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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 11:47:15 GMT
Valencia? You’re crediting that manager with that experience are you? When he encouraged everyone to get out there then sold them down the river by completely surrendering the tie? Was about to say the same! As if what happened at Valencia was anything but a fucking disgrace and he wants to brag about it? Fuck me, the Pulis fanboys really are brainwashed to fuck! I'm sure dave had a great time over there but that's credit to his mates that he went with, the bars and the city of Valencia not fucking Pulis. Pulis was there for footballing reasons and he fucked those right up!
Is all you can do is swear like a petulant chav.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 2, 2021 11:49:02 GMT
Was about to say the same! As if what happened at Valencia was anything but a fucking disgrace and he wants to brag about it? Fuck me, the Pulis fanboys really are brainwashed to fuck! Valencia was quite literally *the* low point of TP’s reign and the one thing I’ll never be able to fully forgive him for.
Yep,
I certainly wasn't a "PHW" when he was here (in fact even after he went, even though i agreed it was the right time to part company, i was still a bit gutted...end of an era and all that) but to use Valencia as something to praise him for is utterly bizarre!!
But i think it just about sums it up really, i think he's giving Pulis credit for a great break away with his mates and seems to have forgotten that Pulis was a football manager, not a travel agent.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 2, 2021 11:54:44 GMT
He said beating Liverpool was as good as....you then said that he said beating Liverpool was better (which he didn't....at all). Did you just not pack your brains today or are you just incapable of reading what you yourself wrote in black and white a couple of posts up? I think you need to read over what I put again you whopper. Did I not say in the post you quoted, stating that he said beating Liverpool was as good as? What an idiot you look now. If you have nothing constructive to say, don’t say anything little boy.
Oh dear, what a thick fuck you've just shown yourself up to be
I didn't say you said what you did in the post i quoted did i? Didn't i say " a couple of posts up"? Oh yeah, i did
"You’re saying beating Liverpool 6-1 was a bigger achievement than actually gaining promotion to the premier league?"
That's what you said when he clearly said nothing like that. I pointed it out and you still deny it? You tit
Don't try to patronise people when you don't even have the brainpower to fucking read or remember what you YOURSELF have written. You've done that twice now within about 4 posts and are doing nothing other than prove to people what a fucking cretin you are.
What's really worrying is that you don't seem to have even spotted it AFTER it's been pointed out to you.
The delusion of people with very little intellect trying to act superior by calling others "Little boy" is hilarious
What a fucking embarrassment you are.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 2, 2021 11:55:31 GMT
Was about to say the same! As if what happened at Valencia was anything but a fucking disgrace and he wants to brag about it? Fuck me, the Pulis fanboys really are brainwashed to fuck! I'm sure dave had a great time over there but that's credit to his mates that he went with, the bars and the city of Valencia not fucking Pulis. Pulis was there for footballing reasons and he fucked those right up!
Is all you can do is swear like a petulant chav.
At least i can read my own and other people's posts correctly.
You should try it sometime, you might not look like such a prick then....just an idea.
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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 11:55:31 GMT
You said beating Liverpool was as good as getting promoted, I said it is not. Imagine having an open top bus parade for beating Liverpool 6-1, how embarrassing would that be. Where have I said getting to the FA CUP final and losing it was an achievement? I said getting to our first FA Cup final was a bigger achievement than some games where we won and played well. Just like getting to Europe was a bigger achievement than playing well and winning certain games. What did we achieve in beating Liverpool 6-1 that’s puts it on par with getting promotion to the premier league? I agree we played some amazing stuff, and contrary to your later comment I have not said anything about Hughes, we played some great stuff under him, but the last year and a half under him over shadows what he did do with us. The only point I tried to make is achievements under the previous management are much more substantial than a few good performances and 9th placed finishes. Would Villa give up their promotion back to the premier league just to have that 7-2 win over Liverpool this season? I mean, how would that work? They've had both, just like we had both. I don't value one over the other, nor do I see why it's necessary to? What he achieved were our best league finishes for 40 years and the memories of performances associated with them. That for me is on par with getting to a cup final. If we'd won the cup I'm sure I'd feel differently. We didn't. You're still counting 'getting to Europe' as if that's a separate thing from getting to the cup final. Why? Yes it went badly tits up under Hughes. It was going tits up under Pulis. The board acted swiftly with one and dithered on the other, and here we are. I struggle with the fact you do not class promotion to the premier league over anything else we did following that, even arguably getting to the FA Cup final as we would not have had them players were we not in the premier league? I am not downplaying what Hughes did for us I liked him, I am just trying to put forward my opinion of if it was not for what the previous manager set up for him, would he “achieved” what he did with 9th placed finishes? In my opinion, I think what we did achieve under Pulis has far more gravitas than the few great performances and league finishes. The Europe and FA Cup situation you bring up I don’t agree with you. Were we told at the start of the season “get to the fa cup final and you will be in Europe”? It’s the fact that Pulis got us there that gave us the opportunity of Europe. This is not a Pulis/Hughes thing with me, I liked both. It’s just my opinion that the achievements under Pulis outweigh what we did under Hughes. That’s just my opinion. That is fine if you don’t agree with that.
