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Post by PotterLog on May 6, 2020 17:51:44 GMT
If you've ever fallen into the trap of wondering if Beckham was a bit overrated or just an early passenger on the English hype train, this is worth 10 minutes of your life.
Most players would be remembered fondly for making one pass like these in their whole career, and there are fifty of them here. Some of them are properly breathtaking.. I honestly don't think there's ever been anyone better with long passing, crossing and dead balls.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 18:02:00 GMT
Best crosser and passer of a ball have ever seen. Saw him 3 times at Real and best player on show by a mile.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 18:05:16 GMT
Each one was hit and hope 😉😂
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Post by scfc75 on May 6, 2020 18:09:06 GMT
That daisy cutter he hits on around 2 minutes is utter dirt.
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Post by xchpotter on May 6, 2020 18:10:58 GMT
Top player. I think his pop star image and that stupid bint of a wife detracted from just how good he was. The only thing he lacked was lightning pace....if he had had that I think he would have been talked of in the same class as Messi and Ronaldo. He was also one of the few players who genuinely seemed to give a fuck for England. That game v Greece was when I certainly changed my attitude to him. I think he’s a half decent chap as well with what he does for others.
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Post by PotterLog on May 6, 2020 18:12:04 GMT
Best crosser and passer of a ball have ever seen. Saw him 3 times at Real and best player on show by a mile. One thing that struck me watching that comp was how central, and deep, he often was when picking up the ball. And the Madrid forwards would just be on their way immediately... |
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2020 18:17:20 GMT
Quality delivery over and over again.
Good eye for goal and good work rate.
Very good player.
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Post by RAF on May 6, 2020 18:37:57 GMT
Ruud Gullit is the closest I've seen to being anywhere near Beckhams crossing and passing.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 18:40:42 GMT
Top player. I think his pop star image and that stupid bint of a wife detracted from just how good he was. The only thing he lacked was lightning pace....if he had had that I think he would have been talked of in the same class as Messi and Ronaldo. He was also one of the few players who genuinely seemed to give a fuck for England. That game v Greece was when I certainly changed my attitude to him. I think he’s a half decent chap as well with what he does for others. That was the media who couldn't leave them alone. They love to destroy the few players with talent that England produces although some like Gascoigne did it themselves. Gascoigne did bugger all at club level though, Beckham won it all |
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Post by leicspotter on May 6, 2020 18:46:40 GMT
Surely it only counts if a goal is scored?  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2020 18:48:10 GMT
I always wanted him to be played at right back.
I saw an article the other day suggesting this too and it made me feel ok to say it out loud again.
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Post by tnbiscuitswithtone on May 6, 2020 18:50:45 GMT
He wonna that good.
Never played for the mighty Potters
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 6, 2020 18:56:21 GMT
Beckham's long balls were like Delap's throws. They're weren't just lobbed in the air floating their way up field somewhere that anyone could do, they were hit hard & fast with that low arc that caught defender after defender completely off-guard.
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Post by PotterLog on May 6, 2020 18:59:30 GMT
Ruud Gullit is the closest I've seen to being anywhere near Beckhams crossing and passing. H Marcelo at Madrid is capable of some filthy pinged long balls. Nothing like the consistency of Beckham though, the reliability of his delivery made it integral to the way the whole team played. |
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2020 19:04:44 GMT
I always wanted him to be played at right back. I saw an article the other day suggesting this too and it made me feel ok to say it out loud again. Wing back I think would have really suited him Right back in a back four, not so sure. That requires an understanding positionally which is different to anywhere else. See Bauer as a good example of someone who doesn't get it. However Beckham was a smart footballer with great focus, he'd probably have got their eventually. For someone with little pace, no real 'trick' and a bit weedy physically he turned out all right. Bit like Keegan in that he got far more out than seemed possible. |
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Post by zerps on May 6, 2020 19:07:42 GMT
If you've ever fallen into the trap of wondering if Beckham was a bit overrated or just an early passenger on the English hype train, this is worth 10 minutes of your life. Most players would be remembered fondly for making one pass like these in their whole career, and there are fifty of them here. Some of them are properly breathtaking.. I honestly don't think there's ever been anyone better with long passing, crossing and dead balls. He was genuinely world class and is a genuinely decent bloke. The British press just made him stronger. |
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Post by scfc75 on May 6, 2020 19:13:47 GMT
He wonna that good. Never played for the mighty Potters Lists it as his big career regret. |
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Post by logdog on May 6, 2020 20:01:08 GMT
I think he was underrated as more often than not he played in that right wing/midfield position where the best players have always had pace to burn, a trick or two and can beat a man. That was never his game, as he used to affect matches by drifting infield and using his sublime passing skills - putting balls & crosses in almost instantly at times. Cracking player & always seems quite humble. As someone else said above, the only player I’ve seen live who could hit a better long range pass was Gullit at Chelsea.
