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Post by wilcopotter on Aug 12, 2020 18:15:55 GMT
Seriously, what is the point of this post? You've said yourself (in your reply to Werrers) that you DON'T expect a reply from anyone at the club on this board. So, if you don't expect a reply from the club on this board, why ask the question on this board? Why not make your points in a personal letter to Tony Scholes with a copy to Peter Coates - and Denise Coates if you really want to get your point over to the big cheese at bet365. Also - why write the diatribe at all? Looking at what you have written, I can't see anything in it which hasn't already been said many times by some other fans. I'm not saying I agree with your points - but I've read them before and so they are hardly new to me or to the club owners and staff, are they? What do you expect the club to do if they accept your points - tear up the new contracts offered to some players - and thus expose themselves to legal action which they would almost certainly lose? Or do you think those players who didn't get improved contracts should now get them to cheer them up? You've had a go at Werrers and impugned his intelligence in your post higher up the thread. I've met him - he's an intelligent bloke - trust me. 'Werrers' your mate is self appointed wise man who likes to use the term 'kangaroo court' to belittle and question others intelligence, anybody who dares to question and criticise, all well scfc free fall down the football leagues, so im sure he won't mind others saying the same to him. People have a right to question & doubt, because failure has been the theme for over 5 years now and it's a joke, between them they can't even provide a balanced functional team, by love, luck or 'plenty' of money. The amount of bad signings made is not bad luck, its rank bad management, rank bad set-up and a rank bad business procedure from the top down. I can count on 1 hand the amount of good signings we have made in 5 years and its no laughing matter because we have made dozens. The structure and how the club goes about business is evidently very wrong. I'd like criticism to be public because an email will achieve nothing, if even read Are you Bayern in disguise😁
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Post by peterpan1 on Aug 12, 2020 18:47:04 GMT
Superjonscape has made a number of valid points and one can feel his frustration. However, we have to accept that Tony Scholes lives in an Ivory Tower that is reinforced with Titanium and encrusted with Diamonds..... He truly is untouchable.
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 12, 2020 18:51:05 GMT
Superjonscape has made a number of valid points and one can feel his frustration. However, we have to accept that Tony Scholes lives in an Ivory Tower that is reinforced with Titanium and encrusted with Diamonds..... He truly is untouchable. Not really...but he does have a great avatar
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Post by richie22 on Aug 12, 2020 19:19:31 GMT
Dear mr.scholes Will you be sharing the images you have of Denise with the royal dildo, she looks abit odd but I would. Ya know, times are hard. Ps. Thanks for the free buzzes of an away day
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Post by oldschool on Aug 12, 2020 19:23:44 GMT
What a fucking card 🤦🏽♂️
Also, the cretin said about reserve football! That went out with the pissing dinosaurs 🤣 lad needs to get his meds.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 12, 2020 19:26:58 GMT
I have registered on this forum to vent my spleen for the most part of the total capitulation of scfc in the last 5 and 6 years, its at a point now where serious questions need to be answered by Tony Scholes or somebody at the club. And they really do need to be answered.... Tony Scholes Alledgedly - Upon relegation we offered new contracts to certain squad members to keep them on Premiership wages well other members of the team had their wages reduced? Is this true Tony Scholes and what did you expect that to achieve with regards to team spirit, morale and motivation? You would have to be stupid to believe it wouldn't have a negative effect in the dressing room and on the pitch. Alledgedly - Rumours of players contracts not being supplemented with a Win bonus, is this true? How long has that been the case, 6 years or more by any chance? I'm led to believe most clubs offer win bonus and other bonus incentives. Furthermore, add that to the first point about player contract relegation wage issues. Is this true Tony Scholes and what did you expect that to achieve with regards to team spirit, morale and motivation? Also, my own belief is that our managers are being told that certain players have to play regardless of form because they are a financial asset to the club. Is this true Tony Scholes and what did you expect that to achieve with regards to team spirit, morale and motivation? New start with O'Neill great, but if things above his control don't change, neither will we What was your username before you created the new one to post this? EDIT - I posted the comment above having read only your initial post. I've now viewed the thread as it's progressed. Come on...who were you before. Your approach feels familiar. No doubt "Red Card Demonstration" should ensue once fans allowed back Dave. Bet he’s still got them stashed somewhere in his loft gathering dust.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 12, 2020 19:46:00 GMT
What was your username before you created the new one to post this? EDIT - I posted the comment above having read only your initial post. I've now viewed the thread as it's progressed. Come on...who were you before. Your approach feels familiar. No doubt "Red Card Demonstration" should ensue once fans allowed back Dave. Bet he’s still got them stashed somewhere in his loft gathering dust. Could it really be? Really?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 20:05:42 GMT
Superjonscape has made a number of valid points and one can feel his frustration. However, we have to accept that Tony Scholes lives in an Ivory Tower that is reinforced with Titanium and encrusted with Diamonds..... He truly is untouchable. Yes but based on nothing more than rumours. agree re The Avatar
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Aug 12, 2020 21:10:48 GMT
No doubt "Red Card Demonstration" should ensue once fans allowed back Dave. Bet he’s still got them stashed somewhere in his loft gathering dust. Could it really be? Really? No..... surely not!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 21:54:30 GMT
I have no idea how TS is in a job , if some daft manager wants to sign a player , banned from playing by the FA for failing an FA drugs test , for 12 million quid .It is the job of the CEO , to say no .
