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Post by ange1 on Dec 6, 2020 14:55:29 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2020 15:01:08 GMT
Are the club expecting Stoke on Trent to go into Tier 2 then Ange?
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Post by ange1 on Dec 6, 2020 15:02:51 GMT
No idea re Tier 2 but at some point we will be back in the stadium, sooner the better!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2020 15:11:14 GMT
No idea re Tier 2 but at some point we will be back in the stadium, sooner the better! How they’ll sort out who’ll be chosen to go will be very interesting |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 6, 2020 15:34:22 GMT
What is the point of the supporters council raising this with the club? I'd rather here it from the club direct.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 6, 2020 16:41:57 GMT
I think the OP was to raise morale a bit. Anyway, I don’t care if Lucifer tells me as long as we can go back soon👍.
SH’s who’ve watched through the ifollow first😉.
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Post by Scouse on Dec 6, 2020 16:57:45 GMT
What is / will be the councils , starting point / suggestion and red line .. will this stance be communicated to supporters ahead of the meeting here and via Twitter ..thanks |
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Post by ange1 on Dec 6, 2020 17:03:32 GMT
The Council will be asking what the club have in place, what the the club propose and will report back that information.
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Post by Scouse on Dec 6, 2020 17:05:27 GMT
The Council will be asking what the club have in place, what the the club propose and will report back that information. Thanks ..so unlike the first time around you won’t be taking a preferred option to the club ? can you ask for clarification regards the situation around hospitality places too ..Thanks in advance 👍 |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 6, 2020 17:11:07 GMT
The Council will be asking what the club have in place, what the the club propose and will report back that information. Exactly my point. What is the point of the 'council' asking those questions? When we may as well wait for the club to tell us direct. Complete waste of time... |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 6, 2020 17:13:21 GMT
The Council will be asking what the club have in place, what the the club propose and will report back that information. Thanks ..so unlike the first time around you won’t be taking a preferred option to the club ? can you ask for clarification regards the situation around hospitality places too ..Thanks in advance 👍 Scouse- you've heard it from the number one fan- they'll get clarification on what the position is and then play that back to us |
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Post by ange1 on Dec 6, 2020 17:16:46 GMT
We will ask the question Scouse thanks
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Post by Scouse on Dec 6, 2020 17:36:29 GMT
And one more ( sorry ) if the club has any intention of barring fans from outside of SOT from , ballots , applications ..even if that fan lives in a tier with a matching tier level or better to SOT .. as Everton have done
Hope this is seen as helpful / constructive ..like many my footballing supporting life has been ruined ( I genuinely mean ruined ) and I as many others will have , have real concerns , but forewarned is forearmed ..be it the hospitality route ( investigated for the red/ white solution ) to needing to rent property with a ST4 postcode ..or just crossing my fingers and toes for success in a ballot
sincerely
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Post by Scouse on Dec 6, 2020 18:03:35 GMT
An appeal folks ..
I understand people have their views re the council , but lots of people will have a variety of genuine concerns re fans return , allocation of places ( some specific to their own position , some with a more general slant ) two options exist to have those concerns at least heard ..contact the club direct or via the SC..your email may not be listened to with any more weight than the SC .. , but can we keep this thread to points of concern re the return of fans they wish the SC to take to the club ..and leave the sniping off ..the return is complicated enough
Thanks
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 6, 2020 18:12:05 GMT
I have knocked the Supporters Council in the past, but on the occasion I wish them all the luck with this.
This certainly isn't an easy task and I can only imagine the headaches it's gonna cause.
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Post by ab61 on Dec 6, 2020 18:14:34 GMT
The Council will be asking what the club have in place, what the the club propose and will report back that information. Exactly my point. What is the point of the 'council' asking those questions? When we may as well wait for the club to tell us direct. Complete waste of time... Looks like your being ignored on this one. Though I kinda see where your coming from. How difficult can it be. Season ticket ballet anyone in tier 2 ! |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 6, 2020 18:15:13 GMT
An appeal folks .. I understand people have their views re the council , but lots of people will have a variety of genuine concerns re fans return , allocation of places ( some specific to their own position , some with a more general slant ) two options exist to have those concerns at least heard ..contact the club direct or via the SC..your email may not be listened to with any more weight than the SC .. , but can we keep this thread to points of concern re the return of fans they wish the SC to take to the club ..and leave the sniping off ..the return is complicated enough Thanks Scouse, I understand what you are saying, but if the council simply asks questions, what is the point. Stoke will, I assume issue q&as, so if the club has anything about them then these 'questions' will already be covered by them. We shouldn't need a middleman asking the questions (adding no value whatsoever) |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 6, 2020 18:19:48 GMT
Exactly my point. What is the point of the 'council' asking those questions? When we may as well wait for the club to tell us direct. Complete waste of time... Looks like your being ignored on this one. Though I kinda see where your coming from. How difficult can it be. Season ticket ballet anyone in tier 2 ! You're, that's the first thing that's wrong with your post. Secondly, I don't doubt how difficult this is. The point that I am making is that in the words of ange the council are only going to ask questions. No point whatsoever..... |
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Post by Scouse on Dec 6, 2020 18:31:05 GMT
Dave , Don’t want to get embroiled but..
