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Post by SamB_SCFC on Dec 17, 2020 16:11:16 GMT
Shock horror a 25 yr old with buckets full of money and not much to do gets in a bit of bother, fuck me lets slaughter the cunt and hound him about it for the rest of his life eh. Gouranga. If it's just getting drunk in bars and clubs (in normal times), doing a line of coke, shagging around with loads of women etc then I'm less bothered. Like you say, young guys with loads of money doing the kind of things that lots of young guys would do if they had that kind of money. And the kind of daft mistakes that a lot of normal young people make anyway, they just aren't in the public spotlight so no one cares about it. Most of us have done a few things that would probably have made headlines if we were in the spotlight like footballers and people found out about it. But drink driving is different because it's not just yourself that you're putting at risk, it's everyone else on the road or pavements at that time too. You could kill or seriously injure innocent people and that's never acceptable in any circumstance. Take risks with your own health and own career with drink, drugs, prostitutes etc, that's your choice. But don't risk the lives of others. He's deservedly getting stick for this. It's even less acceptable when you consider the fact that he's so loaded that he could easily afford a 24 hour on call chauffeur to drive him anywhere he wants any time of day no matter how much drink he's had. So there's even less excuse for it.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 17, 2020 17:04:17 GMT
FFS how many more people are going to spout about him drink driving when he wasn't? He wasn't charged with drink driving so although lots of people are assuming he had a tipple there's absolutely no evidence to back this up, who's to say that the one witness who "smelt intoxicating liquor" was telling the truth? Having watched the video of the incident I can't even see a witness so I am assuming it's bullshit. If this were Tyrese I wonder how many on here would be so quick to vilify him and jump to the same conclusions without any evidence just their own assumption? Gouranga.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 17, 2020 17:26:34 GMT
FFS how many more people are going to spout about him drink driving when he wasn't? He wasn't charged with drink driving so although lots of people are assuming he had a tipple there's absolutely no evidence to back this up, who's to say that the one witness who "smelt intoxicating liquor" was telling the truth? Having watched the video of the incident I can't even see a witness so I am assuming it's bullshit. If this were Tyrese I wonder how many on here would be so quick to vilify him and jump to the same conclusions without any evidence just their own assumption? Gouranga. You appear to be deliberately missing the point, you have obviously watched the clip! Although he might not have been charged with drink driving, he was not in any fit state (under the influence or not) to drive that vehicle. He should have had the common sense not to get into that car. If he really was not under the influence, then how he ever passed his test I will never know. Either way he should not have been driving, he was very dangerous behind the wheel of a vehicle any which way you cut it!!
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 17, 2020 17:54:33 GMT
How the fuck do you know he "wasn't in any fit state" you're just making thing up now to fit with your obvious agenda. Have you ever had a car accident? Gouranga.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 17, 2020 18:12:21 GMT
How the fuck do you know he "wasn't in any fit state" you're just making thing up now to fit with your obvious agenda. Have you ever had a car accident? Gouranga. Yes I have, several in fact. That CCTV footage clearly shows that it was a little bit more than just an accident. During my incidents I managed not to collide with every stationery vehicle on the street and more importantly I stuck around to exchange my details with the other people involved. He could have done that after colliding with the van. He chose not to, decided to drive off. Then he had a change of mind making an already bad situation a lot, lot worse. My interpretation, admittedly from that brief video footage, was that he was not in full control of what he was doing and should not have been in charge of that vehicle. As you have pointed out this is just my opinion and I have no proof to back my interpretation of the situation. However I don't think he should have been driving that vehicle, at that time, and would fear for anyone on that street at that point! I do not think he should have got into that vehicle in the first place and he certainly should have realised that after he had hit the van and stopped at that point. Everything he did in that first clip suggests to me that his judgement was compromised!!
