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Post by femark on Feb 16, 2021 21:23:23 GMT
If he can learn not to fall over the ball so much he’ll be excellent for us
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Post by ChesterStokie on Feb 16, 2021 21:24:35 GMT
His running really helps, hes just a very poor footballer. Harry Soutter was absolutely magnificent. He's got pace and a decent engine. His passing and crossing are actually pretty good. His weaknesses are that, sometimes, he loses possession too easily and his decision making is sometimes poor - like that time in the first half when he made a great run into the area with the ball and put in a very weak shot at the keeper when both Fletcher and MaClean were in much better positions to score. I don't agree that he is just a poor footballer. He is a potentially decent footballer with some things he does well and with a couple of weaknesses which our coaches should try to coach out of him. I certainly haven't written him off. I would certainly say he is likely to progress more quickly if he is played wide rather than in the centre. Well I hope you are right. My worry is his touch. It’s really poor and it’s such a basic skill in football that I wonder how much improvement can be coached into him.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 16, 2021 21:26:04 GMT
His running and movement made those positions Bayern and he put balls into the right areas especially the pull back for Fletcher It was more Powell being class imo. That was the only good thing he did. The rest he messed up. I thought it was more down to the class balls Powell played through and he should have made more from them. Brown put a good shift in though to be fair to him tonight.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 16, 2021 21:27:20 GMT
Souttar best player on the park by a mile. Brown 9/10 for effort and desire. 1/10 for quality. 5 over all. Souttar was good. Smith was good. Thompson was decent enough I thought. Powell was easily the best player on the pitch though. The only one with any real quality, particularly at the right end of the pitch. Powell is the only bit of quality we've got at that end of the pitch post Campbell. Smith was OK defensively but was poor going forward. Not his fault Huddersfield had us up the arse for 4 Million for a run of the mill Championship defender I suppose. Thompson gives us energy and little else but with our mob, energy is something to be prized. Souttar starting to look a serious, serious player though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2021 21:28:07 GMT
It was more Powell being class imo. That was the only good thing he did. The rest he messed up. I thought it was more down to the class balls Powell played through and he should have made more from them. Brown put a good shift in though to be fair to him tonight. A good player has a goal at least from what Brown was given tonight. He did work hard but footballing wise he was awful.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 16, 2021 21:29:13 GMT
Played well, stretched them constantly and kept on the touchline. Gave their left back a really hard time, first time we’ve seen a winger do that for ages.
Could and should have done better on occasion but should have an assist to his name where Fletcher’s goalbound shot was blocked.
Seems to do all the hard work and let himself down much too often though on the whole, but overall good tonight.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 16, 2021 21:30:02 GMT
Souttar was good. Smith was good. Thompson was decent enough I thought. Powell was easily the best player on the pitch though. The only one with any real quality, particularly at the right end of the pitch. Powell is the only bit of quality we've got at that end of the pitch post Campbell. Smith was OK defensively but was poor going forward. Not his fault Huddersfield had us up the arse for 4 Million for a run of the mill Championship defender I suppose. Thompson gives us energy and little else but with our mob, energy is something to be prized. Souttar starting to look a serious, serious player though. I'll warm to Souttar more when he stops turning his back when attempting to block a shot. It's just a small gripe but I don't like it. He's been excellent and was again tonight.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 16, 2021 21:30:42 GMT
I thought it was more down to the class balls Powell played through and he should have made more from them. Brown put a good shift in though to be fair to him tonight. A good player has a goal at least from what Brown was given tonight. He did work hard but footballing wise he was awful. Totally agree Bayern those balls through from Powell were on a plate for him and with a better touch and more composure he would have at least scored from one of those.
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Post by jwhpotter on Feb 16, 2021 21:30:43 GMT
Souttar for me. Brown did well last 25 mins. Same - he was class!
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 16, 2021 21:31:52 GMT
Better tonight but MoM? No. *
Ever willing runner and clearly a decent athlete.
But yes, if he was a footballer, he'd be dangerous.
* (That was Harry by a country mile, surely.)
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 16, 2021 21:32:35 GMT
Souttar was good. Smith was good. Thompson was decent enough I thought. Powell was easily the best player on the pitch though. The only one with any real quality, particularly at the right end of the pitch. Powell is the only bit of quality we've got at that end of the pitch post Campbell. Smith was OK defensively but was poor going forward. Not his fault Huddersfield had us up the arse for 4 Million for a run of the mill Championship defender I suppose. Thompson gives us energy and little else but with our mob, energy is something to be prized. Souttar starting to look a serious, serious player though. Agree with that sheik Souttar is looking excellent really assured on the ball for a young lad and winning every ball tonight. We will do well to keep hold of him if he keeps up his progress.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 16, 2021 21:33:07 GMT
His endeavour gave us something different and once we worked out that run in behind the CB he was very effective and unlucky not to get a couple of assists. Technically he’s probably not much better than me. He’s dreadful and if he was more assured on the ball he could have scored a couple today. His crossing is weirdly effective too. How was it unlucky? He just kept messing the situations up? There was a couple of cutbacks that both Fletcher and mcclean didn’t read, both attacked the goal instead of hanging back.
