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Post by mattyd2 on Mar 5, 2021 22:29:25 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid.
Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro.
Anyone got either, or are better options available.
Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax.
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Post by superjw on Mar 5, 2021 22:43:09 GMT
I've had loads of Toyota hybrids over the years and have one now. For me Toyota do hybrids better than anyone and the technology behind it is fantastic.
I don't know about the Kia, but Toyota hybrids are the "full" hybrid version, so it can drive in electric mode alone until the engine kicks in, some hybrids don't do that and are a glorified start stop system.
Only thing with hybrids is they do what they say on the tin, if you drive them like you have stolen it, you won't get the benefit of the mpg.
They aren't for everyone but I like them
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Post by neckender78 on Mar 6, 2021 8:42:54 GMT
I have Toyota Corolla company car, it's a nice simplistic drive which suits me.
Would certainly recommend
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 6, 2021 8:52:54 GMT
If you get a hybrid get a lock fitted that goes around the catalytic converter.
Where I work insure taxis and hybrid Toyota’s are prime targets for these thefts as their converters have less wear due to being hybrids, Toyota can’t replace spares fast enough so if it gets pinched you’re looking at at least a £1,200 bill minimum.
It’s not a massive problem around here yet but it’s growing rapidly, better to be safe than sorry.
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Post by Northy on Mar 6, 2021 9:28:04 GMT
I've got the Toyota C-HR at the moment, had it for 2 1/2 years, a very good car, in fact I'm off out today to look at others as it's due for change in August
Have you had a look at Hyundai ?
I'm thinking of going full electric, going to look at the Nissan Leaf range as one does a range of 239 miles
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 6, 2021 9:43:11 GMT
Love been a petrol head so for that reason I’m out , 430bhp RS Focus 12 to the gallon
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 6, 2021 9:47:10 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid. Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro. Anyone got either, or are better options available. Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax. Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. |
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Post by mattyd2 on Mar 6, 2021 12:30:55 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid. Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro. Anyone got either, or are better options available. Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax. Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. Why dont u ask em for car allowance and mileage instead. I'm gonna do that for next car in 3 or 4 yrs, but at the mo company car suits. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 6, 2021 12:38:33 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid. Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro. Anyone got either, or are better options available. Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax. Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. Could you not get a pick up truck? Loads of people at our place have them, if the payload is over a tonne they're classed as light commercial vehicles so you pay about 2/3rds less in tax. Not very eco friendly admittedly, my missus has a full blown electric car so not sure it would look good particularly having a Nissan Leaf sat next to a Nissan Navara in the drive  |
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 6, 2021 13:19:43 GMT
Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. Could you not get a pick up truck? Loads of people at our place have them, if the payload is over a tonne they're classed as light commercial vehicles so you pay about 2/3rds less in tax. Not very eco friendly admittedly, my missus has a full blown electric car so not sure it would look good particularly having a Nissan Leaf sat next to a Nissan Navara in the drive I’ve got a Nissan Navara Chuck anything In them , the only thing it’s diesel , I’m having a petrol 4x4 next so I can get it re mapped to 350/400 Bhp |
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 6, 2021 13:21:46 GMT
Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. Why dont u ask em for car allowance and mileage instead. I'm gonna do that for next car in 3 or 4 yrs, but at the mo company car suits. Ive looked into that but because i travel 30 miles to and from work a day (ie 60 private miles a day) the car and mileage allowance does not cover anywhere near my costs and have you tried getting a lease car when you do 40k miles a year. Others at work have these car allowances but the system only pays if you do loads of extra pointless business miles, this just encourages people to make pointless business journey's to get the money to pay for the car. With my 20k private and 20k business miles a year I'm just stuck in no mans land finance wise. At the moment the best option is to buy my own car and charge the company the work mileage (however , then I am stuck with a financial agreement should anything go tits up at work). I've worked out that its so bad that if I work locally for slightly above the minimum wage I will only be a couple of hundred quid a month worse off than having this professional management job with a company car - the tax system for company cars is bonkers if you actually need one. It was changed to deter those who had cars as "perks" - ie some managers who never travelled anywhere but it is hitting those of us that need company vehicles for work but don't live around the corner from the office. |
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 6, 2021 13:23:15 GMT
Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. Could you not get a pick up truck? Loads of people at our place have them, if the payload is over a tonne they're classed as light commercial vehicles so you pay about 2/3rds less in tax. Not very eco friendly admittedly, my missus has a full blown electric car so not sure it would look good particularly having a Nissan Leaf sat next to a Nissan Navara in the drive I thought about a pick-up but a lot of my miles are driving around cities like London, Manchester and Birmingham - trying to park one of those in city centres would be a nightmare. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 6, 2021 18:32:26 GMT
Why dont u ask em for car allowance and mileage instead. I'm gonna do that for next car in 3 or 4 yrs, but at the mo company car suits. Ive looked into that but because i travel 30 miles to and from work a day (ie 60 private miles a day) the car and mileage allowance does not cover anywhere near my costs and have you tried getting a lease car when you do 40k miles a year. Others at work have these car allowances but the system only pays if you do loads of extra pointless business miles, this just encourages people to make pointless business journey's to get the money to pay for the car. With my 20k private and 20k business miles a year I'm just stuck in no mans land finance wise. At the moment the best option is to buy my own car and charge the company the work mileage (however , then I am stuck with a financial agreement should anything go tits up at work). I've worked out that its so bad that if I work locally for slightly above the minimum wage I will only be a couple of hundred quid a month worse off than having this professional management job with a company car - the tax system for company cars is bonkers if you actually need one. It was changed to deter those who had cars as "perks" - ie some managers who never travelled anywhere but it is hitting those of us that need company vehicles for work but don't live around the corner from the office. When I worked in the civil service I travelled a lot had car allowance £3k a year plus 25p a mile lovely. |
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Post by dave1 on Mar 6, 2021 19:34:18 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid. Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro. Anyone got either, or are better options available. Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax. Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. In the next couple of months my job will be giving me a 6k allowance for a company car or could take the cash. I am sending a lease car back next so will need another car in time Speaking to a couple of lads at work (I don't really know the ins/outs of taking a company car) they say that if I get one off the list for £500/£525 I'm laughing ie it'll use all of allowance, and would get me a better car than if I was paying for the lease myself. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Right, wrong, am I missing something??? |
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 6, 2021 20:37:01 GMT
Could you not get a pick up truck? Loads of people at our place have them, if the payload is over a tonne they're classed as light commercial vehicles so you pay about 2/3rds less in tax. Not very eco friendly admittedly, my missus has a full blown electric car so not sure it would look good particularly having a Nissan Leaf sat next to a Nissan Navara in the drive I thought about a pick-up but a lot of my miles are driving around cities like London, Manchester and Birmingham - trying to park one of those in city centres would be a nightmare. Get nudge bars fitted to the front and a big fuck off towbar , you can park them anywhere, I’ve got a 17 plate Navara and just abandon it anywhere , I call it farmers parking |
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 6, 2021 21:47:00 GMT
Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. In the next couple of months my job will be giving me a 6k allowance for a company car or could take the cash. I am sending a lease car back next so will need another car in time Speaking to a couple of lads at work (I don't really know the ins/outs of taking a company car) they say that if I get one off the list for £500/£525 I'm laughing ie it'll use all of allowance, and would get me a better car than if I was paying for the lease myself. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Right, wrong, am I missing something??? Just make sure you check all the tax implications and that you make some money from the £/mile they will pay you to cover unforeseen costs (tyres, servicing, insurance etc). |
