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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jul 16, 2020 14:44:22 GMT
this transfer window, there's the obvious ones like Badou, Etebo, Woods, Afobe, Wimmer. Then there's others less obvious like Edwards, BMI, Lyndsay, Butland, Tymon, Collins, Ince, maybe even Vokes? What if we get a good offer for Allen? I'm pretty sure there will be a few surprise exits. Gouranga.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2020 14:49:06 GMT
He clearly wants to have a look at Afobe imo. I think he'll stay.
Why would we look to get rid of Collins unless it's for a lot of money?
Butland, Ward, Edwards, Cousins, Ince and then Etebo, Badou and Wimmer.
The rest depends on offer in doesn't it really.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 16, 2020 14:55:13 GMT
I would imagine that of our current squad anyone and everyone is available for a reasonable offer. There is no one player who can be considered as being a vital part of our jigsaw, oe anyone that we might want to build a team around, so on that basis they are all replaceable. Also this is not really Michael O Neill's team, and even his additions like Thompson have so far been unable to make an impact. So everything is on the table, and the focus of activity will be on unloading as many players as possible, and perhaps making a start on putting together a competitive hard working squad that can stabilise our position. And after that we can perhaps start making progress.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 16, 2020 15:07:11 GMT
Everyone
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 16, 2020 15:10:11 GMT
I would imagine that of our current squad anyone and everyone is available for a reasonable offer. There is no one player who can be considered as being a vital part of our jigsaw, oe anyone that we might want to build a team around, so on that basis they are all replaceable. Also this is not really Michael O Neill's team, and even his additions like Thompson have so far been unable to make an impact. So everything is on the table, and the focus of activity will be on unloading as many players as possible, and perhaps making a start on putting together a competitive hard working squad that can stabilise our position. And after that we can perhaps start making progress.
And he loves Joe of course.
Campbell & Collins for their prosepctive sell on value and Clucas.
That's it surely, the rest, as said above, would go, if the price is right.
And therein lies the problem - when was the last time we got the 'right price' for anyone?
So we'll be stuck with the bally lot of them probably. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 16, 2020 15:25:30 GMT
He clearly wants to have a look at Afobe imo. I think he'll stay. Why would we look to get rid of Collins unless it's for a lot of money? Butland, Ward, Edwards, Cousins, Ince and then Etebo, Badou and Wimmer. The rest depends on offer in doesn't it really. If someone came up with an offer of £8-10M for Collins I'd take it! I'm not so sure he'll be the next big thing. I'd install a percentage for further sales of him of course!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 15:48:56 GMT
It will totally depend on what league we're in next year.
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Post by femark on Jul 16, 2020 15:48:59 GMT
I imagine we'll be open to offloading any apart from his new signings, the promising young players and maybe Clucas, Powell, McClean, Allen.
Can't imagine we'll be able to offload many at all due to wages / lack of fee.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 16, 2020 15:50:31 GMT
I think there might be a young right back who, if rumours are correct, might have shit the bed for this club.
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Post by citynickscfc on Jul 16, 2020 15:54:31 GMT
I think there might be a young right back who, if rumours are correct, might have shit the bed for this club. Erm what??? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2020 15:58:11 GMT
He clearly wants to have a look at Afobe imo. I think he'll stay. Why would we look to get rid of Collins unless it's for a lot of money? Butland, Ward, Edwards, Cousins, Ince and then Etebo, Badou and Wimmer. The rest depends on offer in doesn't it really. If someone came up with an offer of £8-10M for Collins I'd take it! I'm not so sure he'll be the next big thing. I'd install a percentage for further sales of him of course! I can see why the club would take that tbh. I think eventually it’ll be low but it’s decent enough money. He’s the best CB we have though. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 16, 2020 16:00:02 GMT
If someone came up with an offer of £8-10M for Collins I'd take it! I'm not so sure he'll be the next big thing. I'd install a percentage for further sales of him of course! I can see why the club would take that tbh. I think eventually it’ll be low but it’s decent enough money. He’s the best CB we have though. How can you claim that!? Certainly not from the games he has played for the first team so far!  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2020 16:02:44 GMT
I can see why the club would take that tbh. I think eventually it’ll be low but it’s decent enough money. He’s the best CB we have though. How can you claim that!? Certainly not from the games he has played for the first team so far! Because he is. Batth should be a sub. Shawcross is never fit. Lindsay is a disaster area. And my dead Gran is better than Chester. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 16, 2020 16:03:41 GMT
How can you claim that!? Certainly not from the games he has played for the first team so far! Because he is. Batth should be a sub. Shawcross is never fit. Lindsay is a disaster area. And my dead Gran is better than Chester. Opinions are not facts, Bayern! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2020 16:08:18 GMT
Because he is. Batth should be a sub. Shawcross is never fit. Lindsay is a disaster area. And my dead Gran is better than Chester. Opinions are not facts, Bayern! The fact is, there’s only 1 centre back we own that good PL clubs will be interested in. That’s Collins. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 16, 2020 16:32:43 GMT
Opinions are not facts, Bayern! The fact is, there’s only 1 centre back we own that good PL clubs will be interested in. That’s Collins. It still doesn't prove if he will have a career at top level football. A lot of players have showed promise in the past before they have disappeared into the unknown. Time will tell, but he hasn't showed anything yet to prove he is our best central defender. I guess O'Neill thinks the same as he isn't picked in our first 11 regularly. Hopefully he will become as good as many people hope, but as said there is a long way to go yet.  |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 16, 2020 16:45:32 GMT
Most of them.
