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Post by Fred Merger on Oct 4, 2020 15:57:57 GMT
Slow out of the blocks again no pace up front. Need to show much more intent going forward at home. Showing teams far too much respect and allowing them onto us. Grow some bollocks and start with Campbell or Brown next to Fletcher.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 4, 2020 15:59:12 GMT
OR AWAY!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 15:59:28 GMT
Just don't start Gregory at all for any game!
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Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 4, 2020 16:10:57 GMT
Gregory actually made some things happen today More down to the manager and his formation. But I do agree that it is criminal that he starts in front of Campbell
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 16:13:39 GMT
In short:
"Like the centre-forward, the traditional role of a striker is to score goals; strikers are therefore known for their ability to peel off defenders and to run into space via the blind side of the defender and to receive the ball in a good goalscoring position..." -Wikipedia
Gregory, all he ever does is "shield the ball"...
His name and shield can never be separated.
Well at least what i gathered from all the commentators.
Mr Shield he is.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 4, 2020 16:14:53 GMT
Gregory should be nowhere near the team,he's already cost 1 manager his job.
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 4, 2020 16:15:28 GMT
Smacks of an overtly defensive mindset. Difficult to understand tbh
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 4, 2020 16:16:27 GMT
You've spelled "ever again" wrong in the title
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 4, 2020 16:16:34 GMT
Better still don't start with him at all and, if possible, get rid.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 4, 2020 16:18:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 16:19:58 GMT
Can not fault the lads effort and workrate. However let’s judge him at what he’s getting paid to do... play football... HE IS WANK
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Post by Fred Merger on Oct 4, 2020 16:20:57 GMT
Absolutely shocking finisher.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 20:52:40 GMT
I can’t believe he’s being used again.
There’s just no reason for it.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 4, 2020 20:54:26 GMT
A total waste of space.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 4, 2020 20:57:48 GMT
It's like we don't WANT to win, playing Gregory and Oakley Booth instead of our two best players, campbell and Powell.
Crazy
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Post by sensiblestokie on Oct 5, 2020 1:11:48 GMT
Don’t start with Gregory again never mind at home.
I feel for him because he doesn’t piss about, he runs his absolute knackers off every game. It’s just that he isn’t going to score goals.
Since we’ve signed him almost every game there is a big chance for him and he just 90% of the time misses them.
If we continue to play Gregory as our striker then we can hope for mid table at best.
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Post by s7oke on Oct 5, 2020 3:33:52 GMT
It's like we don't WANT to win, playing Gregory and Oakley Booth instead of our two best players, campbell and Powell. Crazy Two of our best 3 you mean You’re forgetting Davies 😁 |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 5, 2020 5:46:50 GMT
How many goals has he scored in his carear?
I will be suprised if its better than 1 in 7.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 5, 2020 6:29:33 GMT
Thought TOB did OK the big liability was Clucas who was dreadful yesterday. He made a huge contribution last season but hasn’t been at the races this and when he doesn’t score his contribution is pretty average.
When Joes fit I’d bring him in alongside Obi.
That said compared to some of our starts from recent seasons 5 from 4 isn’t too bad especially as our opposition are all teams established in the league. We haven’t played any of the likely bottom 6 yet.
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Post by philb on Oct 5, 2020 6:50:21 GMT
How many goals has he scored in his carear? I will be suprised if its better than 1 in 7. According to Soccerbase: 238 League Appearances 101 Goals |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 7:18:38 GMT
Regardless of who plays up front we need to create chances. Gregory is a 1 in 3 chance to shot on target kind of player and we are yet to see how efficient Fletcher is.
We know Vokes is similar to Gregory.
Yesterday Gregory had one chance off that cross and Fletcher only had the free kicks. You can tell he is desperate to get his first goal.
We just aren't creating enough chances for our forwards.