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Post by questionable on Mar 7, 2021 19:56:03 GMT
Love been a petrol head so for that reason I’m out , 430bhp RS Focus 12 to the gallon I’m deliberating over getting the M2 Competition |
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Post by Meggsy on Mar 7, 2021 20:27:06 GMT
This is great for lease deals www.leaseloco.com/I can get the ENiro for 400 a month including insurance and maintenance through the work scheme which is what I'm edging towards |
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 7, 2021 22:38:57 GMT
Why would anybody want to get an electric car ffs
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 7, 2021 22:55:08 GMT
Why would anybody want to get an electric car ffs I agree, it’s soul destroying and not the way forward. Can’t beat the sound of the internal combustion engine for me, my car is loud as fuck and I wouldn’t change it for the world. |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 8, 2021 0:25:53 GMT
Why dont u ask em for car allowance and mileage instead. I'm gonna do that for next car in 3 or 4 yrs, but at the mo company car suits. Ive looked into that but because i travel 30 miles to and from work a day (ie 60 private miles a day) the car and mileage allowance does not cover anywhere near my costs and have you tried getting a lease car when you do 40k miles a year. Others at work have these car allowances but the system only pays if you do loads of extra pointless business miles, this just encourages people to make pointless business journey's to get the money to pay for the car. With my 20k private and 20k business miles a year I'm just stuck in no mans land finance wise. At the moment the best option is to buy my own car and charge the company the work mileage (however , then I am stuck with a financial agreement should anything go tits up at work). I've worked out that its so bad that if I work locally for slightly above the minimum wage I will only be a couple of hundred quid a month worse off than having this professional management job with a company car - the tax system for company cars is bonkers if you actually need one. It was changed to deter those who had cars as "perks" - ie some managers who never travelled anywhere but it is hitting those of us that need company vehicles for work but don't live around the corner from the office. If you are doing 20k business miles a year that would be £7k in mileage allowance even if your company does not pay the 45p per mile for first 10,000 miles you can make a claim for the difference, you will be getting hammered for the private usage even more so if they pay for the fuel. You should be looking at whether the mileage and or car allowance cover the 20k business mileage and the servicing / maintenance any money above and beyind that is a bonus and pays some towards you travel to work costs which you would be paying anyway. If you have a finance / tax / hr department might be worth asking them to give you advice on the way to pay least tax. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 2:19:54 GMT
Been trying to source a new company car myself for about 6 months. I'm well overdue (126k miles and counting) but not able to view anything due to the showroom closures. The car tax rises over the last few years has completely screwed me - I'm actually taking home 10% less money now than I was 5 years ago. My additional problem is I need a large 4x4 type vehicle due to the size and weight of samples transported and the fact I have to go onto building sites regularly and live down a pretty awful country lane. Full electric is a no no due to price and range and self charging hybrids don't really offer much of a tax incentive so I am looking at a plug in hybrid 4x4 type but the prices are horrendous. If it carries on I can see myself having to look for another job closer to home for less money and no company car just to be able to afford to live. The changes in the governments company car tax rates over the last few years has been horrendous. Why dont u ask em for car allowance and mileage instead. I'm gonna do that for next car in 3 or 4 yrs, but at the mo company car suits. I take it Matty you are no longer in the Kingdom of endless traffic jams and tailpipes that look like Pigpen from the Peanuts cartoon. I had a Mitsu pick up there until the other half introduced it to a tree. Not my normal cup of tea but was more for the area was driving in. Ideal for building sites etc |
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 8, 2021 6:34:40 GMT
Why dont u ask em for car allowance and mileage instead. I'm gonna do that for next car in 3 or 4 yrs, but at the mo company car suits. I take it Matty you are no longer in the Kingdom of endless traffic jams and tailpipes that look like Pigpen from the Peanuts cartoon. I had a Mitsu pick up there until the other half introduced it to a tree. Not my normal cup of tea but was more for the area was driving in. Ideal for building sites etc Are you sure the tree didn’t just jump out in front of her |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 10:29:31 GMT
