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Post by crapslinger on Dec 6, 2020 17:38:16 GMT
That is not expressing their feelings that is a reaction, should players be aligning themselves with nationalism and socialism on a football pitch ? Wikipedia alert. Tis a fact Mo. you know something that is the truth not just made up as you usually do
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 6, 2020 17:38:38 GMT
So how can you assume others are offended by something they don't agree with? They also don't agree with something, yet you resort to name calling by labelling them Snowflakes just because its something you don't agree with. I'm not offended by Millwall fans booing, I just think it is wrong. I'm not offended by being called a Snowflake either, it just makes me think that the person using it is struggling to make a coherent argument. the struggle to make a coherent argument is all to clear with the racist card. Once dealt its impossible to come back from, it ends all arguments/conversations dead and allows the user to claim a moral high ground and superiority over others. Please explain your point with more clarity? Where is this Race Card? Please point it out specifically and define what you mean by it in my post? and I'm happy to discuss it. What and Where is this Race Card you refer to?
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 6, 2020 17:40:23 GMT
the struggle to make a coherent argument is all to clear with the racist card. Once dealt its impossible to come back from, it ends all arguments/conversations dead and allows the user to claim a moral high ground and superiority over others. Please explain your point with more clarity? Where is this Race Card? Please point it out specifically and define what you mean by it in my post? and I'm happy to discuss it. What and Where is this Race Card you refer to? I take it you haven't read the whole thread then ?
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 6, 2020 17:44:02 GMT
This loathsome, pathetic self-flagellation driven by the woke brigade was always going to end in tears when freedoms of ordinary, normal British people were restored. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The pro censorship, cancel culture mob propped up by the big virtue signalling corporates are now finally going to see the people rise against this utterly dumb bullshit. Woke politics has no place on a football pitch. It's got enough airtime with the BBC and Sky. Identity politics was always going to end up dividing more. History tells us that time and time again. The people have had enough of being told day after day what to do and think by a bunch of millionaire elites and are now rising up against this crazed wokedom - its great to see. I don't think I've ever read a post of yours that doesn't include the word 'woke'. Are you on commission? 😉
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 6, 2020 17:45:27 GMT
The problem with this type of gesture in sport is your either damned if you do damned if you don’t I do t agree with it full stop. However I can get on board with every club doing it at their first home game earlier in the summer when the cause was more in the news. I can see the argument that footballers are showing their support for the cause (not necessarily the political movement behind it) However once it carried on how do you stop. It took the nurse that started the clapping to organise the cessation. Once this taking the knee went past the stage of every club doing once at their home ground how do you stop?? You get to the stage where football fans just want to see a game of football not seeing the knee before every game wether that be on tv or in the ground. Millwall may have a bad reputation but those fans just want to watch a game of football. If they want politics they will turn on the news or get on the millwall mb eeb Causes such as this need to know when to stop and move to other ways to get their message across otherwise they may up alienating people to their cause which is worse than booing. It’s now ok to bash millwall and paint them as just racist but the truth is more they just want to watch a game of football not look at 22 players taking a political stance. On a similar but separate matter football authorities do not deal with the racism in the game so they can’t get on their moral horse now But don't you think its a total over-reaction. How long does this activity take up? 5-10 seconds? the same amount of time it takes to toss a coin and decide which way the teams are kicking, maybe less. Secondly, its obviously important to a lot of black footballers (its going to be even more important after the Millwall event I think) Should this not be respected considering how much black footballers have contributed to the game of football in this country and the shit they have had to endure for doing this. Total lack of respect and recognition for this imho.
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Post by dexta on Dec 6, 2020 17:48:14 GMT
How come this has been moved? because it will end up in a slanging match all controversial topics end up on the ee board.. Months ago this subject was on here and the original poster got slated saying he wouldn't go stoke again if they took the knee... He was a racist twat by many on here... Since then a lot of people who were giving him grief have changed there opinions... Calling someone a racist for having an opinion is fucking stupid its there opinion ffs
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 17:48:38 GMT
This loathsome, pathetic self-flagellation driven by the woke brigade was always going to end in tears when freedoms of ordinary, normal British people were restored. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The pro censorship, cancel culture mob propped up by the big virtue signalling corporates are now finally going to see the people rise against this utterly dumb bullshit. Woke politics has no place on a football pitch. It's got enough airtime with the BBC and Sky. Identity politics was always going to end up dividing more. History tells us that time and time again. The people have had enough of being told day after day what to do and think by a bunch of millionaire elites and are now rising up against this crazed wokedom - its great to see. I don't think I've ever read a post of yours that doesn't include the word 'woke'. Are you on commission? 😉 The Wokefinder General is a salaried position I think 🙂
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 6, 2020 17:50:32 GMT
Please explain your point with more clarity? Where is this Race Card? Please point it out specifically and define what you mean by it in my post? and I'm happy to discuss it. What and Where is this Race Card you refer to? I take it you haven't read the whole thread then ? Well I will invite you too, point out where I have used this Race Card AND define precisely what you mean by it? I'm very happy to learn more about it.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 6, 2020 17:54:40 GMT
How come this has been moved? because it will end up in a slanging match all controversial topics end up on the ee board.. Months ago this subject was on here and the original poster got slated saying he wouldn't go stoke again if they took the knee... He was a racist twat by many on here... Since then a lot of people who were giving him grief have changed there opinions... Calling someone a racist for having an opinion is fucking stupid its there opinion ffs Surely it depends on what the opinion is?