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 16, 2021 21:35:19 GMT
Souttar for me. Brown did well last 25 mins. I feel Souttar has a weakness that Stoke defenders seem to have had for years and that is when facing goal his first and only thought is to put the ball out for a throwing. He's going to be a great player in the future and I'm sure he'll gain the confidence to think of other options.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 16, 2021 21:36:15 GMT
Souttar best player on the park by a mile. Brown 9/10 for effort and desire. 1/10 for quality. 5 over all. Souttar was good. Smith was good. Thompson was decent enough I thought. Powell was easily the best player on the pitch though. The only one with any real quality, particularly at the right end of the pitch. I think Thompson is abit under rated tonight, got stuck in, and tried to move us forward every time he has the ball. His corners were shit mind
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 16, 2021 21:38:12 GMT
Runs around a lot, just a pity he can't control a football.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 16, 2021 21:50:54 GMT
He’s got the heart of a lion and works really hard but some of his skills are questionable. The positives with him though are he keeps the opposition defence on their toes which is more than Matondo, Ince or Vokes do.
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 16, 2021 21:52:47 GMT
He had a decent game tonight, leave him alone. He will sadly always be the nearly man.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 16, 2021 21:58:00 GMT
He's an athlete who if played in properly like in the second half today can be effective at this level. With confidence and coaching I can see him becoming a Jon Walters. He wasn't MOM through his own skill but was effective because we played to his strengths so he was a candidate because he was the biggest threat on either side.
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Post by mcw on Feb 16, 2021 22:30:35 GMT
He had a decent game tonight, leave him alone. He will sadly always be the nearly man. There is something there at least, seems capable of creating a bit of space and breaking through the lines. I am definitely not putting him in the scrap heap bracket, which is where Matondo is squarely sitting despite having €11.5M spent on his “potential”! Brown has the raw ingredients- pace, endeavour and if he can be finessed I think there genuinely is something to be encouraged by.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 16, 2021 22:52:10 GMT
Souttar motm all day long, but Brown did improve massively in the second half and actually looked a little like a footballer in the end. He's bloody quick as well for his size,those long legs of his don't half cover the ground.He's so comfortable on the ball too,what an asset he has become.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 16, 2021 22:54:29 GMT
Souttar motm all day long, but Brown did improve massively in the second half and actually looked a little like a footballer in the end. He's bloody quick as well for his size,those long legs of his don't half cover the ground.He's so comfortable on the ball too,what an asset he has become. I was thinking the same when one of theirs knocked it past him and tried to go around, I just hope he finds his feet in the oppo half, he realy should be dominating more on corners.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 16, 2021 22:57:26 GMT
He must post on here. There is no way Mr Stoke City wouldn't be a contributor on this forum. The guy loves the sound of his own voice that's for sure.Probably posts as much shite as he talks,so there's plenty on here to chose from.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 16, 2021 22:58:45 GMT
I remember playing in a football tournament in Sa coma many years ago it was a local organised torny while we were on holiday and my mate who was watching from the stand said to me everyone around him was talking about the tall skinny lad in the stoke shirt, well chuffed I said what were they saying? He said all game you never stopped running and was fit as fiddle ( I was 19) but other than that I was useless!
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 16, 2021 23:03:58 GMT
He's bloody quick as well for his size,those long legs of his don't half cover the ground.He's so comfortable on the ball too,what an asset he has become. I was thinking the same when one of theirs knocked it past him and tried to go around, I just hope he finds his feet in the oppo half, he realy should be dominating more on corners. Agree,but tonight I thought our corners were mostly bloody awful,and I was hopeful that Thompson would have put more good deliveries in tonight than he did.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 16, 2021 23:08:23 GMT
Really? He kept getting played into good positions and then fucking them up. Created 4 excellent opportunities for Fletcher, Allen and 2 balls in the box someone should have got on the end of. All our attacking came through his movement, linking up with Powell. He worked hard when out of possession and stopped Reach getting forward. Mike Pejic was of the same opinion
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2021 23:09:40 GMT
Really? He kept getting played into good positions and then fucking them up. Created 4 excellent opportunities for Fletcher, Allen and 2 balls in the box someone should have got on the end of. All our attacking came through his movement, linking up with Powell. He worked hard when out of possession and stopped Reach getting forward. Mike Pejic was of the same opinion 4? I can remember one of the balls, McClean had no chance. It was a poor ball.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 16, 2021 23:14:16 GMT
Created 4 excellent opportunities for Fletcher, Allen and 2 balls in the box someone should have got on the end of. All our attacking came through his movement, linking up with Powell. He worked hard when out of possession and stopped Reach getting forward. Mike Pejic was of the same opinion 4? I can remember one of the balls, McClean had no chance. It was a poor ball. Genuinely thought he played well tonight. He’s not brilliant by any stretch and still very raw but there is something there to work on. Confidence makes such a huge difference.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2021 23:16:21 GMT
4? I can remember one of the balls, McClean had no chance. It was a poor ball. Genuinely thought he played well tonight. He’s not brilliant by any stretch and still very raw but there is something there to work on. Confidence makes such a huge difference. And I thought he was absolutely shite 😂 The runs were good but I just think it broke down too often when he got it. Hopefully it will come confidence and I do want to really like him because he does have ability. I don’t think he showed it tonight at all.
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Post by LankyPotter on Feb 16, 2021 23:18:50 GMT
He is raw. He hasn’t got lightening speed but he is far more effective than our other wingers (excluding Campbell when he was on the wing).
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 16, 2021 23:21:54 GMT
It will be interesting to see him in a more normal season, where coaches have more time to work on individual stuff with players, rather than a covid dominated play, recover, plan, play routine that we are stuck in.
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