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Post by RAF on May 2, 2021 12:50:06 GMT
What's all the fuss about? Process is working, watch players 20 times etc etc repeat to fade. Utter bullshit from incompetent owners who still employ a man who if he had been at any other company would have been sacked the minute we got relegated. Rotten to the fucking core, absolute fucking disgrace.
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2021 13:08:37 GMT
John Coates is the joint-CEO of Bet365 and they seem to perform quite well. I think with respect you are missing the point Deliah Smith , majority shareholder of Norwich FC ( with her husband), knows a lot about making millions from TV deals and book deals , not to mention how to make a lemon meringue But she is more than aware that both herself and her husband , no jack about football , which is why Norwich have Stuart Webber as sporting director ( effectively director of football ) and Daniel farke as team manager The cost to Denise of not taking this route and letting John coates play with his toy train set is staggering We all know the staggering cost of letting JC play with his train set The article below highlights the difference of doing it the Norwich way norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2020/10/13/daniel-farke-and-stuart-webber-under-pressure-at-norwich/Great article - thanks. I’d give my eye teeth to have such a professional management and executive set-up here at Stoke - but we have a narcissistic manipulative CEO and an owner who is as thick as mince -“ let’s be ‘avin yer......”
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Post by Godo on May 2, 2021 23:59:52 GMT
The fact that Scholes is still in a job having overseen this assemblage of over the hill donkeys, shithouses who don't want to play for us and division 1 standard players tells you that this club will never re-structure with the dumb one of the Coates bloodline at the helm. Amateurs.
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Post by clarkeda on May 3, 2021 5:59:57 GMT
John Coates is the joint-CEO of Bet365 and they seem to perform quite well. I think with respect you are missing the point Deliah Smith , majority shareholder of Norwich FC ( with her husband), knows a lot about making millions from TV deals and book deals , not to mention how to make a lemon meringue But she is more than aware that both herself and her husband , no jack about football , which is why Norwich have Stuart Webber as sporting director ( effectively director of football ) and Daniel farke as team manager The cost to Denise of not taking this route and letting John coates play with his toy train set is staggering We all know the staggering cost of letting JC play with his train set The article below highlights the difference of doing it the Norwich way norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2020/10/13/daniel-farke-and-stuart-webber-under-pressure-at-norwich/Listen to ‘the high performance podcast’ with Stuart Webber if you want to see the impact someone can make. You’ve gotta let them though. Having said that though we’d hire someone shit.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 3, 2021 8:55:57 GMT
I can't see how we'd attract a high quality Manager or Director of Football or Chief Executive until FFP is behind us. Anyone who is above average at any of those jobs would know that the constraints of FFP would make taking the Stoke job a big risk to have on their CV.
I really think we have to "grin and bear it" until the cloud that is FFP has dispersed. Hopefully, by then, MON's comparative willingness to give youth a chance (combined with a U23 squad which is clearly better than we have had for years) will have started to bear fruit. After FFP is behind us we can then make sensible decisions knowing that we will finally be competing on a level playing field who ever manages us as we attempt to rise like a Phoenix from the ashes.
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Post by gingerninja on May 3, 2021 9:06:45 GMT
Spot on Lakeland, as much as we are unhappy with how things have gone post Christmas, there is no way anybody will touch us with a barge pole until we are released from its grip.
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Post by christhepotter on May 3, 2021 9:29:33 GMT
Aren’t UEFA supposed to be making an announcement in the next few weeks regarding ffp ?