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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 11:57:11 GMT
Is all you can do is swear like a petulant chav. At least i can read my own and other people's posts correctly. You should try it sometime, you might not look like such a prick then....just an idea.
Nah, you are just a thick petulant chav. Pulis obviously gave you some long nights crying in to your pillow. Boohoo little child.
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Post by dave1 on Mar 2, 2021 11:59:09 GMT
Valencia? You’re crediting that manager with that experience are you? When he encouraged everyone to get out there then sold them down the river by completely surrendering the tie? Was about to say the same! As if what happened at Valencia was anything but a fucking disgrace and he wants to brag about it? Fuck me, the Pulis fanboys really are brainwashed to fuck!
I'm sure dave had a great time over there but that's credit to his mates that he went with, the bars and the city of Valencia not fucking Pulis. Pulis was there for footballing reasons and he fucked those right up!
Without TP there wouldn't have been a European adventure. Hughes couldn't get us into Europe!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 2, 2021 12:00:41 GMT
At least i can read my own and other people's posts correctly. You should try it sometime, you might not look like such a prick then....just an idea.
Nah, you are just a thick petulant chav. Pulis obviously gave you some long nights crying in to your pillow. Boohoo little child.
Nope, i was a Pulis supporter actually.
What i'm not a fan of however, are people that intentionally misquote others simply to try to gain a foothold in their own argument and then deny they did so (even though it's in black and white about 4 post up for everyone to see). It just shows a lack of basic comprehension at best, or a lack of confidence in your own argument leading you to have to simply make things up to try to "win" at worst.
Neither are particuarly appealing qualities if i'm honest.
P.S. calling people "Little child" won't cover up the fact that you can't even fucking read
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 2, 2021 12:01:25 GMT
Was about to say the same! As if what happened at Valencia was anything but a fucking disgrace and he wants to brag about it? Fuck me, the Pulis fanboys really are brainwashed to fuck!
I'm sure dave had a great time over there but that's credit to his mates that he went with, the bars and the city of Valencia not fucking Pulis. Pulis was there for footballing reasons and he fucked those right up!
Without TP there wouldn't have been a European adventure. Hughes couldn't get us into Europe!
So why credit him with the worst European experience out of all of them?