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Post by callas12 on Dec 17, 2020 18:30:28 GMT
How the fuck do you know he "wasn't in any fit state" you're just making thing up now to fit with your obvious agenda. Have you ever had a car accident? Gouranga. Your first line has just cancelled out your argument/debate in one foul swoop! Fact he's been found guilty of driving without due care and attention on basis of cctv footage alone is proof if any was needed he wasn't in any fit state to be driving. He hasn't just glanced a car whilst passing and it could be classed as an accident has he?! Would majority of members of the driving public who witnessed this footage, be shocked and pretty happy to say Grealish wasn't in any fit to be driving in that manner?! Im quite sure they would. Wonder if any person in a fit state would go running down the street after a party or even get into a car to drive wearing one fluffy slipper and a flip flop?! Hmm?! Its baffling your failing to see the point people are trying to make! Id of suspected you were a close mate or a family member of Grealish by way your carrying on but I know that they're all Villa fans so that isn't the case. I happen to think that despite being a dick on numerous occasions over the last few years, & aside from him diving alot for cheap free kicks, that he is actual a quality player and has the potential to be one of the best if he continues his footballing career without the off field antics he's been partial too. My argument certainly isn't from an anti Grealish perspective. If its was Tyrone Mings or Lee Hendrie, I'd be having the same opinion! I'll ask you this as your questioning the integrity of the witness. Why would he lie saying he smelt of booze and was unsteady on his feet, a big give away someone's been drink driving. This tied with the fact Grealish disappeared from the scene sharpish and after watching the cctv footage of his driving it all points to one thing. Granted not enough to convict in a court of law, but your constant whinge that no-one knows this for sure is naive to say the least..
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 17, 2020 19:46:09 GMT
I'm far from naive I'm a realist, and having read what you have just spouted again all I can deduce from it is that its your slanted assumption made form a preexisting opinion. There is no evidence to suggest he was under the influence of drink or drugs - none -zero - zilch. As for me questioning the integrity of the alleged "witness" (which is nowhere to be seen on the videos) perhaps he saw £ signs for giving his "expert opinion" on what he says he witnessed, we only have his word for it, he might even be a Brum supporter. Driving "without due care and attention" certainly isn't "proof" he was in "no fit state" to drive. I think your obvious agenda has clouded your opinion. I think I've now made my opinions perfectly clear and unlike some people I'm not willing to vilify a young man for what was a couple of minor motoring offences (and they were minor)regardless of my personal opinion of him. As such I am not adding anything more to this thread. Gouranga.
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Post by PenkPonther on Dec 17, 2020 21:44:20 GMT
That's all folks! Join us again for more Fighting Talk next week, when Albert will be Defending The Indefensible for 20 seconds... on why Vokes was right to take that penalty!
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Post by a on Dec 17, 2020 22:07:46 GMT
I'm far from naive I'm a realist, and having rad what you have just spouted again all I can deduce fro it is that its your slanted assumption made form a preexisting opinion. There is no evidence to suggest he was under the influence of drink or drugs - none -zero - zilch. As for me questioning the integrity of the alleged "witness" (which is nowhere to be seen on the videos) perhaps he saw £ signs for giving his "expert opinion" on what he says he witnessed, we only have his word for it, he might even be a Brum supporter. Driving "without due care and attention" certainly isn't "proof" he was in "no fit state" to drive. I think your obvious agenda has clouded your opinion. I think I've now made my opinions perfectly clear and unlike some people I'm not willing to vilify a young man for what was a couple of minor motoring offences (and they were minor)regardless of my personal opinion of him. As such I am not adding anything more to this thread. Gouranga. Thank god for that. Might allow the adults to talk now the kids have gone. Fancy seeing that driving and excusing it! Staggering. “No evidence” none other than the driving but that’s only because he wasn’t stopped while in or immediately after leaving the vehicle. The other instances on top show careless and inconsiderate driving, of which there is evidence. He’s been caught and I hope it serves as a lesson for him. You carry on thinking it’s ok, you quite obviously live in a fantasy land, I just hope that those you care about do too and nowhere near people who drive, or think that driving like Grealish has in those clips is acceptable or merely minor. Quite astonishing. GoHaveALieDown 🤡
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Post by a on Dec 17, 2020 22:08:56 GMT
That's all folks! Join us again for more Fighting Talk next week, when Albert will be Defending The Indefensible for 20 seconds... on why Vokes was right to take that penalty! ;-) “It was only a manslaughter, not a proper murder...”. 😂😂😂
