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Post by adri2008 on Jun 24, 2021 7:27:00 GMT
If Hungary can score two then we certainly can. We need to go after them and not be overly cautious.
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Post by franklin on Jun 24, 2021 7:29:08 GMT
If Hungary can score two then we certainly can. We need to go after them and not be overly cautious. Big IF that, we do have a track record of bottling it.
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Post by superalexneil on Jun 24, 2021 7:35:11 GMT
IF we beat germany we have the easier route to the final than we would have done finishing 2nd
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Post by questionable on Jun 24, 2021 7:43:43 GMT
Can absolutely beat these no problem whatsoever, what stood out last night was they were easily open against pace down their flanks and balls through the middle.
Over to you Gareth
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Post by questionable on Jun 24, 2021 7:46:33 GMT
We need to beat these at Wembley amd lay the ghosts of 96 to rest I’m confident we will win I was there and yes it’d be nice to get one over them
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Post by thevoid on Jun 24, 2021 7:57:56 GMT
If Macedonia and Hungary can score twice against them in Germany there's no reason why we can't at Wembley. But we need to step it up a gear. Hopefully Kane's been keeping his powder dry for the knock-outs
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2021 9:21:11 GMT
Embarrassing.....
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Post by yyy on Jun 24, 2021 9:24:15 GMT
We should beat them, we have a better team. On paper. The German machine starts to roll about now
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 9:26:42 GMT
Can absolutely beat these no problem whatsoever, what stood out last night was they were easily open against pace down their flanks and balls through the middle. Over to you Gareth Scored 2 goals so far. Can't see them beating anyone easily. I think a few getting carried away talking about routes to the final etc
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Post by jonnybravo on Jun 24, 2021 9:44:28 GMT
The German's always turn up for the big games no matter how bad they've played before..
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 24, 2021 9:55:55 GMT
Embarrassing..... A week of dull predictable references to the war.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2021 9:59:02 GMT
Embarrassing..... A week of dull predictable references to the war. Yep - meanwhile the Germans who aren't still obsessed with the war will continue their rivalries with the Dutch and Poland and not give us a second thought......
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 24, 2021 10:01:56 GMT
A week of dull predictable references to the war. Yep - meanwhile the Germans who aren't still obsessed with the war will continue their rivalries with the Dutch and Poland and not give us a second thought...... And then they knock us out. Again.
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Post by thehoof on Jun 24, 2021 10:13:57 GMT
God almighty- anybody would think Germany are actually good! They are absolutely garbage- I know what our “supporters” would be saying if we were hanging our hopes on a team that included a 500 year old Hummel, the 200 year old Kroos and Mueller! We are playing them at home with potentially no one of note to play until the Final. Get some spirit in you, you lilly livered, woke supporting bunch of Nancy’s!🥸
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 24, 2021 10:20:00 GMT
God almighty- anybody would think Germany are actually good! They are absolutely garbage- I know what our “supporters” would be saying if we were hanging our hopes on a team that included a 500 year old Hummel, the 200 year old Kroos and Mueller! We are playing them at home with potentially no one of note to play until the Final. Get some spirit in you, you lilly livered, woke supporting bunch of Nancy’s!🥸 😂😁😁
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2021 10:41:27 GMT
Let's face it, objectively, it's a coin-toss game - maybe England with a slight edge due to home advantage It's only our historical hang-ups that have led to this current inferiority complex sports.bwin.de/de/sports/events/england-deutschland-in-london-11745165?tab=scoreWe're even favourites with the German bookies! Eng 8/5 Ger 7/4 Draw 21/10 To win the trophy: Fra 15/4 Ita 11/2 Eng 6 Ger 13/2 Spa 8 Hol 9 Bel 9 Por 12 Den 18
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 24, 2021 10:45:43 GMT
We'll win. Sterling and Saka are perfect for this game so hopefully Southgate doesn't change it.
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 24, 2021 10:53:10 GMT
It is a game between a misfiring German team and an overly cautious England team so hard to see how it will play out. In the main I haven't been impressed by the way we've played so far so there must be room for improvement if all the hype around our 'attacking' options is true. We could certainly do with Kane switching on. The England defence concerns me though and I'm not convinced that the 3 clean sheets are anything other than luck based. We've looked vulnerable at the back in the last 2 games.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 11:00:48 GMT
We should beat them, we have a better team. On paper. The German machine starts to roll about now It does but we can't worry about that. Play the game with how we can and we should win with the attackers we have.
