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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 10, 2021 20:56:54 GMT
Thank you MON for saving my club from relegation last season. I said a few games ago that you were rapidly using up your credit. I now think it is time to go. I appreciate there are a load of players who have no ambition left, they are past there best, or just plain useless, but this season's performances have just got worse and worse. I can't remember a single game we have actually won where it was a convincing dominating performance. The buck stops with the manager. Why are there so many injuries? Something is serious wrong with the methods, concentration, application, etc. I can remember Liverpool winning the League using less players in a season than a modern club has on the field and bench in one match, and things were a lot rougher and tougher in those days. The players are going through the motions and so it now seems is the manager. Almost everyone is on lucrative contracts and never going to play for another club, so why bother? Apart from the odd youngster that is, but even Brown wasn't trying very hard today. There must be a falling out in the dressing room. Some players on very high pay are in danger of going through a whole season without a single goal or assist to their credit. If I was the owner I would bring in a new manager now, to give him time to look at the squad and decide what to do in the summer. If MON stays, which I'm certain he will, he should immediately ditch every player he does not plan to use next season and everyone over 30.I supported Hughes and Jones longer than I should have, and soon suspected Rowett was a fake, but I honestly now feel, you got lucky last season but don't have what is required to be a successful club manager. I hope I am wrong and have eat my words. And how exactly does he ditch them?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 10, 2021 20:58:09 GMT
He seems disgruntled to me ....I’d watch this space He’s certainly broken a bit of cover with the Powell story while it outs scholes in the spotlight I suspect it’s not in our best interests as a business for everyone to know just how fucked financially we are If you are Sean Dyche a low ball offer for any of the youngsters you fancy just for a invitation signal
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 10, 2021 21:05:01 GMT
He seems disgruntled to me ....I’d watch this space I think Ange annoyed him with the "i cant see any positives" so good on her for that. Its about time somebody told him its crap. She did and about time good on her, she's a fan and needs to reflect what we are all well nearly all are feeling and can see with our own eyes, can't see the owners being very happy but they need slapping out of their apathy, the football is shite.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 10, 2021 21:07:44 GMT
He seems disgruntled to me ....I’d watch this space It's probably a much bigger job than he envisaged with regards his hands being tied in the transfer market and I think that's showing, ultimately it's the money men that need to offload the expensive dead wood not the manager. It's just been a frustrating season for all of us the manager included......
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Post by werrington on Apr 10, 2021 21:08:52 GMT
He seems disgruntled to me ....I’d watch this space It's probably a much bigger job than he envisaged with regards his hands being tied in the transfer market and I think that's showing, ultimately it's the money men that need to offload the expensive dead wood not the manager. It's just been a frustrating season for all of us the manager included...... That after match interview was very interesting and coupled with his Powell comments I can see him fucking off in the summer mate
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Post by dadger on Apr 10, 2021 21:11:50 GMT
What did he say about Powell lads
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Post by harryh157 on Apr 10, 2021 21:13:09 GMT
Thank you MON for saving my club from relegation last season. I said a few games ago that you were rapidly using up your credit. I now think it is time to go. I appreciate there are a load of players who have no ambition left, they are past there best, or just plain useless, but this season's performances have just got worse and worse. I can't remember a single game we have actually won where it was a convincing dominating performance. The buck stops with the manager. Why are there so many injuries? Something is serious wrong with the methods, concentration, application, etc. I can remember Liverpool winning the League using less players in a season than a modern club has on the field and bench in one match, and things were a lot rougher and tougher in those days. The players are going through the motions and so it now seems is the manager. Almost everyone is on lucrative contracts and never going to play for another club, so why bother? Apart from the odd youngster that is, but even Brown wasn't trying very hard today. There must be a falling out in the dressing room. Some players on very high pay are in danger of going through a whole season without a single goal or assist to their credit. If I was the owner I would bring in a new manager now, to give him time to look at the squad and decide what to do in the summer. If MON stays, which I'm certain he will, he should immediately ditch every player he does not plan to use next season and everyone over 30.I supported Hughes and Jones longer than I should have, and soon suspected Rowett was a fake, but I honestly now feel, you got lucky last season but don't have what is required to be a successful club manager. I hope I am wrong and have eat my words. And how exactly does he ditch them? Have you never played one of those Footy Manager games? Tsk
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 10, 2021 21:13:44 GMT
It's probably a much bigger job than he envisaged with regards his hands being tied in the transfer market and I think that's showing, ultimately it's the money men that need to offload the expensive dead wood not the manager. It's just been a frustrating season for all of us the manager included...... That after match interview was very interesting and coupled with his Powell comments I can see him fucking off in the summer mate Anything's possible, I think like always a summer break does everyone good so maybe we're reading too much into things but you never know?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 10, 2021 21:13:54 GMT
As there is a clamour to play the “youngsters”. How about those making.the suggestion;
1. Naming the youngster and their age 2. Suggesting who they replace 3. How many starting appearances at U23 they’ve made this season 3. State how many times they’ve actually seen them play
Just interested
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 10, 2021 21:14:17 GMT
What did he say about Powell lads We can’t afford to extend his contract.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 10, 2021 21:14:20 GMT
What did he say about Powell lads Struggling to offer him a competitive contact extension because of FFP.....
