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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 31, 2020 17:08:40 GMT
Ok made it, 3 points in the bag, no complaints or not exactly - and you have to say, a vindication for the pick your games rotation system that gave us the Swansea performance since injuries allowing we got the first X1 back for the winnable match. Infinitely better team selection was the basis of everything, which has been the story most of this season - but it was only Rotherham, they'll be fighting relegation all season I suspect, Mick really should have been after better than 1-0.
7 from me
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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 31, 2020 17:09:53 GMT
another poor performance really, cant be more than a 6. Correct team, poor tactics and/or poor motivation. Lazy is the best word. I'd give a 5.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 31, 2020 17:10:07 GMT
8 at least for me, right set up, right players given the inuries, hopefully he doesn't decide to completely change it again for the next game.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 31, 2020 17:12:20 GMT
Line up and shape prob best it could've been, urgency and lack of quality from players let him down. 7
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 17:12:56 GMT
8.
Played the right side and a balanced side. Good starting lineup and sensible subs at the right time.
Performance was sloppy but that was down to those on the pitch making poor decisions.
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 31, 2020 17:13:07 GMT
8
Easy win in poor conditions, but we have two much tougher games to come over the next week.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 17:17:59 GMT
Ok made it, 3 points in the bag, no complaints or not exactly - and you have to say, a vindication for the pick your games rotation system that gave us the Swansea performance since injuries allowing we got the first X1 back for the winnable match. Infinitely better team selection was the basis of everything, which has been the story most of this season - but it was only Rotherham, they'll be fighting relegation all season I suspect, Mick really should have been after better than 1-0. 7 from me 8 - I enjoyed the game. The second half was much less exciting than the first, but him reverting to a back four was a good sign. We were very much a 'nearly' team. Broke fast with the ball, caused a few problems, never really looked like conceding (barring one cross come shot that hit the bar).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 17:18:37 GMT
Probably 6
It's good that we're winning the rotherhams and the lutons.
Not convincing though.
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 31, 2020 17:21:15 GMT
Ok made it, 3 points in the bag, no complaints or not exactly - and you have to say, a vindication for the pick your games rotation system that gave us the Swansea performance since injuries allowing we got the first X1 back for the winnable match. Infinitely better team selection was the basis of everything, which has been the story most of this season - but it was only Rotherham, they'll be fighting relegation all season I suspect, Mick really should have been after better than 1-0. 7 from me 8 - I enjoyed the game. The second half was much less exciting than the first, but him reverting to a back four was a good sign. We were very much a 'nearly' team. Broke fast with the ball, caused a few problems, never really looked like conceding (barring one cross come shot that hit the bar). You're right about the back four, that's a good sign fingers crossed
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 31, 2020 17:22:01 GMT
7. Right team. Let down by some of the players
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 31, 2020 17:22:19 GMT
Tried another formation and we were not any better really.
7
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 31, 2020 17:23:49 GMT
Can't fault MON too much, the performance was sloppy but it was the correct setup. Use it next game but we have to perform at a much better level.
8
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Post by jarhead on Oct 31, 2020 17:26:14 GMT
Right team to pick but the lack of energy from the players and sloppiness on the ball is amateur. He needs to get firm with them.
It’s happening Every game.
5.5
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2020 17:28:15 GMT
8. Showed he was flexible, picked a balanced side that had some creativity, wasn't his fault that those players weren't quite at it.
Ironic that it took a change to the system he thought was too open to deliver a clean sheet at home, but that might just be because Rotherham were crap.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 31, 2020 17:33:43 GMT
Pleased he showed he was open to a move back to 4 at the back and thought we were okay in a first half where we were threatening to look good, but never quite managing it.
Ground it out in the second and never really looked in any trouble, but we were increasingly uninspiring and sloppy as the game went on.
It'd be churlish to go lower than 7 with 3 points banked in pretty routine fashion, but it was all a bit laboured.
