have a large knowledge of players, it's their job to know these markets and utilise them. Its no coincidence this lad is Northern Irish imo that was pre Brexit highly probable he wouldn't have got a work permit if same transfer was taking place now it's not all bad news we probably wouldn't have got a work permit form Imbula either post Brexit
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 28, 2021 15:12:19 GMT
The owners may have financed some crap signings in the past but it't the managers who identified and bought them in. The owner's don't - and shouldn't - have that much say in the choice of players. It's the manager - or the director of football or equivalent - who make the actual decisions. If we changed owners the same problems would exist and if we changed owners to a nieve idiot who was happy to throw money at the problem the club would no longer exist in 2 or 3 years time. We're shopping in the Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh branches of Lidl because they are cheaper than the English branches and because of Brexit our options for shopping in Europe are constrained and anyway the European goods are happy where they are or are only interested in the big time Charlies who can afford the lifestyle. Stoke City aren't a Premiership club anymore. We're just another mid table Championship with hopes of promotion and the only way out is to recognise where we're at, deal with the realities of the situation and scrap our way out with the quality of players we can afford and attract - which player for player will be worse than what we've been used to for the last 13 years. So what we're saying then is we can only shop in England, Ireland, Wales & Scotland? I was led to believe brexit closed some markets but opened others, infact I'm pretty sure that's the case. Seen enough shit stoke performances over the last 6 or so years so expect some good signings for a change, signings that can take control of a game and make a difference. We've just sold a player for £15m and although the window is far from shut the early signs are we are looking at players that won't improve a shit team. It's all good & exciting signing players we've never heard of but if they're crap it's not all so good is it. Brexit has opened up other markets apart from the british Isles, we knew it was happening so why arn't we looking in them? Scotland Premiership is the equivalent of League 1. Northern Ireland produce as many good footballers as Jamaica produces Bob sleighers, it's not a great combination. I think it's fair to say Northern Irish players are workhorses and not technically good footballers. You need an x factor to get promotion not just a team of workhorses. In what way has Brexit opened up the market for foreign players? It hasn't. It has made it more difficult to bring in EU players but it hasn't made it any easier to bring in foreign players who don't have EU passports. I think you are misunderstanding the trade deals we have done with countries like Australia. They are deals for trade in goods like biscuits, wine, Scotch whisky, cars, hormone fed beef, poultry kept imprisoned in tiny cages etc. - they don't include arrangements to import footballers!
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Post by questionable on Jun 28, 2021 15:18:55 GMT
So what we're saying then is we can only shop in England, Ireland, Wales & Scotland? I was led to believe brexit closed some markets but opened others, infact I'm pretty sure that's the case. Seen enough shit stoke performances over the last 6 or so years so expect some good signings for a change, signings that can take control of a game and make a difference. We've just sold a player for £15m and although the window is far from shut the early signs are we are looking at players that won't improve a shit team. It's all good & exciting signing players we've never heard of but if they're crap it's not all so good is it. Brexit has opened up other markets apart from the british Isles, we knew it was happening so why arn't we looking in them? Scotland Premiership is the equivalent of League 1. Northern Ireland produce as many good footballers as Jamaica produces Bob sleighers, it's not a great combination. I think it's fair to say Northern Irish players are workhorses and not technically good footballers. You need an x factor to get promotion not just a team of workhorses. In what way has Brexit opened up the market for foreign players? It hasn't. It has made it more difficult to bring in EU players but it hasn't made it any easier to bring in foreign players who don't have EU passports. I think you are confusing the trade deals we have done with countries like Australia. They are deals for trade in goods like biscuits, wine, Scotch whisky, cars, hormone fed beef, poultry kept imprisoned in tiny cages etc. - they don't include arrangements to import footballers! We’ve aced the internal donkey trade for the past few seasons, absolutely no need to look further afield for our players.
