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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2020 9:24:54 GMT
Roy Race Hot Shot Hamish Billy Dane ? ? Ross Nelson from Glipton Grasshoppers surely deserves a mention
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Nov 26, 2020 9:26:04 GMT
I wanted to include a defender just because I love defenders but was trying to think who would come out as the best CB ever and wasn’t really sure. Baresi? Moore? (Guess that’s English bias) Beckenbauer? In my short 30 years, I would say Ramos is up there as one of the greatest CB I've seen.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 26, 2020 9:32:23 GMT
1) maradonna 2) best 3) pirlo 4) messi 5) Carlos Alberto Pirlo better than Messi? Really? In my eyes you look at the all the awards in football always tend to go to front men the engine room rarely get the credit they deserve
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 26, 2020 9:43:42 GMT
I’m surprised Paulo Maldini hasn’t been in more picks but I guess people like to go for attacking players. Buffon was also close to making my list.
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Post by thfc67 on Nov 26, 2020 10:50:47 GMT
Roy Race Hot Shot Hamish Billy Dane ? ? Gorgeous Gus Billy the Fish
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Post by noustie on Nov 26, 2020 10:59:35 GMT
The little wren a great footballer It's a bit of a cheat really cos he's well before my time and there's so little decent footage of him playing I can't really judge it myself. But I read a book about the history of Brazilian football a few years ago and was so captivated by the description and his story I always put him in. A good number of older Brazilians rate him ahead of Pele. Saw a documentary a few years back where they were saying quite a few Brazilians thought Garrincha was a better player but Pele had longevity plus was one of the first sportsmen to manage their brand – Garrincha was more interested in going home to drink and shag! Pele got injured early in 62 and Garrincha pretty much carried that team to the trophy – mad really with one leg six inches shorter than the other and knees bent inwards! Watched the 1970 world cup final a few years back in full and Pele didn’t really stand out above Rivelino (what a wand!) and Jairzinho – Gerson was absolute liquid. The other thing was Italy were well in it until they obviously tired at 60 minutes given extra time previously. In between the wars Sindelar of Austria was supposed to be absolutely amazing and this is an interesting read – on the documentary it references an Austrian who played in the 34 semi said the goal was miles offside, the ref gave Italy everything, the ref actually got in the way of a one-two on purpose and Mussolini invited him to ref the final: www.fourfourtwo.com/features/goal-defied-nazis-and-killed-a-legend-0In my lifetime the first player who probably stood out a mile to me was Baresi watching Italian football on channel Four – I was probably only 12 but was accustomed to defenders just hoofing everything out. He could do that when needed but he’d also take the ball down in his own box then run 50-60 yards up the pitch with it or ping a worldy of a through ball. Remember an interview with Platt I think who swapped shirts with him after the 3rd place game at Italia 90 – Platt says his was piss wet through with sweat when he took it off and he was absolutely knackered; Baresi’s was bone dry, smelt of his aftershave and he wasn't even breathing heavy.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 26, 2020 11:03:33 GMT
I'd have Stanley Matthew's and Gordon Banks on my list.
*I have to say having read a number of other lists I'd have Christian Ronaldo over Messi.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 26, 2020 14:34:01 GMT
Maradona Pele Puskas Messi Cruyff
OS.
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Post by Veritas on Nov 26, 2020 14:56:43 GMT
From mid 60's onwards.
Pele Maradona Cruyff C Ronaldo Beckenbauer
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Post by Miles Offside on Nov 26, 2020 15:21:25 GMT
Messi
Ronaldo
Cruyff, Pele Maradona Stan,
Yeah, I know, that's six.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 26, 2020 15:24:07 GMT
1 pele 2 Mathews 3 banks 4 best 5 messi
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Post by mattyd2 on Nov 26, 2020 16:32:22 GMT
No way I can vote for the cheating smack head. 1..Pele 2..Messi. 3..Cruyff 4..Henry. 5..Kitson.
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Post by hughjarse on Nov 26, 2020 17:25:49 GMT
No way I can vote for the cheating smack head. 1..Pele 2..Messi. 3..Cruyff 4..Henry. 5..Kitson. Vote ????? This is just an irrelevant exchange of opinions not a fucking election
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 26, 2020 17:27:43 GMT
Not necessarily in order
Maradona Cruyff Pele Messi Maldini
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Post by lordb on Nov 26, 2020 17:27:55 GMT
Ronaldo is obviously very very good but I just can’t comprehend how anyone can think he’s better than Messi. Bar heading there is nothing he does better. Apart from marketing. Proper Ronaldo is the better Ronaldo imo too. Think Xavi and Iniesta deserve a mention. They’re not better than your Messi’s, Maradona etc but in my lifetime they are the elite. From what I know though I’d go in no order: Pele Maradona Cruyff Messi Puskas What C.Ronaldo does better than Messi is drive his team onto wins Messi is the (ultimate) icing on the cake, Ronaldo is a winner In terms of technical ability, yes of course Messi is better I'd pick Ronaldo all day long
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2020 17:28:42 GMT
No way I can vote for the cheating smack head. 1..Pele 2..Messi. 3..Cruyff 4..Henry. 5..Kitson. What the hell are you talking about?????? Pele couldn’t lace Kitson’s boots!😉
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Post by mattyd2 on Nov 26, 2020 17:30:08 GMT
No way I can vote for the cheating smack head. 1..Pele 2..Messi. 3..Cruyff 4..Henry. 5..Kitson. Vote ????? This is just an irrelevant exchange of opinions not a fucking election Fucking hell...Calm down...