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Post by dadger on Apr 10, 2021 21:16:34 GMT
What did he say about Powell lads Struggling to offer him a competitive contact extension because of FFP..... That’s him gone then ffs
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 10, 2021 21:17:33 GMT
It's probably a much bigger job than he envisaged with regards his hands being tied in the transfer market and I think that's showing, ultimately it's the money men that need to offload the expensive dead wood not the manager. It's just been a frustrating season for all of us the manager included...... That after match interview was very interesting and coupled with his Powell comments I can see him fucking off in the summer mate I have to say I’m coming to that conclusion also but for me it will be a massive upheaval that at this time the club cannot afford to go through again.Stability is a must especially with the impending FFP restrictions
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Post by Davef on Apr 10, 2021 21:19:44 GMT
He seems disgruntled to me ....I’d watch this space He’s certainly broken a bit of cover with the Powell story while it outs scholes in the spotlight I suspect it’s not in our best interests as a business for everyone to know just how fucked financially we are If you are Sean Dyche a low ball offer for any of the youngsters you fancy just for a invitation signal Everybody knows our financial situation. We've been in the Championship for three years, the parachute payments are finished and we still have several players on Premier League salaries.
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Post by werrington on Apr 10, 2021 21:20:57 GMT
That after match interview was very interesting and coupled with his Powell comments I can see him fucking off in the summer mate I have to say I’m coming to that conclusion also but for me it will be a massive upheaval that at this time the club cannot afford to go through again.Stability is a must especially with the impending FFP restrictions Like Prestwich said he’s probably getting frustrated with financial side of things ....but what I will say is he doesn’t help himself churning out that shite week after week mate
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Post by robrigo on Apr 10, 2021 21:22:54 GMT
He’s certainly broken a bit of cover with the Powell story while it outs scholes in the spotlight I suspect it’s not in our best interests as a business for everyone to know just how fucked financially we are If you are Sean Dyche a low ball offer for any of the youngsters you fancy just for a invitation signal Everybody knows our financial situation. We've been in the Championship for three years, the parachute payments are finished and we still have several players on Premier League salaries. Bloody depressing! What an absolute cock up we’ve made over the last five years.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 10, 2021 21:23:59 GMT
That after match interview was very interesting and coupled with his Powell comments I can see him fucking off in the summer mate I have to say I’m coming to that conclusion also but for me it will be a massive upheaval that at this time the club cannot afford to go through again.Stability is a must especially with the impending FFP restrictions Yet we still have a failed CEO on nearly £1m a year in position you really couldn't make this up.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 10, 2021 21:27:36 GMT
Everybody knows our financial situation. We've been in the Championship for three years, the parachute payments are finished and we still have several players on Premier League salaries. Bloody depressing! What an absolute cock up we’ve made over the last five years. What is all the fuss about talk about fiddling while Rome burns, how is it humanly possible for business people to run a business this incompetently ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 10, 2021 21:28:28 GMT
I have to say I’m coming to that conclusion also but for me it will be a massive upheaval that at this time the club cannot afford to go through again.Stability is a must especially with the impending FFP restrictions Like Prestwich said he’s probably getting frustrated with financial side of things ....but what I will say is he doesn’t help himself churning out that shite week after week mate His comments tonight about throw in’s are a sign of a manager that’s run out of things/excuses to say for poor/average performances.Thr end of the season can’t come quick enough for all of us never mind the manager.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 21:29:21 GMT
Struggling to offer him a competitive contact extension because of FFP..... That’s him gone then ffs I wouldn't think so. Powell's an intelligent man and if the explanation is good he'll accept it. He's been with one big money club and it was pure misery from which it took him a long time to recover. He's well aware than he's probably on occasion played some of the best football of his career here (although being inconsistent he's also been bad sometimes) and he may not be able to get that elsewhere. Of course he might, I repeat: might, hope Norwich or Brentford came in for him, but if they did, he would only be a fringe player, as they already have better players. Moreover he wants to stay in Cheshire, and how many good clubs are going to offer him that.
