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Post by spitthedog on Mar 29, 2021 16:46:19 GMT
He's been an unused sub in 8 games, and come on for 9 and 4 minutes respectively in the other 2 games...... I've never really understood the obsession that some posters had (indeed still have) about Verlinden. There are usually obsessions on here about most players who don't make the team. He looked to have some talent but who knows what he does or doesn't do in training?
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Post by davethebass on Mar 29, 2021 17:52:41 GMT
Really is a head scratcher of a signing for us & taking what happened at the weekend out of the equation, Rabbi hasn't exactly done himself any favours now with the Welsh FA for whatever the protocol breaches are. Apparently he stayed up after bedtime in the Hotel with 2 other players and this broke protocol. So it's not like he went out on the town (not that there is a town to go out to!) It's just been on BBC Wales Today, and it wasn't covid protocol he broke, it was team discipline rules. Him and Robson-Kanu and Roberts, like you say staying up after bedtime. It was briefly mentioned after a long piece about the despicable racial abuse. It's sad because I wouldn't be surprised if it was the emotion and upset of the racial abuse that had them staying up late.
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 29, 2021 17:57:09 GMT
Fine by me - send him home. Not much chance of him getting hurt on International Duty now is there?
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Post by a on Mar 29, 2021 18:15:02 GMT
He's been an unused sub in 8 games, and come on for 9 and 4 minutes respectively in the other 2 games...... I've never really understood the obsession that some posters had (indeed still have) about Verlinden. Me neither. I’ve not seen enough of him to form a solid opinion but the way some on here harp on he’s George Best incarnate. His new club must have a shit manager too then if he’s not getting into the side... or maybe he isn’t that good?
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Post by davethebass on Mar 29, 2021 18:18:42 GMT
Fine by me - send him home. Not much chance of him getting hurt on International Duty now is there? Its fine by the players involved too I think, like one of them said, I forget which, "rules is rules". So it's fine by me too. And that's a good point you make, we already lost Allen.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 29, 2021 18:26:54 GMT
how did he play for Wales when he started?
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Post by Championship Potter on Mar 29, 2021 18:48:17 GMT
Apparently he stayed up after bedtime in the Hotel with 2 other players and this broke protocol. So it's not like he went out on the town (not that there is a town to go out to!) It's just been on BBC Wales Today, and it wasn't covid protocol he broke, it was team discipline rules. Him and Robson-Kanu and Roberts, like you say staying up after bedtime. It was briefly mentioned after a long piece about the despicable racial abuse. It's sad because I wouldn't be surprised if it was the emotion and upset of the racial abuse that had them staying up late. Yeah you’d think a bit of leniency would have been sensible given the circumstances?!
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 29, 2021 18:59:08 GMT
He told them he was footballer they didn’t believe him
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 29, 2021 19:01:12 GMT
Apparently he stayed up after bedtime in the Hotel with 2 other players and this broke protocol. So it's not like he went out on the town (not that there is a town to go out to!) It's just been on BBC Wales Today, and it wasn't covid protocol he broke, it was team discipline rules. Him and Robson-Kanu and Roberts, like you say staying up after bedtime. It was briefly mentioned after a long piece about the despicable racial abuse. It's sad because I wouldn't be surprised if it was the emotion and upset of the racial abuse that had them staying up late. I think that is a very generous supposition. Personally I am getting sick and tired of footballers who feel they can flout any rules at will. Their massive wages clearly make them think they are more important than observing professional behaviour.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 29, 2021 19:14:36 GMT
how did he play for Wales when he started? I watched the game v Mexico. The UniMas commentary mentioned how he was giving them trouble on the right side of defence. He honestly didnt do much when he had the ball, but his pace gave them worry, especially with a midfielder to support him on the left. He was subbed off after a pretty reckless foul against him, no injury but should have been a yellow, and Bale came on for the final 15 minutes or so.
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Post by davethebass on Mar 30, 2021 1:27:33 GMT
It's just been on BBC Wales Today, and it wasn't covid protocol he broke, it was team discipline rules. Him and Robson-Kanu and Roberts, like you say staying up after bedtime. It was briefly mentioned after a long piece about the despicable racial abuse. It's sad because I wouldn't be surprised if it was the emotion and upset of the racial abuse that had them staying up late. I think that is a very generous supposition. Personally I am getting sick and tired of footballers who feel they can flout any rules at will. Their massive wages clearly make them think they are more important than observing professional behaviour. That's a fair point. Given the circumstances though, I'm inclined to be generous and give him the benefit.