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2021 11:01:36 GMT
It is a game between a misfiring German team and an overly cautious England team so hard to see how it will play out. In the main I haven't been impressed by the way we've played so far so there must be room for improvement if all the hype around our 'attacking' options is true. We could certainly do with Kane switching on. The England defence concerns me though and I'm not convinced that the 3 clean sheets are anything other than luck based. We've looked vulnerable at the back in the last 2 games. have we? nah
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 24, 2021 11:02:52 GMT
It is a game between a misfiring German team and an overly cautious England team so hard to see how it will play out. In the main I haven't been impressed by the way we've played so far so there must be room for improvement if all the hype around our 'attacking' options is true. We could certainly do with Kane switching on. The England defence concerns me though and I'm not convinced that the 3 clean sheets are anything other than luck based. We've looked vulnerable at the back in the last 2 games. have we? nah I disagree
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 24, 2021 11:08:03 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 11:11:51 GMT
It is a game between a misfiring German team and an overly cautious England team so hard to see how it will play out. In the main I haven't been impressed by the way we've played so far so there must be room for improvement if all the hype around our 'attacking' options is true. We could certainly do with Kane switching on. The England defence concerns me though and I'm not convinced that the 3 clean sheets are anything other than luck based. We've looked vulnerable at the back in the last 2 games. have we? nah For 60 minutes against the Czech's throught the middle looked vulnerable tbh. They were going past Rice and Phillips like they weren't and we had too many harem scarem moments at the back for my liking. But most people seem to think Stones and Maguire played well. Thought they were ok at best.
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 24, 2021 11:11:53 GMT
We've haven't come up against decent opposition yet and we were very poor indeed against the lowly Scotland team. I think I'll keep my expectations low for the time being 😁
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Post by cousindupree on Jun 24, 2021 11:21:15 GMT
Although we don't look anything like good enough to make the final, the draw has been kind to us (we avoid France belgium and Italy) added to that games at home, we have a golden opportunity to progress deep into the competition. Southgate really now has to give it a go otherwise we are destined to go out at some stage on penalties after a 0-0 draw.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 11:29:25 GMT
Got a ticket for the match Can’t wait See you down there!
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Post by noustie on Jun 24, 2021 11:38:13 GMT
Just found out wife has booked a week holiday south of the border starting the weekend of the fucking final - beat Germany and can see you boys making it all the way. 'I'm staying home; I'm staying home; Noustie's staying home'
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 24, 2021 11:43:56 GMT
It is a game between a misfiring German team and an overly cautious England team so hard to see how it will play out. In the main I haven't been impressed by the way we've played so far so there must be room for improvement if all the hype around our 'attacking' options is true. We could certainly do with Kane switching on. The England defence concerns me though and I'm not convinced that the 3 clean sheets are anything other than luck based. We've looked vulnerable at the back in the last 2 games. have we? nah Well if they carry on fannying around at the back along the lines of, Pickford to Stones to Maguire to Stones to Shaw to Stones to Maguire to Walker to Pickford to Maguire to Stones to Shaw to Stones to Maguire to Walker to Maguire to Pickford , we'll get picked off right away. THats just inviting unecassary pressure. None of our back 4 look comfortable on the ball or getting their head up and making a telling through pass for either Gralish or Foden to spin off of and play a first time pass. If we can get Grealish and that Saka youth , or Sancho running at them, THEN we have some sort of threat. This is Southgates 'redemption' moment right here......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 11:56:18 GMT
Embarrassing..... To think people buy that shite
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2021 12:42:19 GMT
Well if they carry on fannying around at the back along the lines of, Pickford to Stones to Maguire to Stones to Shaw to Stones to Maguire to Walker to Pickford to Maguire to Stones to Shaw to Stones to Maguire to Walker to Maguire to Pickford , we'll get picked off right away. THats just inviting unecassary pressure. None of our back 4 look comfortable on the ball or getting their head up and making a telling through pass for either Gralish or Foden to spin off of and play a first time pass. If we can get Grealish and that Saka youth , or Sancho running at them, THEN we have some sort of threat. This is Southgates 'redemption' moment right here...... going to have to disagree with the suggestion that 'none of our back 4 look comfortable on the ball' > the exact opposite is the case (unless Mings is playing) not playing the positive pass (quickly) is a different matter, they are capable of it & do it for their clubs regular & have done it for England before- last time out Shaw was very positive (Walker still too negative) whilst both Maguire &b Stones drove forward (second half anyway) with the ball the extra cautiousness we've seen so far isn't set in stone, would expect the management to instruct the team to get the ball quicker to the forwards for this game, don't doubt it what happens later when we play France, Belgium, Italy or even Holland is another matter would anticipate the caution to come right back in
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