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Post by salopstick on Dec 6, 2020 17:57:26 GMT
The problem with this type of gesture in sport is your either damned if you do damned if you don’t I do t agree with it full stop. However I can get on board with every club doing it at their first home game earlier in the summer when the cause was more in the news. I can see the argument that footballers are showing their support for the cause (not necessarily the political movement behind it) However once it carried on how do you stop. It took the nurse that started the clapping to organise the cessation. Once this taking the knee went past the stage of every club doing once at their home ground how do you stop?? You get to the stage where football fans just want to see a game of football not seeing the knee before every game wether that be on tv or in the ground. Millwall may have a bad reputation but those fans just want to watch a game of football. If they want politics they will turn on the news or get on the millwall mb eeb Causes such as this need to know when to stop and move to other ways to get their message across otherwise they may up alienating people to their cause which is worse than booing. It’s now ok to bash millwall and paint them as just racist but the truth is more they just want to watch a game of football not look at 22 players taking a political stance. On a similar but separate matter football authorities do not deal with the racism in the game so they can’t get on their moral horse now But don't you think its a total over-reaction. How long does this activity take up? 5-10 seconds? the same amount of time it takes to toss a coin and decide which way the teams are kicking, maybe less. Secondly, its obviously important to a lot of black footballers (its going to be even more important after the Millwall event I think) Should this not be respected considering how much black footballers have contributed to the game of football in this country and the shit they have had to endure for doing this. Total lack of respect and recognition for this imho. When can people be sick of the gesture but understand the message though 1 game? 10 games? 100 games? Most normal people are not racist. People work all week have shit all week and just want to watch a game of football. I’d think more of football in the fight against racism if the FA, UEFA, FIFA and all the other football organisations did somthing about football in the game. It’s empty promises, empty gestures and empty punishments. This taking the knee has nothing to do with football. So it’s a bit hypocritical. For example Wayne Rooney and others can speak his mind about this matter all they want but there is zero chance he and others would pull the game if any racist abuse was directed at the players. Football needs to get its own house in order before trying to change the world.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 6, 2020 17:59:50 GMT
I take it you haven't read the whole thread then ? Well I will invite you too, point out where I have used this Race Card AND define precisely what you mean by it? I'm very happy to learn more about it. Apologies I misread your post, there are plenty of other posters on the thread that have been throwing racist cards and labels around, once again my mistake.
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Post by lee1982 on Dec 6, 2020 18:00:47 GMT
the struggle to make a coherent argument is all to clear with the racist card. Once dealt its impossible to come back from, it ends all arguments/conversations dead and allows the user to claim a moral high ground and superiority over others. Please explain your point with more clarity? Where is this Race Card? Please point it out specifically and define what you mean by it in my post? and I'm happy to discuss it. What and Where is this Race Card you refer to? earlier in the thread it was suggested by several posters that anyone booing at the Millwall game yesterday is a racist. No explanation no constructive argument. Its an all to familiar response when they get questioned to explain themselves, its racist and thats that!
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 6, 2020 18:04:21 GMT
Please explain your point with more clarity? Where is this Race Card? Please point it out specifically and define what you mean by it in my post? and I'm happy to discuss it. What and Where is this Race Card you refer to? earlier in the thread it was suggested by several posters that anyone booing at the Millwall game yesterday is a racist. No explanation no constructive argument. Its an all to familiar response when they get questioned to explain themselves, its racist and thats that! ‘Tis the oatcake way...... don’t be intimidated by sheik ..... he’s just not very bright that’s all ! 😁
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 18:08:51 GMT
earlier in the thread it was suggested by several posters that anyone booing at the Millwall game yesterday is a racist. No explanation no constructive argument. Its an all to familiar response when they get questioned to explain themselves, its racist and thats that! ‘Tis the oatcake way...... don’t be intimidated by sheik ..... he’s just not very bright that’s all ! 😁 And as if by magic. The racists gather like moths around a flame.