Build a team around Campbell, Powell, Allen & Collins.
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Post by Rose City Potter on Jul 16, 2020 16:58:15 GMT
Most of them. Build a team around Campbell, Powell, Allen & Collins. This mostly. I would also keep Ryan, Jimmy, Davies, Souttar, Sorensen and Verlinden. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 16, 2020 17:10:51 GMT
Most of them. Build a team around Campbell, Powell, Allen & Collins. This mostly. I would also keep Ryan, Jimmy, Davies, Souttar, Sorensen and Verlinden. To me it seems more and more likely Ryan's days as an important player for us are numbered. I'd keep him at the club though, but in another role than as a player. His body doesn't seem able to take the physical strain any longer. I wish I was wrong about it, but it seems more and more likely though. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2020 17:33:06 GMT
The fact is, there’s only 1 centre back we own that good PL clubs will be interested in. That’s Collins. It still doesn't prove if he will have a career at top level football. A lot of players have showed promise in the past before they have disappeared into the unknown. Time will tell, but he hasn't showed anything yet to prove he is our best central defender. I guess O'Neill thinks the same as he isn't picked in our first 11 regularly. Hopefully he will become as good as many people hope, but as said there is a long way to go yet. He isn’t and the defence have looked awful. It’s not really something to shout home about  |
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2020 18:32:19 GMT
I think there might be a young right back who, if rumours are correct, might have shit the bed for this club. Erm what??? Edwards Looked promising last season under Jones Gets new contract If rumours are correct he's been on the piss since then |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 16, 2020 18:35:43 GMT
The only one who you definitely wouldn't want to go, Powell, is the only one likely to attract any serious interest or money.
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Post by citynickscfc on Jul 16, 2020 18:36:15 GMT
Edwards Looked promising last season under Jones Gets new contract If rumours are correct he's been on the piss since then Could have a drink problem, we just don't know. New contracts at stoke are nothing to go by, perhaps that will change with MON, at least we hope so. I'd rather we forget about any player not worthy of a first 11 place to be honest. I'm sure a clean and determined Edwards has enough to play professional football somewhere, if not at stoke. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 18:53:53 GMT
He clearly wants to have a look at Afobe imo. I think he'll stay. Why would we look to get rid of Collins unless it's for a lot of money? Butland, Ward, Edwards, Cousins, Ince and then Etebo, Badou and Wimmer. The rest depends on offer in doesn't it really. If someone came up with an offer of £8-10M for Collins I'd take it! I'm not so sure he'll be the next big thing. I'd install a percentage for further sales of him of course! No one will pay £10M for a player who gets hauled off consistently every time he plays... Which might still work to our advantage. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 16, 2020 19:00:54 GMT
If someone came up with an offer of £8-10M for Collins I'd take it! I'm not so sure he'll be the next big thing. I'd install a percentage for further sales of him of course! No one will pay £10M for a player who gets hauled off consistently every time he plays... Which might still work to our advantage. I think you're right here, but in football a lot of strange things can happen! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 19:58:32 GMT
No one will pay £10M for a player who gets hauled off consistently every time he plays... Which might still work to our advantage. I think you're right here, but in football a lot of strange things can happen! I think when he burst open the scene at still 17, he had much going for him. But his stature has fallen alongside that of the club hand in hand. It's difficult to recall a game where he made a difference. If we get off to a good start next season and if O'Neill starts to trust him, he's certainly young enough to still improve. But it seems O'Neill remains unimpressed and that's a problem. |
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 16, 2020 20:22:53 GMT
Covid, will make the transfer window different
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 16, 2020 20:38:18 GMT
this transfer window, there's the obvious ones like Badou, Etebo, Woods, Afobe, Wimmer. Then there's others less obvious like Edwards, BMI, Lyndsay, Butland, Tymon, Collins, Ince, maybe even Vokes? What if we get a good offer for Allen? I'm pretty sure there will be a few surprise exits. Gouranga. I'm pretty sure that if we got offers for any of our players, with the possible exception of Clucas, Campbell, Allen and Powell, the manager would happily let them go. |
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 16, 2020 20:43:05 GMT
How can you claim that!? Certainly not from the games he has played for the first team so far! Because he is. Batth should be a sub. . I read that as Batth should be tub 🛀 |
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 16, 2020 20:46:16 GMT
Yes there’s the obvious. NDiaye, Etebo, Wimmer, Woods, Bauer. But I think we will listen to any offers for the entire back 4 excluding Collins
I think Butland will go and wouldn’t be surprised to see Allen also sold. Ince must be in the frame to be sold along with Gregory and Vokes
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