Its fucking bizarre mate.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 2, 2021 12:01:41 GMT
I mean, how would that work? They've had both, just like we had both. I don't value one over the other, nor do I see why it's necessary to? What he achieved were our best league finishes for 40 years and the memories of performances associated with them. That for me is on par with getting to a cup final. If we'd won the cup I'm sure I'd feel differently. We didn't. You're still counting 'getting to Europe' as if that's a separate thing from getting to the cup final. Why? Yes it went badly tits up under Hughes. It was going tits up under Pulis. The board acted swiftly with one and dithered on the other, and here we are. I struggle with the fact you do not class promotion to the premier league over anything else we did following that, even arguably getting to the FA Cup final as we would not have had them players were we not in the premier league? I am not downplaying what Hughes did for us I liked him, I am just trying to put forward my opinion of if it was not for what the previous manager set up for him, would he “achieved” what he did with 9th placed finishes? In my opinion, I think what we did achieve under Pulis has far more gravitas than the few great performances and league finishes. The Europe and FA Cup situation you bring up I don’t agree with you. Were we told at the start of the season “get to the fa cup final and you will be in Europe”? It’s the fact that Pulis got us there that gave us the opportunity of Europe. This is not a Pulis/Hughes thing with me, I liked both. It’s just my opinion that the achievements under Pulis outweigh what we did under Hughes. That’s just my opinion. That is fine if you don’t agree with that. Well for starters it was a fairly safe bet that if we got to the FA Cup final we'd be in Europe because the chances were high we'd be playing someone who'd already qualified. So...yes, pretty much? I think the downplaying of the top half finishes is a shame. To manage that - improving on the efforts of Pulis with, initially, a smaller budget and reenergising a team that was losing its way, was a good achievement in the context of modern football. So were the wins over those top sides and some of the football we played. So was promotion under Pulis, establishing ourselves as a Premier League side and the cup final run. I don't think any of those should be denigrated or undermined.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 2, 2021 12:03:03 GMT
Was about to say the same! As if what happened at Valencia was anything but a fucking disgrace and he wants to brag about it? Fuck me, the Pulis fanboys really are brainwashed to fuck! I'm sure dave had a great time over there but that's credit to his mates that he went with, the bars and the city of Valencia not fucking Pulis. Pulis was there for footballing reasons and he fucked those right up!
Without TP there wouldn't have been a European adventure. Hughes couldn't get us into Europe! TP wouldn't if he'd drawn either of the Manchester clubs in his semi final instead of Bolton. Fine margins, isn't it?
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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 12:08:23 GMT
Nah, you are just a thick petulant chav. Pulis obviously gave you some long nights crying in to your pillow. Boohoo little child. Nope, i was a Pulis supporter actually. What i'm not a fan of however, are people that intentionally misquote others simply to try to gain a foothold in their own argument and then deny they did so (even though it's in black and white about 4 post up for everyone to see). It just shows a lack of basic comprehension at best, or a lack of confidence in your own argument leading you to have to simply make things up to try to "win" at worst. Neither are particuarly appealing qualities if i'm honest. P.S. calling people "Little child" won't cover up the fact that you can't even fucking read Swearing like a 14 year old petulant kid shows a great sense of comprehension doesn’t it? Jesus. You seem a really angry man just waiting to call someone a Pulis fanboy or PHW then just throw a load of swear words to either make a point or really really show how angry you are. As you will see in my comment you first quoted I corrected what was put to me, willing to correct my mistakes. But if I upset you that much, you need to get out more. Hahahahahahahahahahaha 😘
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 2, 2021 12:09:29 GMT
Was good to see him.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 2, 2021 12:13:35 GMT
Nope, i was a Pulis supporter actually. What i'm not a fan of however, are people that intentionally misquote others simply to try to gain a foothold in their own argument and then deny they did so (even though it's in black and white about 4 post up for everyone to see). It just shows a lack of basic comprehension at best, or a lack of confidence in your own argument leading you to have to simply make things up to try to "win" at worst. Neither are particuarly appealing qualities if i'm honest. P.S. calling people "Little child" won't cover up the fact that you can't even fucking read Swearing like a 14 year old petulant kid shows a great sense of comprehension doesn’t it? Jesus. You seem a really angry man just waiting to call someone a Pulis fanboy or PHW then just throw a load of swear words to either make a point or really really show how angry you are. As you will see in my comment you first quoted I corrected what was put to me, willing to correct my mistakes. But if I upset you that much, you need to get out more. Hahahahahahahahahahaha 😘
Swearing has nothing to do with comprehension...or do you not know what comprehension is?
And how does calling people "little boy/little child/petulant kid" make you superior, particularly when you were the one who was wrong?
Just another poster with no brain who doesn't like it when someone calls out their mistakes.
No, you don't upset me. Thinking youre a sad prick is different from being upset (but with your clear and obvious lack of intellect, i appreciate you may not understand that).
P.S. i'd say that pretty much THE most "14 year old kid" thing in any of these posts is the person saying "Hahahahahaha" because they have no actual substance and then signing it off with a kiss emoji. How embarrassing for you.