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Post by cheadlepotter on May 3, 2021 9:45:24 GMT
After FFP is behind us we can then make sensible decisions knowing that we will finally be competing on a level playing field who ever manages us as we attempt to rise like a Phoenix from the ashes. 😂 I hope you’re taking the Michael, Lakeland! Under the current ownership things will never change and now Junior has taken over it’ll only get worse if anything. This club, and the area it’s in, has an attitude of “it’ll do” or “it is what it is”. It’s scared of change and thinks because something once worked fine that it should never be changed. That’s why we have an outdated attitude towards team management, transfers, and all the off the pitch stuff too. The current owners and Scholes are lucky that FFP exists as it gives them an excuse for the current shambles and inability to fix it (even though they caused it). And let’s face it if FFP didn’t exist and there was a bottomless pit we’d only be buying Hal Robson-Kanu for £12m.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 3, 2021 10:20:55 GMT
After FFP is behind us we can then make sensible decisions knowing that we will finally be competing on a level playing field who ever manages us as we attempt to rise like a Phoenix from the ashes. 😂 I hope you’re taking the Michael, Lakeland! Under the current ownership things will never change and now Junior has taken over it’ll only get worse if anything. This club, and the area it’s in, has an attitude of “it’ll do” or “it is what it is”. It’s scared of change and thinks because something once worked fine that it should never be changed. That’s why we have an outdated attitude towards team management, transfers, and all the off the pitch stuff too. The current owners and Scholes are lucky that FFP exists as it gives them an excuse for the current shambles and inability to fix it (even though they caused it). And let’s face it if FFP didn’t exist and there was a bottomless pit we’d only be buying Hal Robson-Kanu for £12m. If you were a good (i.e. clearly above average) manager/director of football/chief executive, of a football club would you come to Stoke at the moment? Or would you show how sensible you are - by saying "no thanks, I'll wait for a year or two so I can do my job without the metaphorical ball and chain of FFP locked around my ankle." EDIT: Would you also explain how the club could pay up the contracts of the manager and assistant manager and the Chief Executive at present, without getting even deeper into the mire that is FFP. If you can explain how to do it you are obviously more of a financial genius than I am - so congratulations!
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Post by cheadlepotter on May 3, 2021 10:33:51 GMT
😂 I hope you’re taking the Michael, Lakeland! Under the current ownership things will never change and now Junior has taken over it’ll only get worse if anything. This club, and the area it’s in, has an attitude of “it’ll do” or “it is what it is”. It’s scared of change and thinks because something once worked fine that it should never be changed. That’s why we have an outdated attitude towards team management, transfers, and all the off the pitch stuff too. The current owners and Scholes are lucky that FFP exists as it gives them an excuse for the current shambles and inability to fix it (even though they caused it). And let’s face it if FFP didn’t exist and there was a bottomless pit we’d only be buying Hal Robson-Kanu for £12m. If you were a good (i.e. clearly above average) manager/director of football/chief executive, of a football club would you come to Stoke at the moment? Or would you show how sensible you are - by saying "no thanks, I'll wait for a year or two so I can do my job without the metaphorical ball and chain of FFP locked around my ankle." EDIT: Would you also explain how the club could pay up the contracts of the manager and assistant manager and the Chief Executive at present, without getting even deeper into the mire that is FFP. If you can explain how to do it you are obviously more of a financial genius than I am - so congratulations! Sorry I totally agree with everything that you said that I didn’t quote. If I was a manager or the other jobs highlighted I wouldn’t go near the club now. It’s just that I don’t think things will be any better after next summer either.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 3, 2021 10:39:04 GMT
If you were a good (i.e. clearly above average) manager/director of football/chief executive, of a football club would you come to Stoke at the moment? Or would you show how sensible you are - by saying "no thanks, I'll wait for a year or two so I can do my job without the metaphorical ball and chain of FFP locked around my ankle." EDIT: Would you also explain how the club could pay up the contracts of the manager and assistant manager and the Chief Executive at present, without getting even deeper into the mire that is FFP. If you can explain how to do it you are obviously more of a financial genius than I am - so congratulations! Sorry I totally agree with everything that you said that I didn’t quote. If I was a manager or the other jobs highlighted I wouldn’t go near the club now. It’s just that I don’t think things will be any better after next summer either. They will be better once FFP is off our backs - not because we will necessarily have better management but because, without FFP, whoever our manager is, will not be operating at a financial disadvantage to most of the other clubs in the Championship. That doesn't mean we will necessarily outperform, but we will at least have the chance of performing on a level playing field, which is clearly not the case at the moment.
