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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 20, 2021 20:35:58 GMT
Pickford Trippier Stones Maguire Shaw Phillips Bellingham Sancho Foden Grealish Rashford Rashford is right out of form If dropping Kane it should be Calvert Lewin I want Rashford in and I’ve changed my mind re Grealish. Sterling in 😂
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Post by numpty40 on Jun 20, 2021 20:59:19 GMT
I think somehow you have to play our two most creative players, Grealish and Foden and by doing that you have to play our best two defensive midfield players, Rice and Phillips.
Pickford
Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Phillips Rice
Sterling Grealish Foden
Kane
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 20, 2021 21:03:27 GMT
Southgate has already confirmed Kane will play hasn’t he? Why he would come out and say that I have no idea
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Post by cdf on Jun 20, 2021 21:06:09 GMT
I would give anything a draw on Tuesday.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 20, 2021 21:09:28 GMT
I think somehow you have to play our two most creative players, Grealish and Foden and by doing that you have to play our best two defensive midfield players, Rice and Phillips. Pickford Walker Stones Maguire Shaw Phillips Rice Sterling Grealish Foden Kane Good team. I see and hear people waxing lyrical about Mason Mount but I must be the only one who doesn’t see what the big deal is with him?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 21:10:45 GMT
I kinfd of fancy the Czechs in the current climate. They look ok up top and the best of the 4 sides in the group but not a great boast to date.
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Post by lordb on Jun 20, 2021 21:12:31 GMT
I kinfd of fancy the Czechs in the current climate. They look ok up top and the best of the 4 sides in the group but not a great boast to date. Wide open at the back though They will play defensively though. England will win this match
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 21:30:52 GMT
I kinfd of fancy the Czechs in the current climate. They look ok up top and the best of the 4 sides in the group but not a great boast to date. Wide open at the back though They will play defensively though. England will win this match True but England have scored once and created next to nothing. Not sure they'll play defensively. They have 4 points and should qualify
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 20, 2021 23:26:33 GMT
We need to win this in comfort. It'd blow away some of the darkness of the Scotland ennui.
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Post by mutters on Jun 20, 2021 23:30:32 GMT
I like a few others on here had tickets for the match, my mate who arranged them had an email this morning saying that some tickets for this match had become available and he could apply for them, the original ones were 50 euro's, now we can have them for 185 euro's the robbing bast#rds! Was that via ESTC?
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 21, 2021 6:32:00 GMT
I like a few others on here had tickets for the match, my mate who arranged them had an email this morning saying that some tickets for this match had become available and he could apply for them, the original ones were 50 euro's, now we can have them for 185 euro's the robbing bast#rds! Was that via ESTC? No Uefa.
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Post by stokie1947 on Jun 21, 2021 8:07:32 GMT
a draw for me would be a great result also means those Jocks are out win win
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 21, 2021 8:32:03 GMT
Southgate has already confirmed Kane will play hasn’t he? Why he would come out and say that I have no idea To take a little bit of pressure off him and bolster his confidence a bit.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 21, 2021 8:33:49 GMT
Southgate has already confirmed Kane will play hasn’t he? Why he would come out and say that I have no idea To take a little bit of pressure off him and bolster his confidence a bit. Venables did it with Shearer before Euro '96 for the same reasons. Assured him that despite the form of Fowler and Ferdinand that he'd be the one to start up front. I can see a case for starting DCL or even Foden as a false 9, but if doing this helps Kane, I can understand why he's doing it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 21, 2021 8:34:46 GMT
a draw for me would be a great result also means those Jocks are out win win If they beat Croatia they're pretty much through regardless I think?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 21, 2021 8:40:04 GMT
If the Czechs get into similar crossing/attacking positions Scotland did then we're bang in trouble.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 21, 2021 8:49:45 GMT
To take a little bit of pressure off him and bolster his confidence a bit. Venables did it with Shearer before Euro '96 for the same reasons. Assured him that despite the form of Fowler and Ferdinand that he'd be the one to start up front. I can see a case for starting DCL or even Foden as a false 9, but if doing this helps Kane, I can understand why he's doing it. Kane has been so deep in the first two games. Has he been a false 9?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 21, 2021 8:53:12 GMT
Southgate has already confirmed Kane will play hasn’t he? Why he would come out and say that I have no idea Yes, it makes no sense at all to divulge who your centre forward will be 48 hours before kick off. So, I hope he was lying, but I am afraid that he wasn't.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 21, 2021 8:54:25 GMT