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Post by pushon on Dec 18, 2020 1:11:21 GMT
I'm far from naive I'm a realist, and having read what you have just spouted again all I can deduce from it is that its your slanted assumption made form a preexisting opinion. There is no evidence to suggest he was under the influence of drink or drugs - none -zero - zilch. As for me questioning the integrity of the alleged "witness" (which is nowhere to be seen on the videos) perhaps he saw £ signs for giving his "expert opinion" on what he says he witnessed, we only have his word for it, he might even be a Brum supporter. Driving "without due care and attention" certainly isn't "proof" he was in "no fit state" to drive. I think your obvious agenda has clouded your opinion. I think I've now made my opinions perfectly clear and unlike some people I'm not willing to vilify a young man for what was a couple of minor motoring offences (and they were minor)regardless of my personal opinion of him. As such I am not adding anything more to this thread. Gouranga. You're wasting your time Albert,it seems hyper-critical and intransigent puritans have attained a tenuous foothold on the forum, just ignore them and they'll depart for their more natural habitat of castigating, teenage lesbian lovers, or whatever else they so vehemently opposed to.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 18, 2020 3:02:15 GMT
I'm far from naive I'm a realist, and having read what you have just spouted again all I can deduce from it is that its your slanted assumption made form a preexisting opinion. There is no evidence to suggest he was under the influence of drink or drugs - none -zero - zilch. As for me questioning the integrity of the alleged "witness" (which is nowhere to be seen on the videos) perhaps he saw £ signs for giving his "expert opinion" on what he says he witnessed, we only have his word for it, he might even be a Brum supporter. Driving "without due care and attention" certainly isn't "proof" he was in "no fit state" to drive. I think your obvious agenda has clouded your opinion. I think I've now made my opinions perfectly clear and unlike some people I'm not willing to vilify a young man for what was a couple of minor motoring offences (and they were minor)regardless of my personal opinion of him. As such I am not adding anything more to this thread. Gouranga. You're wasting your time Albert,it seems hyper-critical and intransigent puritans have attained a tenuous foothold on the forum, just ignore them and they'll depart for their more natural habitat of castigating, teenage lesbian lovers, or whatever else they so vehemently opposed to. Bizarre opinion to add to the debate!
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Dec 18, 2020 3:18:31 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Dec 18, 2020 3:18:31 GMT
I'm far from naive I'm a realist, and having read what you have just spouted again all I can deduce from it is that its your slanted assumption made form a preexisting opinion. There is no evidence to suggest he was under the influence of drink or drugs - none -zero - zilch. As for me questioning the integrity of the alleged "witness" (which is nowhere to be seen on the videos) perhaps he saw £ signs for giving his "expert opinion" on what he says he witnessed, we only have his word for it, he might even be a Brum supporter. Driving "without due care and attention" certainly isn't "proof" he was in "no fit state" to drive. I think your obvious agenda has clouded your opinion. I think I've now made my opinions perfectly clear and unlike some people I'm not willing to vilify a young man for what was a couple of minor motoring offences (and they were minor)regardless of my personal opinion of him. As such I am not adding anything more to this thread. Gouranga. Nope, absolutely no agenda whatsoever. Your entitled to your opinion no problems with that. Wish I saw things in the way you do though coz life would just be so fluffy and trouble-free! Unless things are absolutely stonewall you seem to be a person who appears to be blinded by the facts & what's been presented in front of you. Your the kind of guy who'll be saying the 2x Russians who visited Salisbury were purely sightseers & had nothing to do with the poisoning of the Skripal's coz they weren't actually caught in the act or caught with poison on them! Yes vastly different scenarios but everyone knows the Russian nationals were responsible for that just as everyone knows Jack was drunk on the night in question after he'd left a party he'd attended during lockdown period before hurriedly leaving the crime scene! Is that normal behaviour for someone whose just commited a 'Minor' motoring offence as you call it?! As for suggesting the witness may have been a Blues fan, would he really have anything to gain by saying he smelt alcohol on him if he hadn't?! Pictures taken at the scene do show Jack in close proximity to a bloke who was likely the witness he'd left his details with. I'm sure this fella made Jack run from the scene and disappear into thin air aswell did he before giving his account to the police?! Coz afterall Jack had nothing to hide by remaining with his vehicle did he?! 🤔🤔 But like you, I'll leave this thread be now. Gouranga to you to 😎
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Dec 18, 2020 5:15:14 GMT
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 18, 2020 5:15:14 GMT
It's amazing how he's been lauded as a hero these past few months. People have very short memories.