And if some daft manager wants to sign a reserve "squad" player from spurs , with almost no first team experience , who only plays when there are a catalogue of injuries for 18 million quid ( yes 18 million quid not 500,000). It is the job of the CEO to say no .
It's not his job to question every transfer , and yes he has to back the manager in general .
But nevertheless he has to veto bonkers lunatic ideas like signing druggies banned from playing for 12 million quid, or reserve team "squad" players for 18 million.
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 13, 2020 7:42:31 GMT
What a fucking card 🤦🏽♂️ Also, the cretin said about reserve football! That went out with the pissing dinosaurs 🤣 lad needs to get his meds. And that is all that is wrong with modern football in my opinion, if you're on a big contract you become untouchable in this league and they know it, a proper reserve form based system is exactly what is need to wake these underperformers up, in the meantime you give the bursiks and the n'goys a chance to shine and to stake a place. So what if you have wages sitting in the reserves, they are no more use in the first team and a bit of embarrassment might wake them up 'if they have anything about them. Let's be honest, bursik and N'goy could not have done any worse than butland and ince last season. I happened to bump into a certain player not too long back, I give him both barrels and told him in no uncertain terms to let them know they were an embarrassment, how shit they are and that my last school team could beat them, quite comfortably. He happened to be one of the more popular players that shines in this shower of shite. He was actually very polite considering I wasn't and he give me the "who me?" Expession. I did end up saying to him I appreciate "his" efforts and enjoy watchig him play, he knows he is in with a shower and that some shouldn't be playing because he thanked me for my good words about "his" efforts and told me to have a good day. He played a match winning performance in his next game, i'd love to go into the dressing room to tell these serial under performers just what a joke they are
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 7:58:05 GMT
What a fucking card 🤦🏽♂️ Also, the cretin said about reserve football! That went out with the pissing dinosaurs 🤣 lad needs to get his meds. And that is all that is wrong with modern football in my opinion, if you're on a big contract you become untouchable in this league and they know it, a proper reserve form based system is exactly what is need to wake these underperformers up, in the meantime you give the bursiks and the n'goys a chance to shine and to stake a place. So what if you have wages sitting in the reserves, they are no more use in the first team and a bit of embarrassment might wake them up 'if they have anything about them. Let's be honest, bursik and N'goy could not have done any worse than butland and ince last season. I happened to bump into a certain player not too long back, I give him both barrels and told him in no uncertain terms to let them know how shit they are and that my school team could beat them. He happened to be one of the more popular players that shines in this shower of shite. He was actually very polite considering I wasn't and he give me the "who me?" Expession. I did end up saying to him I appreciate "his" efforts and enjoy watchig him play, he knows he is in with a shower and that some shouldn't be playing because he thanked me for my good words about "his" efforts and told me to have a good day. He played a match winning performance in his next game, i'd love to go into the dressing room to tell these serial under performers just what a joke they are It doesn't really come through on 2 mins on you tube but on the itv hub at the moment is the 1977 FA cup semi final Leeds v man utd The pace of the game and the graft and endeavour of the players is phenomenal. Man utd had Jimmy greenhoff sammy McIlroy and Lou macari in that team but it was the graft and no nonsense tackling of Stevie coppell and Gordon hill that surprised me . All 22 players flew into every tackle and ran their hearts out . I am not sure anyone in this Stoke team could have cut it in that match . A great watch if you are bored and have an hour to pass
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 13, 2020 8:28:49 GMT