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 16:08:15 GMT
So what we're saying then is we can only shop in England, Ireland, Wales & Scotland? I was led to believe brexit closed some markets but opened others, infact I'm pretty sure that's the case. Seen enough shit stoke performances over the last 6 or so years so expect some good signings for a change, signings that can take control of a game and make a difference. We've just sold a player for £15m and although the window is far from shut the early signs are we are looking at players that won't improve a shit team. It's all good & exciting signing players we've never heard of but if they're crap it's not all so good is it. Brexit has opened up other markets apart from the british Isles, we knew it was happening so why arn't we looking in them? Scotland Premiership is the equivalent of League 1. Northern Ireland produce as many good footballers as Jamaica produces Bob sleighers, it's not a great combination. I think it's fair to say Northern Irish players are workhorses and not technically good footballers. You need an x factor to get promotion not just a team of workhorses. In what way has Brexit opened up the market for foreign players? It hasn't. It has made it more difficult to bring in EU players but it hasn't made it any easier to bring in foreign players who don't have EU passports. I think you are misunderstanding the trade deals we have done with countries like Australia. They are deals for trade in goods like biscuits, wine, Scotch whisky, cars, hormone fed beef, poultry kept imprisoned in tiny cages etc. - they don't include arrangements to import footballers! It has, I definatly read that certain players who were not in reach before brexit now will be.
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 16:10:19 GMT
I don't know what them markets are, I thought some South American and others have opened up. I definatly read that some had closed but others had opened though. New markets mean new opportunities for those willing to look still leaves the work permit issues, can look all they want pointless if no work permit I'd like to be able to find the new brexit rules I read regarding transfers, there are definatly other options post brexit that were not available before brexit
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Post by lordb on Jun 28, 2021 16:12:12 GMT
still leaves the work permit issues, can look all they want pointless if no work permit I'd like to be able to find the new brexit rules I read regarding transfers, there are definatly other options post brexit that were not available before brexit there was something about South America rules need to be made clear however if it comes down to work permit lottery I can't see it being exploited by any clubs very often
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 28, 2021 16:14:19 GMT
still leaves the work permit issues, can look all they want pointless if no work permit I'd like to be able to find the new brexit rules I read regarding transfers, there are definatly other options post brexit that were not available before brexit I think it's all very well to say we can just pick up players from South America but there are lot more considerations. The culture is so different in South America and not many South American players speak English. I think its generally more challenging to integrate South American footballers (compared to European players) into English football unless they have played in Europe for some time and had time to adjust.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 28, 2021 16:16:09 GMT
In what way has Brexit opened up the market for foreign players? It hasn't. It has made it more difficult to bring in EU players but it hasn't made it any easier to bring in foreign players who don't have EU passports. I think you are misunderstanding the trade deals we have done with countries like Australia. They are deals for trade in goods like biscuits, wine, Scotch whisky, cars, hormone fed beef, poultry kept imprisoned in tiny cages etc. - they don't include arrangements to import footballers! It has, I definatly read that certain players who were not in reach before brexit now will be. As I understand it the rules for signing foreign players is now virtually all based on their value - i.e. the more you pay the more likely they are to get a permit. That means in essence that the best foreign players will be within reach of Premier League clubs and the less accomplished ones will be outside the reach of clubs in the Football League. The days of bringing in a foreign player for bugger all (which was possible with some EU players) are now a memory. I presume that it will also drastically reduce (or eliminate?) the ability for clubs like ours to bring foreign youngsters into the Academy.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 28, 2021 16:16:32 GMT
still leaves the work permit issues, can look all they want pointless if no work permit I'd like to be able to find the new brexit rules I read regarding transfers, there are definatly other options post brexit that were not available before brexit Can you provide any actual evidence for this?