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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 12:17:57 GMT
I struggle with the fact you do not class promotion to the premier league over anything else we did following that, even arguably getting to the FA Cup final as we would not have had them players were we not in the premier league? I am not downplaying what Hughes did for us I liked him, I am just trying to put forward my opinion of if it was not for what the previous manager set up for him, would he “achieved” what he did with 9th placed finishes? In my opinion, I think what we did achieve under Pulis has far more gravitas than the few great performances and league finishes. The Europe and FA Cup situation you bring up I don’t agree with you. Were we told at the start of the season “get to the fa cup final and you will be in Europe”? It’s the fact that Pulis got us there that gave us the opportunity of Europe. This is not a Pulis/Hughes thing with me, I liked both. It’s just my opinion that the achievements under Pulis outweigh what we did under Hughes. That’s just my opinion. That is fine if you don’t agree with that. Well for starters it was a fairly safe bet that if we got to the FA Cup final we'd be in Europe because the chances were high we'd be playing someone who'd already qualified. So...yes, pretty much? I think the downplaying of the top half finishes is a shame. To manage that - improving on the efforts of Pulis with, initially, a smaller budget and reenergising a team that was losing its way, was a good achievement in the context of modern football. So were the wins over those top sides and some of the football we played. So was promotion under Pulis, establishing ourselves as a Premier League side and the cup final run. I don't think any of those should be denigrated or undermined. Yeah I totally get what you are saying about the finishes and I am not downplaying them as such, Hughes did re-energise us, but I think it’s of no coincidence that when the back bone of the squad he inherited started our downward spiral under Hughes which was a shame because of what he did do for us. I would also argue that Hughes budget was smaller than that of Pulis. I understand what you are saying regarding the cup final, but there could have been a chance, albeit a small chance, we could have had a different draw in the semis and played Bolton in the final and won. I think the point of trying to say we got in to Europe by default does not stand as there was a lot to do and a bell of an achievement to get us into the position where that opportunity came our way.
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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 12:29:58 GMT
Swearing like a 14 year old petulant kid shows a great sense of comprehension doesn’t it? Jesus. You seem a really angry man just waiting to call someone a Pulis fanboy or PHW then just throw a load of swear words to either make a point or really really show how angry you are. As you will see in my comment you first quoted I corrected what was put to me, willing to correct my mistakes. But if I upset you that much, you need to get out more. Hahahahahahahahahahaha 😘 . Swearing has nothing to do with comprehension...or do you not know what comprehension is? And how does calling people "little boy/little child/petulant kid" make you superior, particularly when you were the one who was wrong? Just another poster with no brain who doesn't like it when someone calls out their mistakes. No, you don't upset me. Thinking youre a sad prick is different from being upset (but with your clear and obvious lack of intellect, i appreciate you may not understand that).
P.S. i'd say that pretty much THE most "14 year old kid" thing in any of these posts is the person saying "Hahahahahaha" because they have no actual substance and then signing it off with a kiss emoji. How embarrassing for you.
Yeah the inability to understand something. I have worked with a lot of kids with behavioural difficulties and when they don’t understand something they have a massive strop and swear, a bit like what you do. I don’t think I am superior to you, I just think you behave like a little boy when you start swearing like you do, like I said, from experience. I obviously do upset you, and emojis definitely upset you, it’s more embarrassing that they upset you than it is for me using them hahahahahahahaha oops have I upset you again there? See I have to use that because like you say 14 year old boys resonate with that sort of thing because they understand it. Can you not read now, where I have just said I went back on what the other poster said and corrected myself on the comment you posted? I am more than happy to right my misunderstandings or readings.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 2, 2021 12:34:39 GMT
. Swearing has nothing to do with comprehension...or do you not know what comprehension is? And how does calling people "little boy/little child/petulant kid" make you superior, particularly when you were the one who was wrong? Just another poster with no brain who doesn't like it when someone calls out their mistakes. No, you don't upset me. Thinking youre a sad prick is different from being upset (but with your clear and obvious lack of intellect, i appreciate you may not understand that).
P.S. i'd say that pretty much THE most "14 year old kid" thing in any of these posts is the person saying "Hahahahahaha" because they have no actual substance and then signing it off with a kiss emoji. How embarrassing for you.