Genuinely , because sometimes a different perspective brings up problems , concerns that may not have been thought of or fed up the chain at the club ..often managers are reluctant to take sticking points / problem areas to their manager, CEO ..this is the opportunity that at least the CEO hears them unedited
will that make the club suddenly change track a180 degrees ( especially on items requiring budget adjustment ) .. perhaps not , but they might just tweak a decision.. or at least explain it in greater detail ..and it’s that tweak rather than a wholesale change that can make a difference to many
its why many companies employ continuous improvement , brain storming schemes ..the best ideas often come from those they impact the most , the shop floor or customers ..not departmental managers
For the record as an EB buyer the red & white solution wasn’t what I hoped for ..but recognise for others at the time it brought huge relief and promise , disappointment didn’t go close .. but sometimes you have to dust yourself down and look at the wider picture
This is one of our few chances
Regards
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Post by Scouse on Dec 6, 2020 18:32:17 GMT
Looks like your being ignored on this one. Though I kinda see where your coming from. How difficult can it be. Season ticket ballet anyone in tier 2 ! You're, that's the first thing that's wrong with your post. Secondly, I don't doubt how difficult this is. The point that I am making is that in the words of ange the council are only going to ask questions. No point whatsoever..... We don’t currently have any ST holders , if you’re successful in ballot 1 are you excluded until everyone has had a turn , or is each game / ballot done in isolation ? |
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Post by ab61 on Dec 6, 2020 18:38:52 GMT
You're, that's the first thing that's wrong with your post. Secondly, I don't doubt how difficult this is. The point that I am making is that in the words of ange the council are only going to ask questions. No point whatsoever..... We don’t currently have any ST holders Obviously it would be the season ticket holders from the season before it all kicked off ! |
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Post by ab61 on Dec 6, 2020 18:42:40 GMT
You're, that's the first thing that's wrong with your post. Secondly, I don't doubt how difficult this is. The point that I am making is that in the words of ange the council are only going to ask questions. No point whatsoever..... We don’t currently have any ST holders , if you’re successful in ballot 1 are you excluded until everyone has had a turn , or is each game / ballot done in isolation ? And yes. Seems fair and straight forward to me. |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 6, 2020 18:45:47 GMT
We don’t currently have any ST holders Obviously it would be the season ticket holders from the season before it all kicked off ! I've seen that another club(s) does a ballots based on length of season ticket. I think that's the fairest way go!! |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2020 18:51:43 GMT
Obviously it would be the season ticket holders from the season before it all kicked off ! I've seen that another club(s) does a ballots based on length of season ticket. I think that's the fairest way go!! I’ll bite for a change,length of season ticket is age discrimination surely🤔25 to 30 year old fans have no chance then🤔 |
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Post by Scouse on Dec 6, 2020 18:52:17 GMT
We don’t currently have any ST holders Obviously it would be the season ticket holders from the season before it all kicked off ! Quite possibly ..then you have to choose opt in or not .. some of those ST holders from 2019/20 will sadly have passed away ..some may not want to be considered ..if an automatic opt in are you going to risk sending deceased a success notification does every ST have a valid email , how will payment be made , succesful match basis ..pricing ? ..does that exclude those without a credit / debit card..or who prefer not to use online payment ..does everyone have access to the internet if opt in option ..what size window size to join the ballot ...Everton’s ballot web site failed They’re all in the hands of the club to resolve of course , but these are just some of the concerns fans will have |
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Post by dave1 on Dec 6, 2020 18:56:16 GMT
I've seen that another club(s) does a ballots based on length of season ticket. I think that's the fairest way go!! I’ll bite for a change,length of season ticket is age discrimination surely🤔25 to 30 year old fans have no chance then🤔 I'll give you that, I never thought of that.theres no easy way of doing it |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2020 18:58:25 GMT
I’ll bite for a change,length of season ticket is age discrimination surely🤔25 to 30 year old fans have no chance then🤔 I'll give you that, I never thought of that.theres no easy way of doing it I totally agree |
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Post by RF10 on Dec 6, 2020 19:10:20 GMT
I'll give you that, I never thought of that.theres no easy way of doing it I totally agree I still have my True Supporters Membership Card so I think I deserve to be chosen.  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 6, 2020 19:11:25 GMT
I still have my True Supporters Membership Card so I think I deserve to be chosen. Yes me too but was you one of the 500 at Colchester 🤣🤣 |
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2020 19:14:13 GMT
Surely only supporters who were at Stoke v Norwich in 1985, 4000 or so at that top flight game , should be allowed in?
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