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 16:17:16 GMT
I'd like to be able to find the new brexit rules I read regarding transfers, there are definatly other options post brexit that were not available before brexit I think it's all very well to say we can just pick up players from South America but there are lot more considerations. The culture is so different in South America and not many South American players speak English. I think its generally more challenging to integrate a South American footballers (compared to European players) into English football unless they have played in Europe for some time and had time to adjust. It wasn't just south America, sure there were others, tevez come straight from America and hit the ground running along with another. Faustino Asprillia for Newcastle, Championship is a good place to introduce yourself to English football, find a success with a bit of panache and the big prem clubs would be tripping overthemselves to offer you tens of millions. South Americans are technically good with a ball
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 16:27:26 GMT
I'd like to be able to find the new brexit rules I read regarding transfers, there are definatly other options post brexit that were not available before brexit Can you provide any actual evidence for this? Can't remember where I saw it it might have even been a video of someone explaining it, I won't be the only person to have seen it. It's true though, I'm not making it up. Certain players are available post brexit that were not available before brexit, that's a fact. It might have actually been posted on here
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 16:32:45 GMT
South Americans have been signing for clubs in Russia and places like that for years. If they can settle in Russia they can settle in GB
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 16:37:28 GMT
I think it's all very well to say we can just pick up players from South America but there are lot more considerations. The culture is so different in South America and not many South American players speak English. I think its generally more challenging to integrate a South American footballers (compared to European players) into English football unless they have played in Europe for some time and had time to adjust. It wasn't just south America, sure there were others, tevez come straight from America and hit the ground running along with another. Faustino Asprillia for Newcastle, Championship is a good place to introduce yourself to English football, find a success with a bit of panache and the big prem clubs would be tripping overthemselves to offer you tens of millions. South Americans are technically good with a ball Asprilla scored a total on 9 league goals in three seasons... Tevez was one of the best pure strikers that Argentina had at that time. Why would a player in the top leagues of South America move their family to England to earn similar money in a city like Stoke in the hope that they may eventually get noticed? It's not just rare because clubs are lazy in their scouting, but also because there are a lot of reasons why a likely Spanish speaking player would have no interest in playing in a cold English speaking country.
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Post by yyy on Jun 28, 2021 16:41:28 GMT
It wasn't just south America, sure there were others, tevez come straight from America and hit the ground running along with another. Faustino Asprillia for Newcastle, Championship is a good place to introduce yourself to English football, find a success with a bit of panache and the big prem clubs would be tripping overthemselves to offer you tens of millions. South Americans are technically good with a ball Asprilla scored a total on 9 league goals in three seasons... Tevez was one of the best pure strikers that Argentina had at that time. Why would a player in the top leagues of South America move their family to England to earn similar money in a city like Stoke in the hope that they may eventually get noticed? It's not just rare because clubs are lazy in their scouting, but also because there are a lot of reasons why a likely Spanish speaking player would have no interest in playing in a cold English speaking country. South Americans have been signing in Russia and places like that for years, they move to progress their career. You nailed it when you suggested they wouldn't move to get noticed, a lot certainly would put themselves in a shop window, some come from shanty towns, they dream of playing for Europe's biggest clubs. Asprillia was more than a goalscorer, ask any Newcastle fan, he's a cult figure on tyneside. Watch his nufc vids on youtube and look at their comments
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 28, 2021 16:49:09 GMT
Can you provide any actual evidence for this? Can't remember where I saw it it might have even been a video of someone explaining it, I won't be the only person to have seen it. It's true though, I'm not making it up. Certain players are available post brexit that were not available before brexit, that's a fact. It might have actually been posted on here Oh well if you're not making it up it must be true. The only thing I can find is this which states: "An unexpected result of GBE may be increased interest from Premier League clubs in signing players from the Argentinian, Mexican and Brazilian leagues. Under the new GBE points system, leagues around the world are placed into bands and players performing in the higher bands can claim more points. It is estimated that more than 550 players from these three South American leagues currently meet the new criteria, could obtain a GBE and be soon winging their way to the English top tier. It is also understood that the new rules governing transfers from these countries are less stringent than before, and we expect to see these markets opening up." However this is only an advantage to Premier League clubs because the players who qualify are the very best - the sort of player EFL clubs can attract from these countries or any other aren't good enough to qualify. The article points out that EFL clubs will have to rely on home grown and home nation talent - which is exactly what we're doing. If you manage to dig out that video maybe you should forward it to the club - I'm sure they'd appreciate the advice.
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Post by gawa on Jun 28, 2021 17:17:17 GMT
Asprilla wasn't even signed from South America anyway. He came from Parma. I presume this relates to players signed directly from South America. Not South Americans already playing in Europe?
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