Yeah the inability to understand something. I have worked with a lot of kids with behavioural difficulties and when they don’t understand something they have a massive strop and swear, a bit like what you do. I don’t think I am superior to you, I just think you behave like a little boy when you start swearing like you do, like I said, from experience. I obviously do upset you, and emojis definitely upset you, it’s more embarrassing that they upset you than it is for me using them hahahahahahahaha oops have I upset you again there? See I have to use that because like you say 14 year old boys resonate with that sort of thing because they understand it. Can you not read now, where I have just said I went back on what the other poster said and corrected myself on the comment you posted? I am more than happy to right my misunderstandings or readings. What's worrying is the fact they allow you to work with kids, when you make such generalisations and sweeping statements about them and then make presumptions about other people in society based on those generalisations about young people. Seriously concerning really. The more you write, the less appealing as a human being you appear.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 2, 2021 12:38:02 GMT
Well for starters it was a fairly safe bet that if we got to the FA Cup final we'd be in Europe because the chances were high we'd be playing someone who'd already qualified. So...yes, pretty much? I think the downplaying of the top half finishes is a shame. To manage that - improving on the efforts of Pulis with, initially, a smaller budget and reenergising a team that was losing its way, was a good achievement in the context of modern football. So were the wins over those top sides and some of the football we played. So was promotion under Pulis, establishing ourselves as a Premier League side and the cup final run. I don't think any of those should be denigrated or undermined. Yeah I totally get what you are saying about the finishes and I am not downplaying them as such, Hughes did re-energise us, but I think it’s of no coincidence that when the back bone of the squad he inherited started our downward spiral under Hughes which was a shame because of what he did do for us. I would also argue that Hughes budget was smaller than that of Pulis. I understand what you are saying regarding the cup final, but there could have been a chance, albeit a small chance, we could have had a different draw in the semis and played Bolton in the final and won. I think the point of trying to say we got in to Europe by default does not stand as there was a lot to do and a bell of an achievement to get us into the position where that opportunity came our way. I think it's just a fact that we got into Europe by deafult. Still great that we did, great that we got to the final, but the fact that they've taken that ruling away now tells us something. Hughes and Pulis had a similar budget over the course of their five years but Hughes in his first season only spent not much more than TP spent on Kitson alone, and didn't spent much more the season after, yet finished top half, which Pulis never managed. I know he inherited a backbone but that backbone was creaking at the end of the Pulis season and he did well to get it playing again. He also took players like Adam, Cameron, Nzonzi, even Crouch and had them playing the best football of their Stoke careers.
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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 12:57:10 GMT
Yeah the inability to understand something. I have worked with a lot of kids with behavioural difficulties and when they don’t understand something they have a massive strop and swear, a bit like what you do. I don’t think I am superior to you, I just think you behave like a little boy when you start swearing like you do, like I said, from experience. I obviously do upset you, and emojis definitely upset you, it’s more embarrassing that they upset you than it is for me using them hahahahahahahaha oops have I upset you again there? See I have to use that because like you say 14 year old boys resonate with that sort of thing because they understand it. Can you not read now, where I have just said I went back on what the other poster said and corrected myself on the comment you posted? I am more than happy to right my misunderstandings or readings. What's worrying is the fact they allow you to work with kids, when you make such generalisations and sweeping statements about them and then make presumptions about other people in society based on those generalisations about young people. Seriously concerning really. The more you write, the less appealing as a human being you appear. Yeah, worrying ain’t it. I have been saying this all the time but I am being kept on. Could say that about your posts with the filthy language you use. Go and have a nice day now instead of arguing with me and trying to make me look dafter than I already look.
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Post by webbyscfc on Mar 2, 2021 13:03:40 GMT
Yeah I totally get what you are saying about the finishes and I am not downplaying them as such, Hughes did re-energise us, but I think it’s of no coincidence that when the back bone of the squad he inherited started our downward spiral under Hughes which was a shame because of what he did do for us. I would also argue that Hughes budget was smaller than that of Pulis. I understand what you are saying regarding the cup final, but there could have been a chance, albeit a small chance, we could have had a different draw in the semis and played Bolton in the final and won. I think the point of trying to say we got in to Europe by default does not stand as there was a lot to do and a bell of an achievement to get us into the position where that opportunity came our way. I think it's just a fact that we got into Europe by deafult. Still great that we did, great that we got to the final, but the fact that they've taken that ruling away now tells us something. Hughes and Pulis had a similar budget over the course of their five years but Hughes in his first season only spent not much more than TP spent on Kitson alone, and didn't spent much more the season after, yet finished top half, which Pulis never managed. I know he inherited a backbone but that backbone was creaking at the end of the Pulis season and he did well to get it playing again. He also took players like Adam, Cameron, Nzonzi, even Crouch and had them playing the best football of their Stoke careers. Can’t argue with most of what you have said. But I would just point that maybe Hughes had some extravagant flops that were expensive where as Pulis rarely did. I mean he had many that did not work out but were relatively cheap players. I would probably only put Kitson and maybe Palacios in that category. Those players you mention I think got better with the players that Hughes brought in which you do have to credit Hughes for, but when them players started to leave, I don’t think Hughes knew what to do, and I just done mean playing wise, I mean in terms of controlling the dressing room. But I totally get your points.
