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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 3:06:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 3:06:17 GMT
I think we can safely assume that we fall within the current FFP rules as things stand. You may be right, Muff, but on what are you basing your confidence? - these big earners, we have, have to be paid and even where we have clubs willing to take them on loan will probably be asking for a contribution towards their wage? Looks a little dicey to me. The fact we signed Alfie Doughty which I doubt we'd do if we were falling foul of FFP rules. We have a fair sized squad as it is and although a fair few out on loan we are still bringing some in on loan and the odd permanent one. Not like the players in on loan are from lower leagues etc . We have some great assets for a change and looks like more on the brink. ni a far more stable situation on and off the pitch maybe than some giving us credit for with a couple more exciting youngsters looking to break through.
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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 5:34:58 GMT
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Post by mattythestokie on Mar 23, 2021 5:34:58 GMT
Maybe But probably not Imho he's a little too sloppy for Premier League I agree he’s maybe not quite good enough for the premier league given the fact he’s in a position that teams are keen to spend 10s of millions on to get that game-changing player. I think our biggest worry would be the likes of West Brom/Newcastle getting relegated and coming in for him.
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Mar 23, 2021 9:26:18 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 23, 2021 9:26:18 GMT
to be fair if we get good money for one player which means us being able to strengthen in 2 or 3 areas I could understand .Don't want to see us lose our best players but in the long run it could make sense. If we sell Collins, we’ll have to rely on Ba’ath and Souttar, which is fine. However, if one of them gets injured the back-up is Chester. In theory we could use the money to strengthen other areas, however, that would be at the expense of weakening the one aspect of the game, defense, that we are very good at. Furthermore, we may not be able to use the money anyway, because it will be needed to balance the books to avoid FFP penalties. Lindsay will be back in the summer...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 23, 2021 9:28:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 9:53:08 GMT
to be fair if we get good money for one player which means us being able to strengthen in 2 or 3 areas I could understand .Don't want to see us lose our best players but in the long run it could make sense. If we sell Collins, we’ll have to rely on Ba’ath and Souttar, which is fine. However, if one of them gets injured the back-up is Chester. In theory we could use the money to strengthen other areas, however, that would be at the expense of weakening the one aspect of the game, defense, that we are very good at. Furthermore, we may not be able to use the money anyway, because it will be needed to balance the books to avoid FFP penalties. Nonsense. When MON selects the team Chester is first choice with Souttar, Batth is back up or third defender. But central defender is the least of our worries as we also have Forrester, who's already been promoted to the first team group, plus Macari and Taylor, who will be.
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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 9:54:05 GMT
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Post by themistocles on Mar 23, 2021 9:54:05 GMT
He'll have interest from other clubs . Why would he re-sign here ?
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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 10:02:13 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 10:02:13 GMT
He'll have interest from other clubs . Why would he re-sign here ? The same reason he chose us before maybe . Had Premier League interest then. Will certainly be sort after again though as you say
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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 13:21:21 GMT
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Post by hardcastle on Mar 23, 2021 13:21:21 GMT
Last 15 months of his contract? Need to get something sorted soonish, else we find ourselves in the Begovic / N'Zonzi situation and the player holds all the cards.
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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 16:04:44 GMT
Post by damagedswan on Mar 23, 2021 16:04:44 GMT
He's our most talented and most important attacking player by a country mile but I still wouldn't be that interested in him if I was a newly-promoted Premier League team.
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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 16:09:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 16:09:08 GMT
You would imagine Fulham , Sheffield United and west brom being interested
Sheffield United definitely need someone like him for a bit more invention and cutting edge in the final third next season .
Guaranteed goals and assists sounds attractive to anyone dropping from the prem to the championship
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 23, 2021 16:10:47 GMT
Cheshire to London is a twat though and tbh Sheffield wouldn't be fun for a daily commute either.