If the Czechs get into similar crossing/attacking positions Scotland did then we're bang in trouble. Agree. With better finishing Scotland would’ve got the win they deserved.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 21, 2021 8:56:18 GMT
Southgate has already confirmed Kane will play hasn’t he? Why he would come out and say that I have no idea To take a little bit of pressure off him and bolster his confidence a bit. I am not sure in the circumstances that it takes any pressure off Kane. He'll now have two days to read papers, and websites which are full of questions as to why he is starting after two pretty anonymous performances. I hope I am wrong and that he makes me eat my words by scoring a hat trick tomorrow - but I doubt he will.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 21, 2021 8:56:50 GMT
Venables did it with Shearer before Euro '96 for the same reasons. Assured him that despite the form of Fowler and Ferdinand that he'd be the one to start up front. I can see a case for starting DCL or even Foden as a false 9, but if doing this helps Kane, I can understand why he's doing it. Kane has been so deep in the first two games. Has he been a false 9? I don't think so, I get the impression he's just off the pace and frustrated at a lack of service so he's taken it upon himself to drop deep and forage for it himself. He often drops very deep for Spurs as well and is involved in their build-up play, but for England he's running into the same spaces that Mount and Foden want to be in. Our forward play has been pretty disjointed bar 20 minutes against Croatia.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 21, 2021 8:57:51 GMT
To take a little bit of pressure off him and bolster his confidence a bit. I am not sure in the circumstances that it takes any pressure off Kane. He'll now have two days to read papers, and websites which are full of questions as to why he is starting after two pretty anonymous performances. I hope I am wrong and that he makes me eat my words by scoring a hat trick tomorrow - but I doubt he will. Maybe it will, but again, it wasn't an issue for Shearer, who'd gone nearly two years without scoring for England. Some strikers benefit from that reassurance.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jun 21, 2021 8:59:33 GMT
Kane has been so deep in the first two games. Has he been a false 9? I don't think so, I get the impression he's just off the pace and frustrated at a lack of service so he's taken it upon himself to drop deep and forage for it himself. He often drops very deep for Spurs as well and is involved in their build-up play, but for England he's running into the same spaces that Mount and Foden want to be in. Our forward play has been pretty disjointed bar 20 minutes against Croatia. Exactly how I see it. He needs to stay up front and those around him need to be doing their jobs better.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 21, 2021 9:06:08 GMT
Kane has been so deep in the first two games. Has he been a false 9? I don't think so, I get the impression he's just off the pace and frustrated at a lack of service so he's taken it upon himself to drop deep and forage for it himself. He often drops very deep for Spurs as well and is involved in their build-up play, but for England he's running into the same spaces that Mount and Foden want to be in. Our forward play has been pretty disjointed bar 20 minutes against Croatia. He needs to stay forward. Respect to him going looking for the ball. But he’s a forward and needs to stay up front trying to get between central defenders and sniffing out chances. Sometimes a striker doing too much deep off the ball is a form of indiscipline.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2021 9:08:37 GMT
Would help if they actually created something. Mount seem unable to put a ball beyond the nearest player and Sterling was utterly hopeless v Scotland. They'll get more space than v Scotland but will also be put under more pressure at times. Agree with Mr Maestro above
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 21, 2021 9:15:27 GMT
Hope we can make more use of the bloody corners.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 21, 2021 10:25:07 GMT
Kane needs someone close to him who can run beyond him, and that's Rashford for me. Mount has played a full 90 both games, as has Sterling and I'd look to change one of them if not both as Grealish and Foden offer more. My concern is that we may go to three at the back to integrate McGuire. And don't be surprised to see Henderson play a part. I'd go Rashford, Kane and Foden backed by Rice, Henderson and Grealish.
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Post by hardcastle on Jun 21, 2021 14:16:48 GMT
Kane needs crosses, hence Chilwell and Trippier at full back please.
(I'm not holding my breath, though)
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jun 21, 2021 14:23:20 GMT
Hopefully today’s results go in our favour. We need Ukraine v Austria not to end in a draw and then Belgium to beat Finland (or if Finland draw we need Denmark to beat Russia). If that all happens we’re through regardless what happens in our game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2021 14:57:37 GMT
Pure myth that finishing 2nd hands us the better route.
Finish 1st - Most likely opponent is Germany, at Wembley, but it sets up a 1/4 final against Sweden/Scotland/Slovaks, leading to a potential semi vs Netherlands/Portugal/Wales, Finish 2nd - Spain in the R16, away in Copenhagen. Then a 1/4 final against France. Also Italy's side of the draw.
Finish top, play at Wembley, best chance of beating Germany, then the route to the final is very very do-able, it's a no-brainer.
This is dependent on Sweden beating Poland which I very much expect. Even a draw might do it. France to beat Portugal too.
Finishing 1st is even more attractive if the Hungarians can do a job on the Germans.
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