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Post by jeycov on Oct 5, 2020 7:49:35 GMT
How many goals has he scored in his carear? I will be suprised if its better than 1 in 7. 2 pretty crucial ones in our very important games at the end of last season as I recall, particularly in the vital game v Brentford Yes we still have several weeks where there is a midweek game as well as weekend fixtures and there will be some rotation, but wholesale changes are a bit risky if we want to develop a balanced set up MON sees him as part of our trimmed down squad, agree he shouldn't be in the starting 11 most of the time, but there are quite a few that should be ahead of him in moving away from the club imo |
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Post by thehoof on Oct 5, 2020 7:50:25 GMT
How many goals has he scored in his carear? I will be suprised if its better than 1 in 7. According to Soccerbase: 238 League Appearances 101 Goals Soccerbase need to go and check their stats. If he was a consistent 20 goal a season striker ( which is what those stats say over a 46 game season) he wouldn’t have been spending his time at either Millwall or Stoke. |
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Post by unknown182 on Oct 5, 2020 7:57:59 GMT
According to Soccerbase: 238 League Appearances 101 Goals Soccerbase need to go and check their stats. If he was a consistent 20 goal a season striker ( which is what those stats say over a 46 game season) he wouldn’t have been spending his time at either Millwall or Stoke. He started in the lower leagues to be fare. Most of his goals are from then. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 8:05:17 GMT
According to Soccerbase: 238 League Appearances 101 Goals Soccerbase need to go and check their stats. If he was a consistent 20 goal a season striker ( which is what those stats say over a 46 game season) he wouldn’t have been spending his time at either Millwall or Stoke. In league football, it's 71 in 246 appearances at League One and Championship level for us and Millwall. He scored a ridiculous 82 in 129 for Halifax in non-league, which skews his stats somewhat. |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 5, 2020 8:12:03 GMT
We knew exactly what he was when we signed him a one paced willing work horse lower to mid table player, I don't understand why anyone expects anything different, MON set out his expectations when he decided Gregory was part of his plans.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 5, 2020 8:13:08 GMT
Regardless of who plays up front we need to create chances. Gregory is a 1 in 3 chance to shot on target kind of player and we are yet to see how efficient Fletcher is. We know Vokes is similar to Gregory. Yesterday Gregory had one chance off that cross and Fletcher only had the free kicks. You can tell he is desperate to get his first goal. We just aren't creating enough chances for our forwards. He should bury that chance. It's the same every game, he misses an absolute sitter. And yes it's good he's getting them but he consistently misses them. I still can't believe he's starting. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 8:24:58 GMT
Regardless of who plays up front we need to create chances. Gregory is a 1 in 3 chance to shot on target kind of player and we are yet to see how efficient Fletcher is. We know Vokes is similar to Gregory. Yesterday Gregory had one chance off that cross and Fletcher only had the free kicks. You can tell he is desperate to get his first goal. We just aren't creating enough chances for our forwards. He should bury that chance. It's the same every game, he misses an absolute sitter. And yes it's good he's getting them but he consistently misses them. I still can't believe he's starting. Yes he should bury that chance but we saw with Vokes at Villa park, he is capable of missing those types of chances too. Gregory at Preston was the typical benchmark - scored one chance but missed two sitters. Like I said, he's a one in three striker. The overall point though is that we aren't creating enough. Campbell is our best finisher IMO and he would struggle to score in this team. I can't remember the last time we created a real chance for him, when he's played for us this season. We just need to bin this formation off and get Powell closer to the main striker and have Campbell coming in off the wings. It worked a treat last season and really didn't need changing - just enhancing All we needed to do over the summer was buy a proper left back, a natural left back, a defensive midfielder to lock up the midfield, a pacey wide man for competition and a Vokes replacement. I just wish we'd have done that. I don't understand why the club didn't back the manager... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 5, 2020 8:48:47 GMT
He should bury that chance. It's the same every game, he misses an absolute sitter. And yes it's good he's getting them but he consistently misses them. I still can't believe he's starting. Yes he should bury that chance but we saw with Vokes at Villa park, he is capable of missing those types of chances too. Gregory at Preston was the typical benchmark - scored one chance but missed two sitters. Like I said, he's a one in three striker. The overall point though is that we aren't creating enough. Campbell is our best finisher IMO and he would struggle to score in this team. I can't remember the last time we created a real chance for him, when he's played for us this season. We just need to bin this formation off and get Powell closer to the main striker and have Campbell coming in off the wings. It worked a treat last season and really didn't need changing - just enhancing All we needed to do over the summer was buy a proper left back, a natural left back, a defensive midfielder to lock up the midfield, a pacey wide man for competition and a Vokes replacement. I just wish we'd have done that. I don't understand why the club didn't back the manager... Bar the Vokes replacement we signed all of them? He's just not using them right? |
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 5, 2020 9:07:01 GMT
Don't start with Gregory.
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