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Dec 18, 2020 11:47:06 GMT
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Post by stantheman on Dec 18, 2020 11:47:06 GMT
Why is there a 3 page thread about someone who has nothing to do with SCFC?
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 18, 2020 15:58:35 GMT
Why is there a 3 page thread about someone who has nothing to do with SCFC? There is a 9 page thread on this board about Solskjaer. Why don't you ask a similar question on that thread?
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Post by secondgoalincident on Dec 18, 2020 16:09:05 GMT
Should be imprisoned for six months and heavy fine. The morgue is full of people killed by Tits like this. OK he didn't kill anyone, but just lucky, on another day he could. Should be locked up end of story
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Dec 18, 2020 16:09:30 GMT
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Post by secondgoalincident on Dec 18, 2020 16:09:30 GMT
Should be imprisoned for six months and heavy fine. The morgue is full of people killed by Tits like this. OK he didn't kill anyone, but just lucky, on another day he could. Should be locked up end of story
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Post by klingon on Dec 18, 2020 16:22:56 GMT
Here's what "Upshot" (free) says..............
Jack Grealish continued on his path to Gazzadom this week by picking up a driving ban and a record fine for some definitely-not-drunk driving.
Back in March, the Villa midfielder stumbled out of a party in the early hours of the morning, hopped in his white Range Rover and proceeded to smash into two different parked cars. You can watch the CCTV footage here.
Witnesses say he was slurring and "reeked of alcohol" but Jack wisely fled on foot before police arrived.
He later blamed his bad driving on the fact he was wearing mismatched slippers at 6am. Which to us screams "coke bender" but to District Judge John Bristow apparently counts as a mitigating factor.
At the time, the tabloids were particularly angry because Grealish had posted an Instagram video just 24 hours earlier telling people to stay at home.
He is banned from driving for nine months, and was fined £82,500.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 16:34:10 GMT
Albert's fucking weird.
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Post by klingon on Dec 18, 2020 17:14:46 GMT
Who's Weird? Just a rumour?
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Post by a on Dec 19, 2020 0:35:02 GMT
It's amazing how he's been lauded as a hero these past few months. People have very short memories. He’s been brilliant but let’s separate football from driver I think he’s a brilliant footballer but this is and should be judged differently
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Dec 19, 2020 1:06:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 1:06:14 GMT
We need a few more like John Dryer. He never went over 3 miles an hour
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 19, 2020 1:30:49 GMT
Why is there a 3 page thread about someone who has nothing to do with SCFC? Its a football forum, he's a footballer 2+2=.......
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Post by a on Dec 19, 2020 10:33:53 GMT
Here's what "Upshot" (free) says.............. Jack Grealish continued on his path to Gazzadom this week by picking up a driving ban and a record fine for some definitely-not-drunk driving. Back in March, the Villa midfielder stumbled out of a party in the early hours of the morning, hopped in his white Range Rover and proceeded to smash into two different parked cars. You can watch the CCTV footage here. Witnesses say he was slurring and "reeked of alcohol" but Jack wisely fled on foot before police arrived. He later blamed his bad driving on the fact he was wearing mismatched slippers at 6am. Which to us screams "coke bender" but to District Judge John Bristow apparently counts as a mitigating factor. At the time, the tabloids were particularly angry because Grealish had posted an Instagram video just 24 hours earlier telling people to stay at home. He is banned from driving for nine months, and was fined £82,500. It’s hilarious that some people on here think that he crashed due to mismatched flip flops rather than being pissed! Probably still believe in Santa Claus too 😂 Thank god he didn’t kill or seriously injure anybody. Brilliant footballer but apparently a total idiot as well, they’re not mutually exclusive. Edit: not saying you believe that Klingon by the way
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Post by klingon on Dec 19, 2020 11:50:05 GMT
Not flip-flops - proper furry slippers!
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