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Post by lee1982 on Dec 6, 2020 18:10:14 GMT
‘Tis the oatcake way...... don’t be intimidated by sheik ..... he’s just not very bright that’s all ! 😁 And as if by magic. The racists gather like moths around a flame. I rest my case
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 18:11:14 GMT
And as if by magic. The racists gather like moths around a flame. I rest my case If it looks like a racist, sounds like a racist and says racist things, well. ...
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Post by lee1982 on Dec 6, 2020 18:12:01 GMT
‘Tis the oatcake way...... don’t be intimidated by sheik ..... he’s just not very bright that’s all ! 😁 And as if by magic. The racists gather like moths around a flame. I can imagine you sticking your fingers in your ears just like a child would “ your all racists la la la la la la la “
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Post by lee1982 on Dec 6, 2020 18:13:09 GMT
If it looks like a racist, sounds like a racist and says racist things, well. ... show me the racism!?!?
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Dec 6, 2020 18:13:23 GMT
How come this has been moved? because it will end up in a slanging match all controversial topics end up on the ee board.. Months ago this subject was on here and the original poster got slated saying he wouldn't go stoke again if they took the knee... He was a racist twat by many on here... Since then a lot of people who were giving him grief have changed there opinions... Calling someone a racist for having an opinion is fucking stupid its there opinion ffs Suppose it’s a racist opinion ? Would that still be stupid ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 18:14:07 GMT
And as if by magic. The racists gather like moths around a flame. I can imagine you sticking your fingers in your ears just like a child would “ your all racists la la la la la la la “ Carry on booing young lads showing solidarity with each other and making the black players involved feel just awful. Seems about your level.
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Post by lee1982 on Dec 6, 2020 18:14:20 GMT
If it looks like a racist, sounds like a racist and says racist things, well. ... show me the racism!?!? i’ll wait.............
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 18:17:08 GMT
Click on their username and trawl through posting history. It will take you around three seconds to find.
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Post by lee1982 on Dec 6, 2020 18:17:53 GMT
I can imagine you sticking your fingers in your ears just like a child would “ your all racists la la la la la la la “ Carry on booing young lads showing solidarity with each other and making the black players involved feel just awful. Seems about your level. Who is booing? I have said from the start i didnt boo, i wasnt there for starters. What i said is i dont consider those that did boo to be racist. I tried to put my reasons across for this. You... what do you do? You find the easiest way out of a discussion that you can and play the race card, almost child like “ im right your wrong la la la” dont talk to me about levels lad.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 18:19:23 GMT
Carry on booing young lads showing solidarity with each other and making the black players involved feel just awful. Seems about your level. Who is booing? I have said from the start i didnt boo, i wasnt there for starters. What i said is i dont consider those that did boo to be racist. I tried to put my reasons across for this. You... what do you do? You find the easiest way out of a discussion that you can and play the race card, almost child like “ im right your wrong la la la” dont talk to me about levels lad. You've spent a whole day not only justifying the booing but welcoming it; forgive me if I thought you would do so given the opportunity.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 6, 2020 18:20:20 GMT
‘Tis the oatcake way...... don’t be intimidated by sheik ..... he’s just not very bright that’s all ! 😁 And as if by magic. The racists gather like moths around a flame. Are the Labour Party here
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Post by lee1982 on Dec 6, 2020 18:20:37 GMT
Who is booing? I have said from the start i didnt boo, i wasnt there for starters. What i said is i dont consider those that did boo to be racist. I tried to put my reasons across for this. You... what do you do? You find the easiest way out of a discussion that you can and play the race card, almost child like “ im right your wrong la la la” dont talk to me about levels lad. You've spent a whole day not only justifying the booing but welcoming it; forgive me if I thought you would do so given the opportunity. go on find said evidence
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 6, 2020 18:23:07 GMT
Who is booing? I have said from the start i didnt boo, i wasnt there for starters. What i said is i dont consider those that did boo to be racist. I tried to put my reasons across for this. You... what do you do? You find the easiest way out of a discussion that you can and play the race card, almost child like “ im right your wrong la la la” dont talk to me about levels lad. You've spent a whole day not only justifying the booing but welcoming it; forgive me if I thought you would do so given the opportunity. Even if he did boo why would that make him racist Mo.use ? is this just your warped opinion again try dealing with facts for once.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 6, 2020 18:24:30 GMT
You've spent a whole day not only justifying the booing but welcoming it; forgive me if I thought you would do so given the opportunity. go on find said evidence And that mate will be the end of that he doesn't give straight answers he's not very bright.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 18:25:33 GMT
You've spent a whole day not only justifying the booing but welcoming it; forgive me if I thought you would do so given the opportunity. go on find said evidence As I say there's a thing called posting history. Glasgow exposed you on it perfectly adequately earlier today.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 6, 2020 18:26:00 GMT
And that mate will be the end of that he doesn't give straight answers he's not very bright. Hi racist.
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