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Post by dave1 on Mar 2, 2021 13:07:15 GMT
Without TP there wouldn't have been a European adventure. Hughes couldn't get us into Europe!
So why credit him with the worst European experience out of all of them?
Its fucking bizarre mate.
Because it was the only one (abroad that is) that I went. Yes,it was disappointing the team that he went with- perhaps we could/would have won if he played a full strength team- we'll never know. No matter what anyone says on here TP does no wrong for me. As for Hughes can't stand him (and no one will be able to convince me otherwise)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 2, 2021 13:22:38 GMT
I think it's just a fact that we got into Europe by deafult. Still great that we did, great that we got to the final, but the fact that they've taken that ruling away now tells us something. Hughes and Pulis had a similar budget over the course of their five years but Hughes in his first season only spent not much more than TP spent on Kitson alone, and didn't spent much more the season after, yet finished top half, which Pulis never managed. I know he inherited a backbone but that backbone was creaking at the end of the Pulis season and he did well to get it playing again. He also took players like Adam, Cameron, Nzonzi, even Crouch and had them playing the best football of their Stoke careers. Can’t argue with most of what you have said. But I would just point that maybe Hughes had some extravagant flops that were expensive where as Pulis rarely did. I mean he had many that did not work out but were relatively cheap players. I would probably only put Kitson and maybe Palacios in that category. Those players you mention I think got better with the players that Hughes brought in which you do have to credit Hughes for, but when them players started to leave, I don’t think Hughes knew what to do, and I just done mean playing wise, I mean in terms of controlling the dressing room. But I totally get your points. Yeah I think that’s fair. I think playing a more open style with more engaging training sessions livened the existing players up as well.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 2, 2021 13:47:31 GMT
Both Pulis and Hughes did well above average managing Stoke. I enjoyed watching a greater proportion of the games under Hughes but enjoyed a greater proportion of the games under Macari then either of them. Durban achieved promotion to what is now the Prem in my first full season as a ST holder and I also enjoyed a very low proportion of those games too. It’s all about the entertainment value for me. I like some aspects of MON’s management but in all honesty I can’t ever see him producing an entertaining team.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 2, 2021 13:56:11 GMT
Swearing like a 14 year old petulant kid shows a great sense of comprehension doesn’t it? Jesus. You seem a really angry man just waiting to call someone a Pulis fanboy or PHW then just throw a load of swear words to either make a point or really really show how angry you are. As you will see in my comment you first quoted I corrected what was put to me, willing to correct my mistakes. But if I upset you that much, you need to get out more. Hahahahahahahahahahaha 😘
Swearing has nothing to do with comprehension...or do you not know what comprehension is?
And how does calling people "little boy/little child/petulant kid" make you superior, particularly when you were the one who was wrong?
Just another poster with no brain who doesn't like it when someone calls out their mistakes.
No, you don't upset me. Thinking youre a sad prick is different from being upset (but with your clear and obvious lack of intellect, i appreciate you may not understand that).
P.S. i'd say that pretty much THE most "14 year old kid" thing in any of these posts is the person saying "Hahahahahaha" because they have no actual substance and then signing it off with a kiss emoji. How embarrassing for you.