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Post by a on Mar 23, 2021 18:06:10 GMT
Cheshire to London is a twat though and tbh Sheffield wouldn't be fun for a daily commute either. We’ll be even more attractive in a few years if and when HS2 reaches us 😂
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Powell
Mar 23, 2021 18:08:00 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 23, 2021 18:08:00 GMT
Cheshire to London is a twat though and tbh Sheffield wouldn't be fun for a daily commute either. We’ll be even more attractive in a few years if and when HS2 reaches us 😂 Will reduce trains to London to 1 an hour though, so it's not that great for Stoke. Was just thinking actually, it's probably easier to get from South Cheshire to London than Sheffield. Lovely drive though.
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Post by magwitch on Apr 3, 2021 18:55:37 GMT
Powell needs a new contract NOW.
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Powell
Apr 3, 2021 19:05:26 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Apr 3, 2021 19:05:26 GMT
Powell needs a new contract NOW. Think he has a year left anyway!
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Powell
Apr 3, 2021 20:57:49 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 3, 2021 20:57:49 GMT
We’ll be even more attractive in a few years if and when HS2 reaches us 😂 Will reduce trains to London to 1 an hour though, so it's not that great for Stoke. Was just thinking actually, it's probably easier to get from South Cheshire to London than Sheffield. Lovely drive though. Except November to March!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 3, 2021 21:02:06 GMT
Will reduce trains to London to 1 an hour though, so it's not that great for Stoke. Was just thinking actually, it's probably easier to get from South Cheshire to London than Sheffield. Lovely drive though. Except November to March! My normal commute is on train and the biggest delays I’ve had (once in the railway system) have been in summer. Was stuck on a train just outside Crewe in August for 2 hours because the power lines failed. We had to walk down the track to awaiting taxis to Crewe 😂🤦♂️
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Powell
Apr 3, 2021 22:27:33 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Apr 3, 2021 22:27:33 GMT
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Apr 3, 2021 22:47:49 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 3, 2021 22:47:49 GMT
The biggest worry would probably be a team coming down from the Prem!!!
Just out of curiosity.... How accurate was that rumour about Newcastle's interest back in January??? 🤔 I honestly don't know to much about it???
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Post by walrus on Apr 3, 2021 23:12:38 GMT
He’s said quite recently in interviews (last year) that to him football comes a distant second to family in importance and also that he won’t be too bothered if he never plays in the Prem again.
It seems highly likely that he’ll want to stay within an easy commute of where he lives now, which significantly limits the pool of clubs that he would join.
There’s a rarely mentioned understanding that most footballers will happily uproot their lives every few years over the course of a career but Powell seems to reject this.
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Post by spitshaw on Apr 3, 2021 23:16:07 GMT
Davies, Collins, Soutts, Powell and Campbell need to be our spine for the foreseeable future. Losing any of them would be a massive loss and we should do everything possible to keep them together!
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 3, 2021 23:28:04 GMT
The whole article is based around incorrect information that Powell’s contract is up in the summer. He’s still got another 15 months left.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2021 1:49:59 GMT
And as if it’d happen 😂😂 fucking hate Forest for the very reason that article exist.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Apr 4, 2021 6:09:21 GMT
He’s said quite recently in interviews (last year) that to him football comes a distant second to family in importance and also that he won’t be too bothered if he never plays in the Prem again. It seems highly likely that he’ll want to stay within an easy commute of where he lives now, which significantly limits the pool of clubs that he would join. There’s a rarely mentioned understanding that most footballers will happily uproot their lives every few years over the course of a career but Powell seems to reject this. Exactly this, he’s paid very well I imagine he’s close to his family and truth be told he doesn’t seem ambitious about reaching the top again ( I mean fair enough really as long as he’s happy) Powell staying here seems to suit everyone
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Post by walrus on Apr 4, 2021 8:22:16 GMT
He’s said quite recently in interviews (last year) that to him football comes a distant second to family in importance and also that he won’t be too bothered if he never plays in the Prem again. It seems highly likely that he’ll want to stay within an easy commute of where he lives now, which significantly limits the pool of clubs that he would join. There’s a rarely mentioned understanding that most footballers will happily uproot their lives every few years over the course of a career but Powell seems to reject this. Exactly this, he’s paid very well I imagine he’s close to his family and truth be told he doesn’t seem ambitious about reaching the top again ( I mean fair enough really as long as he’s happy) Powell staying here seems to suit everyone Agreed. I read an interview with him where he said at Wigan he didn’t really care when they got relegated, but when his son was born he had a realisation that he had to try harder otherwise he could play the rest of his career in the lower leagues and miss the opportunity to make big wages from football and provide for his family. Stoke gives him those wages. I quite respect his approach. So often we hear footballers speak of an almost rabid desire to play at the highest possible level and win trophies, the flip side of which is the many stories of players whose lives fall apart because they’re not good at dealing with the pressure and lifestyle. 95% of people on the street would say that their career goals are to make a good wage doing something they enjoy. Frankly it would be weird if people in most professions constantly talked about their hunger to rise to the top and win awards in their industry. Powell seems to have the maturity to realise that football doesn’t have to be any different.