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Post by davethebass on Mar 30, 2021 1:29:38 GMT
how did he play for Wales when he started? We were talking about him on the Today's Games thread... Agree Stoke on Trent's a surprising place lol I thought he did well too, looked sharp to me, and pressed really well. He looked positive and up for it, it was his good bit of play that pulled their defence around and instigated the fine move that led to the goal.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 30, 2021 2:22:02 GMT
I've never really understood the obsession that some posters had (indeed still have) about Verlinden. Me neither. I’ve not seen enough of him to form a solid opinion but the way some on here harp on he’s George Best incarnate. His new club must have a shit manager too then if he’s not getting into the side... or maybe he isn’t that good? I think it was more the fact we let a home-grown, promising but largely untested young wide player who might have made a modest contribution to the first team go, and then signed about six promising but largely untested young wide players who have made - let’s be generous - modest contributions to the first team. And most of them aren’t ours, and one of them is slap bang in the middle of a long-term injury. You don’t have to think Verlinden is the new George Best to question that strategy.
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 30, 2021 5:30:07 GMT
Me neither. I’ve not seen enough of him to form a solid opinion but the way some on here harp on he’s George Best incarnate. His new club must have a shit manager too then if he’s not getting into the side... or maybe he isn’t that good? I think it was more the fact we let a home-grown, promising but largely untested young wide player who might have made a modest contribution to the first team go, and then signed about six promising but largely untested young wide players who have made - let’s be generous - modest contributions to the first team. And most of them aren’t ours, and one of them is slap bang in the middle of a long-term injury. You don’t have to think Verlinden is the new George Best to question that strategy. I think it's fair to say that Clarke's made a positive contribution and has a CV that suggests he's a much better player than Verlinden. Matondo's been rubbish, but you can see why we gambled on him. MON had clearly already made his mind up that Verlinden wasn't going to make it here, the same as every other manager we've had who's watched him close up.
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Post by slicko on Mar 30, 2021 6:52:51 GMT
Matondo started Saturday's friendly win over Mexico. How did he perform?
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Post by jaybee on Mar 30, 2021 7:09:40 GMT
He's been an unused sub in 8 games, and come on for 9 and 4 minutes respectively in the other 2 games...... I've never really understood the obsession that some posters had (indeed still have) about Verlinden. It seems that Doughty has taken up that mantle now!
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Mar 30, 2021 7:48:57 GMT
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Post by a on Mar 30, 2021 20:04:44 GMT
Me neither. I’ve not seen enough of him to form a solid opinion but the way some on here harp on he’s George Best incarnate. His new club must have a shit manager too then if he’s not getting into the side... or maybe he isn’t that good? I think it was more the fact we let a home-grown, promising but largely untested young wide player who might have made a modest contribution to the first team go, and then signed about six promising but largely untested young wide players who have made - let’s be generous - modest contributions to the first team. And most of them aren’t ours, and one of them is slap bang in the middle of a long-term injury. You don’t have to think Verlinden is the new George Best to question that strategy. I’m not talking about the strategy behind his move, just the over exaggeration of his ability, or rather overestimation given how little we’ve seen of him. Maybe he will turn into a great player and good luck to him but the way he is talked about on here you’d think we’d let Jadon Sancho go.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 30, 2021 20:08:57 GMT
I think it was more the fact we let a home-grown, promising but largely untested young wide player who might have made a modest contribution to the first team go, and then signed about six promising but largely untested young wide players who have made - let’s be generous - modest contributions to the first team. And most of them aren’t ours, and one of them is slap bang in the middle of a long-term injury. You don’t have to think Verlinden is the new George Best to question that strategy. I’m not talking about the strategy behind his move, just the over exaggeration of his ability, or rather overestimation given how little we’ve seen of him. Maybe he will turn into a great player and good luck to him but the way he is talked about on here you’d think we’d let Jadon Sancho go. Hadn't noticed really but fair enough
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 30, 2021 20:57:44 GMT
I think it was more the fact we let a home-grown, promising but largely untested young wide player who might have made a modest contribution to the first team go, and then signed about six promising but largely untested young wide players who have made - let’s be generous - modest contributions to the first team. And most of them aren’t ours, and one of them is slap bang in the middle of a long-term injury. You don’t have to think Verlinden is the new George Best to question that strategy. I’m not talking about the strategy behind his move, just the over exaggeration of his ability, or rather overestimation given how little we’ve seen of him. Maybe he will turn into a great player and good luck to him but the way he is talked about on here you’d think we’d let Jadon Sancho go. People just wanted him to be given a chance given how shite the players that were getting chances were.