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Post by Squeekster on May 3, 2021 10:42:24 GMT
After FFP is behind us we can then make sensible decisions knowing that we will finally be competing on a level playing field who ever manages us as we attempt to rise like a Phoenix from the ashes. 😂 I hope you’re taking the Michael, Lakeland! Under the current ownership things will never change and now Junior has taken over it’ll only get worse if anything. This club, and the area it’s in, has an attitude of “it’ll do” or “it is what it is”. It’s scared of change and thinks because something once worked fine that it should never be changed. That’s why we have an outdated attitude towards team management, transfers, and all the off the pitch stuff too. The current owners and Scholes are lucky that FFP exists as it gives them an excuse for the current shambles and inability to fix it (even though they caused it). And let’s face it if FFP didn’t exist and there was a bottomless pit we’d only be buying Hal Robson-Kanu for £12m. Who do you think asks for the players we have? Do you think John and Tony sit down together picking the players for the managers? The managers go to the board with players they want and the board try to get them, transfer fee's will be decided by both parties and contracts are offered to players to get them to sign, all the board have done is back managers, managers are responsible for all the shit we have in the squad at minute, the club gambled to get back to the prem at first asking and it failed. I'd say apart from 2 or 3 players over the past 5 years the players at the time of signing most would agree we thought were decent signings.
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Post by liathroid on May 3, 2021 10:46:52 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on May 3, 2021 10:56:52 GMT
Sorry I totally agree with everything that you said that I didn’t quote. If I was a manager or the other jobs highlighted I wouldn’t go near the club now. It’s just that I don’t think things will be any better after next summer either. They will be better once FFP is off our backs - not because we will necessarily have better management but because, without FFP, whoever our manager is, will not be operating at a financial disadvantage to most of the other clubs in the Championship. That doesn't mean we will necessarily outperform, but we will at least have the chance of performing on a level playing field, which is clearly not the case at the moment. A situation that is totally self inflicted caused by the incompetence of the board and CEO, the club needs a root and branch overhaul until that happens the stench of failure will remain.
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Post by gingerninja on May 3, 2021 11:00:46 GMT
Corry Evans..wonder if MON might fancy a punt?..stalwart of his N Ireland team?.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 3, 2021 11:01:39 GMT
They will be better once FFP is off our backs - not because we will necessarily have better management but because, without FFP, whoever our manager is, will not be operating at a financial disadvantage to most of the other clubs in the Championship. That doesn't mean we will necessarily outperform, but we will at least have the chance of performing on a level playing field, which is clearly not the case at the moment. A situation that is totally self inflicted caused by the incompetence of the board and CEO, the club needs a root and branch overhaul until that happens the stench of failure will remain. I quite agree that it is totally self inflicted. But I still think that the time to recruit better staff from CEO downwards is after FFP is off our backs. Until then we won't get a selection of decent candidates applying. And, as I also said earlier, paying up contracts of financial/admin staff hits us just as much under FFP as paying up the contracts of underperforming players.
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Post by cheadlepotter on May 3, 2021 13:02:03 GMT
😂 I hope you’re taking the Michael, Lakeland! Under the current ownership things will never change and now Junior has taken over it’ll only get worse if anything. This club, and the area it’s in, has an attitude of “it’ll do” or “it is what it is”. It’s scared of change and thinks because something once worked fine that it should never be changed. That’s why we have an outdated attitude towards team management, transfers, and all the off the pitch stuff too. The current owners and Scholes are lucky that FFP exists as it gives them an excuse for the current shambles and inability to fix it (even though they caused it). And let’s face it if FFP didn’t exist and there was a bottomless pit we’d only be buying Hal Robson-Kanu for £12m. Who do you think asks for the players we have? Do you think John and Tony sit down together picking the players for the managers? The managers go to the board with players they want and the board try to get them, transfer fee's will be decided by both parties and contracts are offered to players to get them to sign, all the board have done is back managers, managers are responsible for all the shit we have in the squad at minute, the club gambled to get back to the prem at first asking and it failed. I'd say apart from 2 or 3 players over the past 5 years the players at the time of signing most would agree we thought were decent signings. Brown - £2m on a player who had scored 3 goals in the previous season when it seems our pot wasn’t much bigger for the season Fletcher - free but clearly past his best and we knew of his fitness problems Gunn - for next season when we already have two competent keepers Afobe - £12m (in the championship!) for a forward who hadn’t scored 10+ goals in a season for years Ince - £10m (in the championship!) on a player with obvious problems McClean - £5m enough said Not enough? Ok we’ll go back but still within 5 years Wimmer £18m Zouma £7m for one year Berahino £12m And then there’s just over 5 years Imbula £15m. Now if manager picks these players then fair enough sack him. But some idiot sat there and ok’d an £18,000,000 transfer fee for a player that was signed by his club for £4m and played 15 games in two years and only because of injuries to other players. On what planet did that make sense? Yet it seems it’s only the manager that changes and those that choose the managers and ok the transfers are not held accountable. It’s a shit show and there’s no sign of any change.