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Powell
Apr 4, 2021 9:02:31 GMT
Post by ravey123 on Apr 4, 2021 9:02:31 GMT
Exactly this, he’s paid very well I imagine he’s close to his family and truth be told he doesn’t seem ambitious about reaching the top again ( I mean fair enough really as long as he’s happy) Powell staying here seems to suit everyone Agreed. I read an interview with him where he said at Wigan he didn’t really care when they got relegated, but when his son was born he had a realisation that he had to try harder otherwise he could play the rest of his career in the lower leagues and miss the opportunity to make big wages from football and provide for his family. Stoke gives him those wages. I quite respect his approach. So often we hear footballers speak of an almost rabid desire to play at the highest possible level and win trophies, the flip side of which is the many stories of players whose lives fall apart because they’re not good at dealing with the pressure and lifestyle. 95% of people on the street would say that their career goals are to make a good wage doing something they enjoy. Frankly it would be weird if people in most professions constantly talked about their hunger to rise to the top and win awards in their industry. Powell seems to have the maturity to realise that football doesn’t have to be any different. I find that admitting that football is not his total life and a means to support his family a nice, refreshing and honest outlook. It all points to a happy and fulfilling life after football for him. Wayyyyyyy too many footballers lives fall apart when the fame, glamour ad game is removed when they retire. The aim should be to work to live not live to work - if you enjoy your work then all the better. Wasn't there a player at Spurs a few years ago (fullback from memory) who had the same outlook - ie didn't really like football but used his "gift" to earn good money and set his family up for life financially.
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Post by walrus on Apr 4, 2021 9:05:06 GMT
Agreed. I read an interview with him where he said at Wigan he didn’t really care when they got relegated, but when his son was born he had a realisation that he had to try harder otherwise he could play the rest of his career in the lower leagues and miss the opportunity to make big wages from football and provide for his family. Stoke gives him those wages. I quite respect his approach. So often we hear footballers speak of an almost rabid desire to play at the highest possible level and win trophies, the flip side of which is the many stories of players whose lives fall apart because they’re not good at dealing with the pressure and lifestyle. 95% of people on the street would say that their career goals are to make a good wage doing something they enjoy. Frankly it would be weird if people in most professions constantly talked about their hunger to rise to the top and win awards in their industry. Powell seems to have the maturity to realise that football doesn’t have to be any different. I find that admitting that football is not his total life and a means to support his family a nice, refreshing and honest outlook. It all points to a happy and fulfilling life after football for him. Wayyyyyyy too many footballers lives fall apart when the fame, glamour ad game is removed when they retire. The aim should be to work to live not live to work - if you enjoy your work then all the better. Wasn't there a player at Spurs a few years ago (fullback from memory) who had the same outlook - ie didn't really like football but used his "gift" to earn good money and set his family up for life financially. It was Benoit Assou-Ekotto at Spurs.
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Post by boweryboy on Apr 5, 2021 16:00:22 GMT
Those who are worried about a Premier League side coming in for him can relax....it ain't going to happen !!!
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Powell
Apr 5, 2021 16:01:55 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 5, 2021 16:01:55 GMT
For every bit of good he does, so much good play peters out from his misplaced pass etc.
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Powell
Apr 5, 2021 16:02:41 GMT
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 5, 2021 16:02:41 GMT
Worst game for us today.
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