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Post by a on Mar 30, 2021 21:30:33 GMT
I’m not talking about the strategy behind his move, just the over exaggeration of his ability, or rather overestimation given how little we’ve seen of him. Maybe he will turn into a great player and good luck to him but the way he is talked about on here you’d think we’d let Jadon Sancho go. People just wanted him to be given a chance given how shite the players that were getting chances were. Fair enough, but the manager isn’t going to trawl the oatcake for unsubstantiated claims about the lad’s abilities. We’ve had some shit players or at least shit attitudes in recent seasons I’ll give you that.
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 30, 2021 21:34:02 GMT
I miss Tom Ince.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 31, 2021 7:17:53 GMT
People just wanted him to be given a chance given how shite the players that were getting chances were. Fair enough, but the manager isn’t going to trawl the oatcake for unsubstantiated claims about the lad’s abilities. We’ve had some shit players or at least shit attitudes in recent seasons I’ll give you that. It’s gone a bit Brek Shea hasn’t it. People then were insisting he ‘hadn’t been given a chance’ while seemingly not connecting that there might be a very good reason for that.
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Post by yyy on Mar 31, 2021 10:30:39 GMT
I miss Tom Ince. I miss him too, like the dreaded lurgy
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 31, 2021 12:56:41 GMT
People just wanted him to be given a chance given how shite the players that were getting chances were. Fair enough, but the manager isn’t going to trawl the oatcake for unsubstantiated claims about the lad’s abilities. We’ve had some shit players or at least shit attitudes in recent seasons I’ll give you that. I woundn't expect the manager to go near to this site tbh but this site is a place to vent and discuss etc and thats all people were doing. It can be frustrating seeing players putting in constant sub par performances without any sign of being challenged by others in the squad, it doesn't seem a good way to manage imo, I've always prefered players getting picked on form.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 31, 2021 12:57:18 GMT
Fair enough, but the manager isn’t going to trawl the oatcake for unsubstantiated claims about the lad’s abilities. We’ve had some shit players or at least shit attitudes in recent seasons I’ll give you that. It’s gone a bit Brek Shea hasn’t it. People then were insisting he ‘hadn’t been given a chance’ while seemingly not connecting that there might be a very good reason for that. It wasn't because other players were performing though was it?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 31, 2021 13:03:16 GMT
It’s gone a bit Brek Shea hasn’t it. People then were insisting he ‘hadn’t been given a chance’ while seemingly not connecting that there might be a very good reason for that. It wasn't because other players were performing though was it? In both cases it's because they're dreadful isn't it?
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 31, 2021 13:19:39 GMT
Me neither. I’ve not seen enough of him to form a solid opinion but the way some on here harp on he’s George Best incarnate. His new club must have a shit manager too then if he’s not getting into the side... or maybe he isn’t that good? I think it was more the fact we let a home-grown, promising but largely untested young wide player who might have made a modest contribution to the first team go, and then signed about six promising but largely untested young wide players who have made - let’s be generous - modest contributions to the first team. And most of them aren’t ours, and one of them is slap bang in the middle of a long-term injury. You don’t have to think Verlinden is the new George Best to question that strategy. Verlinden isn’t fit to lace Clyde best’s boots let alone George best
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 31, 2021 13:39:13 GMT
It wasn't because other players were performing though was it? In both cases it's because they're dreadful isn't it? Shea, meh he was just a public relations gimick to get some american interest, but Verlinden had shown in previous showings he may have had what it takes and given what we were seeing on the pitch it wouldn't have done any harm to find out if he could cut it, if he couldn't oh well no loss, we'll never know now so we move on.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 31, 2021 13:46:05 GMT
In both cases it's because they're dreadful isn't it? Shea, meh he was just a public relations gimick to get some american interest, but Verlinden had shown in previous showings he may have had what it takes and given what we were seeing on the pitch it wouldn't have done any harm to find out if he could cut it, if he couldn't oh well no loss, we'll never know now so we move on. Apologies, I thought we were talking about Shea and Matondo. Got the wrong end of the stick.
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