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Post by christhepotter on Oct 31, 2020 17:47:53 GMT
6 was good he went to a back 4 , but was still a poor performance, it’s his job to motivate the players and they came out worse second half
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Post by reddipotter on Oct 31, 2020 17:54:33 GMT
Certainly some sloppiness in possession. A scrappy game mainly because that’s what Rotherham wanted. We matched them in the battle and those are games you need to win. 7
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 31, 2020 17:56:33 GMT
8. Showed he was flexible, picked a balanced side that had some creativity, wasn't his fault that those players weren't quite at it. Ironic that it took a change to the system he thought was too open to deliver a clean sheet at home, but that might just be because Rotherham were crap. So If the players aren't at it when he plays 3 at the back it's his fault? Good logic
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Post by chiswickpotter on Oct 31, 2020 18:01:31 GMT
7 This season is going to be a grind for every team, good we can rotate and give young players minutes. Given we have Shawcross, Collins, Clucas, Davies and Allen unavailable out of our best XI and Powell carrying a knock this week, it was a useful win. With our large squad it’s about staying in contention and hopefully finishing strong
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2020 18:02:51 GMT
8. Showed he was flexible, picked a balanced side that had some creativity, wasn't his fault that those players weren't quite at it. Ironic that it took a change to the system he thought was too open to deliver a clean sheet at home, but that might just be because Rotherham were crap. So If the players aren't at it when he plays 3 at the back it's his fault? Good logic It’s just a coincidence then that they’re more frequently not at it in terms of creating chances when he goes with the three at the back then?
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 31, 2020 18:04:31 GMT
So If the players aren't at it when he plays 3 at the back it's his fault? Good logic It’s just a coincidence then that they’re more frequently not at it in terms of creating chances when he goes with the three at the back then? What I saw today was pretty much the same as we've served up all season really because the players haven't been fully at it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2020 18:06:42 GMT
It’s just a coincidence then that they’re more frequently not at it in terms of creating chances when he goes with the three at the back then? What I saw today was pretty much the same as we've served up all season really because the players haven't been fully at it. Campbell clearly wasn’t at his best today. Powell tried but couldn’t quite make it happen. Both have had much better games than they did today. Why do you see anyone offering even the mildest criticism as treason?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 18:09:05 GMT
8. Showed he was flexible, picked a balanced side that had some creativity, wasn't his fault that those players weren't quite at it. Ironic that it took a change to the system he thought was too open to deliver a clean sheet at home, but that might just be because Rotherham were crap. So If the players aren't at it when he plays 3 at the back it's his fault? Good logic We had performances like this last year when he used a back four. That can happen with any system. There is no silver bullet. Playing a number of players in an awkward position, like he's done with Smith, Fox, McClean and Powell when he used a back five, is making your job harder and making it less likely to drag good performances out of players you are asking to do a job in an awkward position.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 31, 2020 18:10:25 GMT
What I saw today was pretty much the same as we've served up all season really because the players haven't been fully at it. Campbell clearly wasn’t at his best today. Powell tried but couldn’t quite make it happen. Both have had much better games than they did today. Why do you see anyone offering even the mildest criticism as treason? What are you on about? I'm critising the performance. But there's some treating this as a win when in fact we were no better today than we were with 3 at the back.
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Post by kjpt140v on Oct 31, 2020 18:11:28 GMT
10
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2020 18:11:41 GMT
Campbell clearly wasn’t at his best today. Powell tried but couldn’t quite make it happen. Both have had much better games than they did today. Why do you see anyone offering even the mildest criticism as treason? What are you on about? I'm critising the performance. But there's some treating this as a win when in fact we were no better today than we were with 3 at the back. You’ve been very cross about people criticising the manager for the three at the back and seem to be suggesting the performance today is one in the eye for those people.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 31, 2020 18:15:47 GMT
What are you on about? I'm critising the performance. But there's some treating this as a win when in fact we were no better today than we were with 3 at the back. You’ve been very cross about people criticising the manager for the three at the back and seem to be suggesting the performance today is one in the eye for those people. Oh an opposing opinion from the luminate? I'm sorry. You're not getting it are you? Again, We were no better today than we've been at any point of the season. But today it's because the players weren't at it but that was met with heresy when it was suggested before.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 31, 2020 18:18:10 GMT
Picked the team most people would have picked given the injuries but weather conditions were atrocious which probably didn't help the players'performances. Nothing wrong with the tactics.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 31, 2020 18:19:17 GMT
You’ve been very cross about people criticising the manager for the three at the back and seem to be suggesting the performance today is one in the eye for those people. Oh an opposing opinion from the luminate? I'm sorry. You're not getting it are you? Again, We were no better today than we've been at any point of the season. But today it's because the players weren't at it but that was met with heresy when it was suggested before. Which again, brings us back to why they ‘just aren’t at it’ more consistently in one formation than the other? It’s almost as if it’s inhibiting them? The difference is that we’ve seen 4-2-3-1 work quite effectively over a period of time and produce good, entertaining, effective performances and 3-4-3 hasn’t come close to offering that same level of performance with any regularity.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 31, 2020 18:20:23 GMT
Won the game. Was flexible so 7.
Another awful game to watch though even though we had better intention.
I dread to think what we'll serve up away against two teams above us in the league in the next two games.
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