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Post by dirtclod on May 3, 2021 13:50:10 GMT
As much as I hate FFP, it may be the only thing saving us right now. From our own incompetence. Look at our signing history.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 3, 2021 14:09:27 GMT
Who do you think asks for the players we have? Do you think John and Tony sit down together picking the players for the managers? The managers go to the board with players they want and the board try to get them, transfer fee's will be decided by both parties and contracts are offered to players to get them to sign, all the board have done is back managers, managers are responsible for all the shit we have in the squad at minute, the club gambled to get back to the prem at first asking and it failed. I'd say apart from 2 or 3 players over the past 5 years the players at the time of signing most would agree we thought were decent signings. Brown - £2m on a player who had scored 3 goals in the previous season when it seems our pot wasn’t much bigger for the season Fletcher - free but clearly past his best and we knew of his fitness problems Gunn - for next season when we already have two competent keepers Afobe - £12m (in the championship!) for a forward who hadn’t scored 10+ goals in a season for years Ince - £10m (in the championship!) on a player with obvious problems McClean - £5m enough said Not enough? Ok we’ll go back but still within 5 years Wimmer £18m Zouma £7m for one year Berahino £12m And then there’s just over 5 years Imbula £15m. Now if manager picks these players then fair enough sack him. But some idiot sat there and ok’d an £18,000,000 transfer fee for a player that was signed by his club for £4m and played 15 games in two years and only because of injuries to other players. On what planet did that make sense? Yet it seems it’s only the manager that changes and those that choose the managers and ok the transfers are not held accountable. It’s a shit show and there’s no sign of any change.Not to defend him particually, but would you have been happy if Scholes was having a say on signings beyond the financial impact to the club in the position it was in at the time? It wouldn't have sat well with me tbh.
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Post by cheadlepotter on May 3, 2021 14:18:24 GMT
Brown - £2m on a player who had scored 3 goals in the previous season when it seems our pot wasn’t much bigger for the season Fletcher - free but clearly past his best and we knew of his fitness problems Gunn - for next season when we already have two competent keepers Afobe - £12m (in the championship!) for a forward who hadn’t scored 10+ goals in a season for years Ince - £10m (in the championship!) on a player with obvious problems McClean - £5m enough said Not enough? Ok we’ll go back but still within 5 years Wimmer £18m Zouma £7m for one year Berahino £12m And then there’s just over 5 years Imbula £15m. Now if manager picks these players then fair enough sack him. But some idiot sat there and ok’d an £18,000,000 transfer fee for a player that was signed by his club for £4m and played 15 games in two years and only because of injuries to other players. On what planet did that make sense? Yet it seems it’s only the manager that changes and those that choose the managers and ok the transfers are not held accountable. It’s a shit show and there’s no sign of any change.Not to defend him particually, but would you have been happy if Scholes was having a say on signings beyond the financial impact to the club in the position it was in at the time? It wouldn't have sat well with me tbh. I’d rather Scholes didn’t have a say in anything. The same for Coates junior but I appreciate how daft that sounds when he’s the co-chairman.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 3, 2021 14:33:39 GMT
Red flags were supposedly raised on some of the bigger transfers but the manager was set on them and with the structure we have in place, there's little option but to back him or sack him in those situations.