And that is all that is wrong with modern football in my opinion, if you're on a big contract you become untouchable in this league and they know it, a proper reserve form based system is exactly what is need to wake these underperformers up, in the meantime you give the bursiks and the n'goys a chance to shine and to stake a place. So what if you have wages sitting in the reserves, they are no more use in the first team and a bit of embarrassment might wake them up 'if they have anything about them. Let's be honest, bursik and N'goy could not have done any worse than butland and ince last season. I happened to bump into a certain player not too long back, I give him both barrels and told him in no uncertain terms to let them know how shit they are and that my school team could beat them. He happened to be one of the more popular players that shines in this shower of shite. He was actually very polite considering I wasn't and he give me the "who me?" Expession. I did end up saying to him I appreciate "his" efforts and enjoy watchig him play, he knows he is in with a shower and that some shouldn't be playing because he thanked me for my good words about "his" efforts and told me to have a good day. He played a match winning performance in his next game, i'd love to go into the dressing room to tell these serial under performers just what a joke they are It doesn't really come through on 2 mins on you tube but on the itv hub at the moment is the 1977 FA cup semi final Leeds v man utd The pace of the game and the graft and endeavour of the players is phenomenal. Man utd had Jimmy greenhoff sammy McIlroy and Lou macari in that team but it was the graft and no nonsense tackling of Stevie coppell and Gordon hill that surprised me . All 22 players flew into every tackle and ran their hearts out . I am not sure anyone in this Stoke team could have cut it in that match . A great watch if you are bored and have an hour to pass nice one I'll watch that this evening
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Post by questionable on Aug 13, 2020 8:44:37 GMT
Dear mr.scholes Will you be sharing the images you have of Denise with the royal dildo, she looks abit odd but I would. Ya know, times are hard. Ps. Thanks for the free buzzes of an away day Christ not a chance “she’s bosted”, remember that saying from my youth, it’s a good job she’s got money as she was bottom of the list when looks were handed out
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Post by richie22 on Aug 13, 2020 12:24:52 GMT
Dear mr.scholes Will you be sharing the images you have of Denise with the royal dildo, she looks abit odd but I would. Ya know, times are hard. Ps. Thanks for the free buzzes of an away day Christ not a chance “she’s bosted”, remember that saying from my youth, it’s a good job she’s got money as she was bottom of the list when looks were handed out Done worse, but maybe that’s not a good boast
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 12:38:05 GMT
It doesn't really come through on 2 mins on you tube but on the itv hub at the moment is the 1977 FA cup semi final Leeds v man utd The pace of the game and the graft and endeavour of the players is phenomenal. Man utd had Jimmy greenhoff sammy McIlroy and Lou macari in that team but it was the graft and no nonsense tackling of Stevie coppell and Gordon hill that surprised me . All 22 players flew into every tackle and ran their hearts out . I am not sure anyone in this Stoke team could have cut it in that match . A great watch if you are bored and have an hour to pass nice one I'll watch that this evening It's on the big match revisited , itv hub , Jimmy greenhoff sammy McIlroy and Lou macari are as good as their reputation and the graft skill and running power of the players is amazing
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Post by oldschool on Aug 14, 2020 14:04:23 GMT
What a fucking card 🤦🏽♂️ Also, the cretin said about reserve football! That went out with the pissing dinosaurs 🤣 lad needs to get his meds. And that is all that is wrong with modern football in my opinion, if you're on a big contract you become untouchable in this league and they know it, a proper reserve form based system is exactly what is need to wake these underperformers up, in the meantime you give the bursiks and the n'goys a chance to shine and to stake a place. So what if you have wages sitting in the reserves, they are no more use in the first team and a bit of embarrassment might wake them up 'if they have anything about them. Let's be honest, bursik and N'goy could not have done any worse than butland and ince last season. I happened to bump into a certain player not too long back, I give him both barrels and told him in no uncertain terms to let them know they were an embarrassment, how shit they are and that my last school team could beat them, quite comfortably. He happened to be one of the more popular players that shines in this shower of shite. He was actually very polite considering I wasn't and he give me the "who me?" Expession. I did end up saying to him I appreciate "his" efforts and enjoy watchig him play, he knows he is in with a shower and that some shouldn't be playing because he thanked me for my good words about "his" efforts and told me to have a good day. He played a match winning performance in his next game, i'd love to go into the dressing room to tell these serial under performers just what a joke they are You don’t half spout some shite youth! You met a certain player and gave him both barrels. Behave. You’re a keyboard warrior! Keep up the good trolling work though!