I take it Matty you are no longer in the Kingdom of endless traffic jams and tailpipes that look like Pigpen from the Peanuts cartoon. I had a Mitsu pick up there until the other half introduced it to a tree. Not my normal cup of tea but was more for the area was driving in. Ideal for building sites etc Are you sure the tree didn’t just jump out in front of her Any sensible tree would get out of her way |
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 8, 2021 10:51:16 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid. Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro. Anyone got either, or are better options available. Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax. I've just had it confirmed that my new Toyota Corolla touring sport hybrid (company car) has arrived at the dealership for its PDI, i cant wait. Currently have a Nissan xtrail gas guzzler. Spec looks great, really nice interior. I will let you know how it drives when I have it |
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Post by flea79 on Mar 8, 2021 11:47:50 GMT
Why would anybody want to get an electric car ffs used to be my opinion as we;; but as a low mileage company car it makes sense and exempt from company car tax, win win, plus i like the look of the honda e |
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 8, 2021 12:26:51 GMT
Why would anybody want to get an electric car ffs used to be my opinion as we;; but as a low mileage company car it makes sense and exempt from company car tax, win win, plus i like the look of the honda e At 60 I was brought up on RS 2000 , Mexico , Sierra Cosworth etc etc , they fetch a fortune now |
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Post by superjw on Mar 8, 2021 12:35:16 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid. Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro. Anyone got either, or are better options available. Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax. I've just had it confirmed that my new Toyota Corolla touring sport hybrid (company car) has arrived at the dealership for its PDI, i cant wait. Currently have a Nissan xtrail gas guzzler. Spec looks great, really nice interior. I will let you know how it drives when I have it Very nice cars they are, I have the auris hybrid and looked at one of those as an upgrade. They drive surprisingly nice, well I think they do anyway, into drive and away you go. The transition between engine, full electric and mix of the 2 is seamless and without the little indicator on the dash you otherwise wouldn't know sometimes. Fantastic technology but I get why some find it boring. It's all about how you drive these cars, I've had hybrids on and off for years now and I've learnt a lot about braking, lifting off the throttle and how to keep it in full electric for longer etc Which improves the overall mpg. Despite being winter I currently get 68mpg and that's all town driving and short distances because of Covid. I'd love the plug in hybrid to get even more battery power but the prices are insane |
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Post by mattyd2 on Mar 8, 2021 12:48:31 GMT
Getting new company car, and for tax reasons going for hybrid. Torn between Toyota Corolla Estate or Kia Niro. Anyone got either, or are better options available. Looked at ex demo mondeo estate, cheap enough, but list price clobbers me on tax. I've just had it confirmed that my new Toyota Corolla touring sport hybrid (company car) has arrived at the dealership for its PDI, i cant wait. Currently have a Nissan xtrail gas guzzler. Spec looks great, really nice interior. I will let you know how it drives when I have it Mine comes friday. Denim Blue |
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Post by mattyd2 on Mar 8, 2021 12:49:33 GMT
I've just had it confirmed that my new Toyota Corolla touring sport hybrid (company car) has arrived at the dealership for its PDI, i cant wait. Currently have a Nissan xtrail gas guzzler. Spec looks great, really nice interior. I will let you know how it drives when I have it Very nice cars they are, I have the auris hybrid and looked at one of those as an upgrade. They drive surprisingly nice, well I think they do anyway, into drive and away you go. The transition between engine, full electric and mix of the 2 is seamless and without the little indicator on the dash you otherwise wouldn't know sometimes. Fantastic technology but I get why some find it boring. It's all about how you drive these cars, I've had hybrids on and off for years now and I've learnt a lot about braking, lifting off the throttle and how to keep it in full electric for longer etc Which improves the overall mpg. Despite being winter I currently get 68mpg and that's all town driving and short distances because of Covid. I'd love the plug in hybrid to get even more battery power but the prices are insane The corolla has replaced the Auris |
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