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Post by Squeekster on May 3, 2021 15:21:14 GMT
Who do you think asks for the players we have? Do you think John and Tony sit down together picking the players for the managers? The managers go to the board with players they want and the board try to get them, transfer fee's will be decided by both parties and contracts are offered to players to get them to sign, all the board have done is back managers, managers are responsible for all the shit we have in the squad at minute, the club gambled to get back to the prem at first asking and it failed. I'd say apart from 2 or 3 players over the past 5 years the players at the time of signing most would agree we thought were decent signings. Brown - £2m on a player who had scored 3 goals in the previous season when it seems our pot wasn’t much bigger for the season Fletcher - free but clearly past his best and we knew of his fitness problems Gunn - for next season when we already have two competent keepers Afobe - £12m (in the championship!) for a forward who hadn’t scored 10+ goals in a season for years Ince - £10m (in the championship!) on a player with obvious problems McClean - £5m enough said Not enough? Ok we’ll go back but still within 5 years Wimmer £18m Zouma £7m for one year Berahino £12m And then there’s just over 5 years Imbula £15m. Now if manager picks these players then fair enough sack him. But some idiot sat there and ok’d an £18,000,000 transfer fee for a player that was signed by his club for £4m and played 15 games in two years and only because of injuries to other players. On what planet did that make sense? Yet it seems it’s only the manager that changes and those that choose the managers and ok the transfers are not held accountable. It’s a shit show and there’s no sign of any change. Hughes wanted Wimmer who he said at the time was one for the future so the board backed him no one could say he was not good enough as most hadn't seen him, Zouma was a loan and was a decent player and now first team at Chelsea, Berahino could of gone either way but That's a lot of money spunked by the MANAGER Imbula was a very good player but it turned out he was a dick again board backing the manager. When we signed Gunn we didn't have two fit keepers we had an u23 player on the bench Afobie,Ince I don't think many complained when we signed them, Mclean can be a dick but also has been very good for us until of late and as for us signing Wimmer for £18 mil when Spurs paid £4mil we paid £2 mil for Arnoutivic and sold him for £20 mil that's football. I wasn't really talking about MON signings as he has had his hands tied with FFP I'm just pointing out that Scholes who is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination is not the main reason where we are now and I'd sooner have the Coates family in charge of our club now and we'd better get used to it as no one will be buying it anytime soon.
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Post by cheadlepotter on May 3, 2021 15:30:28 GMT
Brown - £2m on a player who had scored 3 goals in the previous season when it seems our pot wasn’t much bigger for the season Fletcher - free but clearly past his best and we knew of his fitness problems Gunn - for next season when we already have two competent keepers Afobe - £12m (in the championship!) for a forward who hadn’t scored 10+ goals in a season for years Ince - £10m (in the championship!) on a player with obvious problems McClean - £5m enough said Not enough? Ok we’ll go back but still within 5 years Wimmer £18m Zouma £7m for one year Berahino £12m And then there’s just over 5 years Imbula £15m. Now if manager picks these players then fair enough sack him. But some idiot sat there and ok’d an £18,000,000 transfer fee for a player that was signed by his club for £4m and played 15 games in two years and only because of injuries to other players. On what planet did that make sense? Yet it seems it’s only the manager that changes and those that choose the managers and ok the transfers are not held accountable. It’s a shit show and there’s no sign of any change. Hughes wanted Wimmer who he said at the time was one for the future so the board backed him no one could say he was not good enough as most hadn't seen him, Zouma was a loan and was a decent player and now first team at Chelsea, Berahino could of gone either way but That's a lot of money spunked by the MANAGER Imbula was a very good player but it turned out he was a dick again board backing the manager. When we signed Gunn we didn't have two fit keepers we had an u23 player on the bench Afobie,Ince I don't think many complained when we signed them, Mclean can be a dick but also has been very good for us until of late and as for us signing Wimmer for £18 mil when Spurs paid £4mil we paid £2 mil for Arnoutivic and sold him for £20 mil that's football. I wasn't really talking about MON signings as he has had his hands tied with FFP I'm just pointing out that Scholes who is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination is not the main reason where we are now and I'd sooner have the Coates family in charge of our club now and we'd better get used to it as no one will be buying it anytime soon. To be fair I can’t criticise MON either as even if some players are called his signings, he’s fishing in a much emptier pond than his predecessors. The Gunn signing at the time made sense but extending it to next season doesn’t. I can’t remember the reception to the Afobe/Ince signings, just my reaction. And we signed Arnautovic for £2m, played him consistently for 4 years, he was excellent, and we sold him for a good profit. But do you reckon that if he’d played a handful of games in two years we’d have been able to sell him for £14m profit? Manager transfer choices have been poor at times but someone is ok’ing them. Anyone who even knows little about football would have been puzzled by the Wimmer one amongst others. We have idiots in charge.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 3, 2021 15:50:19 GMT
Too many people getting paid too much in nice and cosy jobs.