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Post by cdf on Apr 10, 2021 21:34:41 GMT
I wouldn't think so. Powell's an intelligent man and if the explanation is good he'll accept it. He's been with one big money club and it was pure misery from which it took him a long time to recover. He's well aware than he's probably on occasion played some of the best football of his career here (although being inconsistent he's also been bad sometimes) and he may not be able to get that elsewhere. Of course he might, I repeat: might, hope Norwich or Brentford came in for him, but if they did, he would only be a fringe player, as they already have better players. Moreover he wants to stay in Cheshire, and how many good clubs are going to offer him that. Dont kid yourself. If another club offer him a much better financial package he will be off
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Post by franklin on Apr 10, 2021 21:37:03 GMT
I have to say I’m coming to that conclusion also but for me it will be a massive upheaval that at this time the club cannot afford to go through again.Stability is a must especially with the impending FFP restrictions Like Prestwich said he’s probably getting frustrated with financial side of things ....but what I will say is he doesn’t help himself churning out that shite week after week mate But surely he would have known the situation when he was interviewed im sure he would have been told what budget he would have. Yes he would have liked to have moved a few on to assist him with recruiting but that was not a guarantee. My issue is he seems unable to motivate what he has to play and his recruits while admittedly cheap are arguably worse than what we already have/ had.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 21:42:57 GMT
That after match interview was very interesting and coupled with his Powell comments I can see him fucking off in the summer mate I have to say I’m coming to that conclusion also but for me it will be a massive upheaval that at this time the club cannot afford to go through again.Stability is a must especially with the impending FFP restrictions You have a way of jumping to conclusions, but one thing you can't say about MON is that he's a quitter. He knew exactly what he was in for. Of course it can get frustrating anyway and it may spill out in a post-defeat interview, but unless he's offered a secure position in the PL - which is doubtful - he can't get a more secure job than the one at Stoke. He knows how long it took to turn NI around but when they did it was very datisfactory. He'll want more of the same here. You're absolutely correct in saying the club can't afford another managerial change with more player turnover and more contracts to fulfill for players who don't want to be here. I don't think MON was hired to deliver promotion, like Rowett. MON was hired to oversee the re structuring of the club and to provide that stability. Like his football or not, he's actually done as well as could be expected and more as far as getting the club back on track. It's not pretty but it's necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 21:44:26 GMT
I wouldn't think so. Powell's an intelligent man and if the explanation is good he'll accept it. He's been with one big money club and it was pure misery from which it took him a long time to recover. He's well aware than he's probably on occasion played some of the best football of his career here (although being inconsistent he's also been bad sometimes) and he may not be able to get that elsewhere. Of course he might, I repeat: might, hope Norwich or Brentford came in for him, but if they did, he would only be a fringe player, as they already have better players. Moreover he wants to stay in Cheshire, and how many good clubs are going to offer him that. Dont kid yourself. If another club offer him a much better financial package he will be off Name me a lower league club in Cheshire that will offer him a better financial package.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 10, 2021 21:48:59 GMT
He seems disgruntled to me ....I’d watch this space I think Ange annoyed him with the "i cant see any positives" so good on her for that. Its about time somebody told him its crap. Well if he thinks he's above criticism after the last 5 months he deserves to be fired. I'm running out of patience with him and I'd be tempted to get rid if there aren't any signs he can turn this around before the end of the season.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 10, 2021 21:58:53 GMT
He’s certainly broken a bit of cover with the Powell story while it outs scholes in the spotlight I suspect it’s not in our best interests as a business for everyone to know just how fucked financially we are If you are Sean Dyche a low ball offer for any of the youngsters you fancy just for a invitation signal Everybody knows our financial situation. We've been in the Championship for three years, the parachute payments are finished and we still have several players on Premier League salaries. Not everyone knew we haven’t renewed Powell because we can’t afford to until the manager briefed it
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 10, 2021 22:01:30 GMT
We don't play well against teams that press us, we haven't got the quality of players at present to do so, we just end up lumping it. I am really not at all keen with this back 3 moving forward.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 10, 2021 22:13:33 GMT
Dont kid yourself. If another club offer him a much better financial package he will be off Name me a lower league club in Cheshire that will offer him a better financial package. He could go to Burnley , Sheffield United , WBA , Derby , Notts forest , and live in South Cheshire amd candidly all would be a better bet next year than us right now I’m not saying he would or any or all would want him bit we’ve just sent a signal they could get him
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Post by Davef on Apr 10, 2021 22:17:38 GMT
Everybody knows our financial situation. We've been in the Championship for three years, the parachute payments are finished and we still have several players on Premier League salaries. Not everyone knew we haven’t renewed Powell because we can’t afford to until the manager briefed it If any club is interested in Nick Powell, they know exactly what his situation is. I thought you were supposed to be on top of this kind of thing?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 10, 2021 22:20:05 GMT
Not everyone knew we haven’t renewed Powell because we can’t afford to until the manager briefed it If any club is interested in Nick Powell, they know exactly what his situation is. I thought you were supposed to be on top of this kind of thing? I’m on top enough to know it’s not good practice to wash dirty linen in public
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