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 14, 2020 15:07:46 GMT
And that is all that is wrong with modern football in my opinion, if you're on a big contract you become untouchable in this league and they know it, a proper reserve form based system is exactly what is need to wake these underperformers up, in the meantime you give the bursiks and the n'goys a chance to shine and to stake a place. So what if you have wages sitting in the reserves, they are no more use in the first team and a bit of embarrassment might wake them up 'if they have anything about them. Let's be honest, bursik and N'goy could not have done any worse than butland and ince last season. I happened to bump into a certain player not too long back, I give him both barrels and told him in no uncertain terms to let them know they were an embarrassment, how shit they are and that my last school team could beat them, quite comfortably. He happened to be one of the more popular players that shines in this shower of shite. He was actually very polite considering I wasn't and he give me the "who me?" Expession. I did end up saying to him I appreciate "his" efforts and enjoy watchig him play, he knows he is in with a shower and that some shouldn't be playing because he thanked me for my good words about "his" efforts and told me to have a good day. He played a match winning performance in his next game, i'd love to go into the dressing room to tell these serial under performers just what a joke they are You don’t half spout some shite youth! You met a certain player and gave him both barrels. Behave. You’re a keyboard warrior! Keep up the good trolling work though! If you say so, just because you wouldnt by any chance?
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 14, 2020 19:19:12 GMT
Old peter states we still have players on premier league contracts , didn’t we have nothing written in to take a wage cut if relegated
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Post by AlliG on Aug 14, 2020 19:38:28 GMT
Old peter states we still have players on premier league contracts , didn’t we have nothing written in to take a wage cut if relegated Yes we did, but even if a player on say £50k a week took a 50% pay cut, the resultant wage would still be more "Premier League" than "Championship"
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 14, 2020 19:45:28 GMT
Old peter states we still have players on premier league contracts , didn’t we have nothing written in to take a wage cut if relegated Yes we did, but even if a player on say £50k a week took a 50% pay cut, the resultant wage would still be more "Premier League" than "Championship" So we fucked then
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Post by AlliG on Aug 14, 2020 19:49:30 GMT
Yes we did, but even if a player on say £50k a week took a 50% pay cut, the resultant wage would still be more "Premier League" than "Championship" So we fucked then Not really. The reduced contracts were probably fine for the first 2 years of parachute payments. How many players would sign a contract that reduced their salary from £50k to £5k a week on relegation? Would you risk a 90% wage reduction?
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 14, 2020 20:12:01 GMT
Not really. The reduced contracts were probably fine for the first 2 years of parachute payments. How many players would sign a contract that reduced their salary from £50k to £5k a week on relegation? Would you risk a 90% wage reduction? 👍
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Post by boothenender on Aug 15, 2020 0:58:57 GMT
Dear Tony Scholes How much dirt have you dug up on the Coates family? Yours One inquisitive supporter Tony Scholes to Mr Coates Snr. Peter send that snivelling little bastard Son of yours up to my Office. My bin full of fans complaint letters needs emptying NOW. If not I will release my photo of you hanging out of the bottom of Mrs Shahanigan to Mrs Coates. Scholes must have something very serious to allow him to survive after years of total fucking chaos at Stoke City.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 9:32:50 GMT
Not the brightest scholesy
What about that time, PC bought a new Bentley for Denise's birthday ?
Pc ' nice car , but it turned up without the spoiler on the boot ,I ordered '
Scholesy ' no worries , I can do that '
Pc ' cheers '
Pc gets back from lunch to find scholesy has sprayed on the back of Denise's new Bentley ...' Bruce Willis is a ghost in the sixth sense'
Scholesy ' I can't see what all the fuss is about '
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