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Post by skelman on May 3, 2021 16:12:49 GMT
We're certainly short of a "factory reset" button, that's for sure!!! There is no factory reset to our ludicrous mismanagement situation. Players will not move as they are sitting on far more lucrative contracts at Stoke than they could achieve elsewhere. Cousins is the only out of contract player this summer. Sorry but we're sucking lemons for a good while yet!!!
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Post by Squeekster on May 3, 2021 18:08:35 GMT
Hughes wanted Wimmer who he said at the time was one for the future so the board backed him no one could say he was not good enough as most hadn't seen him, Zouma was a loan and was a decent player and now first team at Chelsea, Berahino could of gone either way but That's a lot of money spunked by the MANAGER Imbula was a very good player but it turned out he was a dick again board backing the manager. When we signed Gunn we didn't have two fit keepers we had an u23 player on the bench Afobie,Ince I don't think many complained when we signed them, Mclean can be a dick but also has been very good for us until of late and as for us signing Wimmer for £18 mil when Spurs paid £4mil we paid £2 mil for Arnoutivic and sold him for £20 mil that's football. I wasn't really talking about MON signings as he has had his hands tied with FFP I'm just pointing out that Scholes who is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination is not the main reason where we are now and I'd sooner have the Coates family in charge of our club now and we'd better get used to it as no one will be buying it anytime soon. To be fair I can’t criticise MON either as even if some players are called his signings, he’s fishing in a much emptier pond than his predecessors. The Gunn signing at the time made sense but extending it to next season doesn’t. I can’t remember the reception to the Afobe/Ince signings, just my reaction. And we signed Arnautovic for £2m, played him consistently for 4 years, he was excellent, and we sold him for a good profit. But do you reckon that if he’d played a handful of games in two years we’d have been able to sell him for £14m profit? Manager transfer choices have been poor at times but someone is ok’ing them. Anyone who even knows little about football would have been puzzled by the Wimmer one amongst others. We have idiots in charge. The contract surrounding the loan of Gunn is bizarre that's for sure,Arnie might of been here for 4 seasons but he certainly was good for for seasons, he was a one in three or four game player, when he was on it he was unplayable, when he wasn't he was crap. We don't have idiots in charge just some that have made mistakes in the genuine want to take us forward.
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Post by samuel32 on May 3, 2021 18:56:42 GMT
John Coates is the joint-CEO of Bet365 and they seem to perform quite well. I think with respect you are missing the point Deliah Smith , majority shareholder of Norwich FC ( with her husband), knows a lot about making millions from TV deals and book deals , not to mention how to make a lemon meringue But she is more than aware that both herself and her husband , no jack about football , which is why Norwich have Stuart Webber as sporting director ( effectively director of football ) and Daniel farke as team manager The cost to Denise of not taking this route and letting John coates play with his toy train set is staggering We all know the staggering cost of letting JC play with his train set The article below highlights the difference of doing it the Norwich way norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2020/10/13/daniel-farke-and-stuart-webber-under-pressure-at-norwich/Hit the nail on the head. All the successful teams seem to have a guy at the top making football decisions. Someone with power over the purse strings who's an expert in what they do and can think long term. I'll be honest, I don't really understand the nuts and bolts of what they do. But they seem to work, and what we're doing, well, hasn't. Something needs to change. Let's not get another Mark Cartwright in, clearly. Maybe that's what they're worried about? But right now, I'd be happy with fucking off Tony Scholes and replacing him with someone decent, and John Coates having some humility and admitting the board are changing with the times
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Post by a on May 3, 2021 19:03:29 GMT
Somebody confusing Football Manager with reality again I see 😂
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Post by yyy on May 4, 2021 7:22:12 GMT
Any idea how Edwards is getting on at NY red bulls, we have heard nothing
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Post by a on May 4, 2021 10:11:32 GMT
Any idea how Edwards is getting on at NY red bulls, we have heard nothing Don’t think he’s even made the bench yet according to SofaScore. I’m sure someone can explain why. They’ve a lad Kyle Duncan who has played RB in two games in a back four, then when they’ve gone back five they’ve used a RW Florian Valot. Don’t know why he’s not starting though...
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