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 26, 2020 17:30:39 GMT
No way I can vote for the cheating smack head. 1..Pele 2..Messi. 3..Cruyff 4..Henry. 5..Kitson. What the hell are you talking about?????? Pele couldn’t lace Kitson’s boots!😉 I'd have Karl Henry higher up as well
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Post by mattyd2 on Nov 26, 2020 17:31:12 GMT
No way I can vote for the cheating smack head. 1..Pele 2..Messi. 3..Cruyff 4..Henry. 5..Kitson. What the hell are you talking about?????? Pele couldn’t lace Kitson’s boots!😉 All that viagra gave him stiff fingers.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 17:32:06 GMT
Ronaldo is obviously very very good but I just can’t comprehend how anyone can think he’s better than Messi. Bar heading there is nothing he does better. Apart from marketing. Proper Ronaldo is the better Ronaldo imo too. Think Xavi and Iniesta deserve a mention. They’re not better than your Messi’s, Maradona etc but in my lifetime they are the elite. From what I know though I’d go in no order: Pele Maradona Cruyff Messi Puskas What C.Ronaldo does better than Messi is drive his team onto wins Messi is the (ultimate) icing on the cake, Ronaldo is a winner In terms of technical ability, yes of course Messi is better I'd pick Ronaldo all day long Ah ok. That's why he won so many La Liga's............2 in 9 seasons.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2020 17:33:01 GMT
What the hell are you talking about?????? Pele couldn’t lace Kitson’s boots!😉 All that viagra gave him stiff fingers. That’s uncanny, I’ve just typed viagra on the change a letter word game thread😉
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Post by lordb on Nov 26, 2020 17:34:32 GMT
What C.Ronaldo does better than Messi is drive his team onto wins Messi is the (ultimate) icing on the cake, Ronaldo is a winner In terms of technical ability, yes of course Messi is better I'd pick Ronaldo all day long Ah ok. That's why he won so many La Liga's............2 in 9 seasons. I'd venture that's 2 more than if he hadn't have been in the team If Messi had been at Real & Ronaldo at Barca would suggest it would have been 0 titles for Messi in that time i.e. Barca team (the other ten) were clearly superior to Real (the other ten)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 17:37:14 GMT
Ah ok. That's why he won so many La Liga's............2 in 9 seasons. I'd venture that's 2 more than if he hadn't have been in the team If Messi had been at Real & Ronaldo at Barca would suggest it would have been 0 titles for Messi in that time i.e. Barca team (the other ten) were clearly superior to Real (the other ten) It's Real Madrid ffs Messi is the better footballer at every aspect bar heading and has won shit tons and has carried Barcelona too and carried Argentina to a World Cup final. It's a nonsense argument. As mentioned, Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo ever.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 26, 2020 18:01:31 GMT
Ah ok. That's why he won so many La Liga's............2 in 9 seasons. I'd venture that's 2 more than if he hadn't have been in the team If Messi had been at Real & Ronaldo at Barca would suggest it would have been 0 titles for Messi in that time i.e. Barca team (the other ten) were clearly superior to Real (the other ten) I think you're overlooking what Messi did when Barca were top dogs in the late noughties,early 2010s - he won Champions League finals for them by being head and shoulders above the opposition. Some of the goals he scored were unbelievable. Yes he had Xavi and Iniesta in there as well but he was something else.
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Post by madeleyite on Nov 26, 2020 18:06:59 GMT
Maradona Pele Matthews Muller Best
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Post by Goonie on Nov 26, 2020 18:08:31 GMT
Is this the Tom Ince thread?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2020 18:10:36 GMT
Is this the Tom Ince thread? I doubt Tom Ince would be in the top 5 in his family
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 26, 2020 18:20:29 GMT
I'd venture that's 2 more than if he hadn't have been in the team If Messi had been at Real & Ronaldo at Barca would suggest it would have been 0 titles for Messi in that time i.e. Barca team (the other ten) were clearly superior to Real (the other ten) It's Real Madrid ffs Messi is the better footballer at every aspect bar heading and has won shit tons and has carried Barcelona too and carried Argentina to a World Cup final. It's a nonsense argument. As mentioned, Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo ever. Not even the second best!
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 26, 2020 18:43:10 GMT
Mine is quite limited as I'm Only 31 but Fat Ronaldo Ronaldinho Roberto Carlos Gascoine Zidane Honorable mentions to Maldini, Pirlo, Buffon, Messi and Ronaldo
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Post by misterj on Nov 26, 2020 19:58:54 GMT
Best Pele Messi Maradona Cruyff (Stoke fans saw the first two at Victoria Ground)
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