I see you are still getting away with your vile language and personal abuse there Mick strange how the message board rules are not applied to all posters in the same manner.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 2, 2021 17:07:07 GMT
So you wont be telling them about the day we beat Liverpool 6-1 in Gerrards last game, either? Or the day we played Man city off the park followed not long after by doing likewise to the shit on Boxing day. Or the epic 4-3 win at Everton Its amazing what short memories these Hughes haters have Any manager can have one off games where we play teams off the park or get big wins, but what actually did Hughes achieve with us? Apart from kick starting our demise when the disintegrating of the foundations Pulis built happened under his watch. Are you going to tell the story of beating Liverpool 6-1 over being promoted to the premier league? Are you going to tell the story of beating Everton 4-3 over our only ever FA Cup final appearance? Are you going to tell the story of beating a poor Man Utd side at the time over a European adventure? Again I ask, what did Hughes actually achieve here? 3 9th placed finishes is not an achievement in my opinion. It wasnt just a few one off games though was it? We stuffed Tottenham, beat Chelsea in the league and cup, won at Anfield (albeit not the tie), regularly won at places like Villa. Purely for football 14/15 was our best season in the PL (possibly on a par with 10/11) and then the following season we had BMX. I know it all went tits up in the end but I fucking loved those first 3 seasons!
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 2, 2021 19:37:20 GMT
Any manager can have one off games where we play teams off the park or get big wins, but what actually did Hughes achieve with us? Apart from kick starting our demise when the disintegrating of the foundations Pulis built happened under his watch. Are you going to tell the story of beating Liverpool 6-1 over being promoted to the premier league? Are you going to tell the story of beating Everton 4-3 over our only ever FA Cup final appearance? Are you going to tell the story of beating a poor Man Utd side at the time over a European adventure? Again I ask, what did Hughes actually achieve here? 3 9th placed finishes is not an achievement in my opinion. It wasnt just a few one off games though was it? We stuffed Tottenham, beat Chelsea in the league and cup, won at Anfield (albeit not the tie), regularly won at places like Villa. Purely for football 14/15 was our best season in the PL (possibly on a par with 10/11) and then the following season we had BMX. I know it all went tits up in the end but I fucking loved those first 3 seasons! The memories from those couple of seasons, jesus. The best Stoke team and the most famous results and performances most of us will ever see by a long, long distance. It’s almost a bit distressing that a Stoke supporter’s mind could be sufficiently deranged by... something... to dismiss that as “any manager having a one-off game”. I mean really what’s the point in supporting a team
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Post by oslostokie1 on Mar 2, 2021 22:24:48 GMT
Studio guest on Monday night football tonight. Be interesting to see if has any views on his time at Stoke. Last time I saw him on tv he was mentioned with Stoke and said “yea, thanks for bringing that up/thanks for reminding me” or words to that effect. Needless to say he doesn’t enjoy talking about us I don’t think It was nothing like that. Dan Walker was talking about Prem clubs being knocked out of the FA Cup by lower division clubs and joked with Hughes that wasn’t this how he lost his job to which Hughes responded “thanks for bringing that up”. He was not remotely trying to avoid talking about his time with us and has done so on many occasions since he left
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Post by oslostokie1 on Mar 2, 2021 22:27:22 GMT
It wasnt just a few one off games though was it? We stuffed Tottenham, beat Chelsea in the league and cup, won at Anfield (albeit not the tie), regularly won at places like Villa. Purely for football 14/15 was our best season in the PL (possibly on a par with 10/11) and then the following season we had BMX. I know it all went tits up in the end but I fucking loved those first 3 seasons! The memories from those couple of seasons, jesus. The best Stoke team and the most famous results and performances most of us will ever see by a long, long distance. It’s almost a bit distressing that a Stoke supporter’s mind could be sufficiently deranged by... something... to dismiss that as “any manager having a one-off game”. I mean really what’s the point in supporting a team I agree, they are completely deranged
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 2, 2021 23:01:57 GMT
Said at the time history would be kind to Hughes as Stoke manager and so it’s proved candidly I’d have him ans has CIA chin tens back tomorrow the difference Between them and all that followed is he genuinely believed he could fight on the same terms as the big guys that how’s he’s always been bought up . Lest anyone forget on seven people on the planet have won more premier league Matches .
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Post by flea79 on Mar 2, 2021 23:46:24 GMT
Said at the time history would be kind to Hughes as Stoke manager and so it’s proved candidly I’d have him ans has CIA chin tens back tomorrow the difference Between them and all that followed is he genuinely believed he could fight on the same terms as the big guys that how’s he’s always been bought up . Lest anyone forget on seven people on the planet have won more premier league Matches . In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, come again
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