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2020 20:32:58 GMT
I think he was underrated as more often than not he played in that right wing/midfield position where the best players have always had pace to burn, a trick or two and can beat a man. That was never his game, as he used to affect matches by drifting infield and using his sublime passing skills - putting balls & crosses in almost instantly at times. Cracking player & always seems quite humble. As someone else said above, the only player I’ve seen live who could hit a better long range pass was Gullit at Chelsea. Hoddle was even better |
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Post by logdog on May 6, 2020 20:38:32 GMT
I think he was underrated as more often than not he played in that right wing/midfield position where the best players have always had pace to burn, a trick or two and can beat a man. That was never his game, as he used to affect matches by drifting infield and using his sublime passing skills - putting balls & crosses in almost instantly at times. Cracking player & always seems quite humble. As someone else said above, the only player I’ve seen live who could hit a better long range pass was Gullit at Chelsea. Hoddle was even better Can believe that, mate. Due to being just a whipper snapper, missed out on seeing him live.😉 Looked a class act though. Scholes wasn’t far behind either... |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 6, 2020 20:43:43 GMT
I always respected him. He's badly let down by his useless wife who insulted every one of us by trying to pilfer from the taxpayer funded furlough scheme. He should dump her
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 20:52:48 GMT
Zidane’s control, wow.
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Post by Picasso on May 6, 2020 21:38:16 GMT
Top player. I think his pop star image and that stupid bint of a wife detracted from just how good he was. The only thing he lacked was lightning pace....if he had had that I think he would have been talked of in the same class as Messi and Ronaldo. He was also one of the few players who genuinely seemed to give a fuck for England. That game v Greece was when I certainly changed my attitude to him. I think he’s a half decent chap as well with what he does for others. I thought he was overrated, but, I was at Old Trafford for that game against Greece and, the same as you, it changed my view of him. He was outstanding and led by example. I was right in line with the free kick he scored near the end (at the other end of the ground, mind), what a mental and what a way to cap off a great performance. |
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Post by JoeinOz on May 6, 2020 22:30:09 GMT
I think he was underrated as more often than not he played in that right wing/midfield position where the best players have always had pace to burn, a trick or two and can beat a man. That was never his game, as he used to affect matches by drifting infield and using his sublime passing skills - putting balls & crosses in almost instantly at times. Cracking player & always seems quite humble. As someone else said above, the only player I’ve seen live who could hit a better long range pass was Gullit at Chelsea. Hoddle was even better Hoddle did beautifully crafted long passes phased cunningly into channels. But when Watford did the same it was a brainless long ball. |
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2020 22:34:39 GMT
Hoddle did beautifully crafted long passes phased cunningly into channels. But when Watford did the same it was a brainless long ball. It wasn't the same though was it? |
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Post by PotterLog on May 6, 2020 23:08:50 GMT
I think he was underrated as more often than not he played in that right wing/midfield position where the best players have always had pace to burn, a trick or two and can beat a man. That was never his game, as he used to affect matches by drifting infield and using his sublime passing skills - putting balls & crosses in almost instantly at times. Cracking player & always seems quite humble. As someone else said above, the only player I’ve seen live who could hit a better long range pass was Gullit at Chelsea. Hoddle was even better Loved Hoddle as well. Rolls Royce of a player, to employ an overused but appropriate cliche. |
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Post by hyaduck on May 7, 2020 0:32:24 GMT
Hoddle did beautifully crafted long passes phased cunningly into channels. But when Watford did the same it was a brainless long ball. Two of the most gifted British footballers of the last thirty years. Watford didn't really have players with the quality of Beckham and Hoddle. |
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Post by PotterLog on May 7, 2020 1:12:45 GMT
Hoddle did beautifully crafted long passes phased cunningly into channels. But when Watford did the same it was a brainless long ball. Two of the most gifted British footballers of the last thirty years. Watford didn't really have players with the quality of Beckham and Hoddle. Apart from when Johnny Eustace played for them |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 5:55:38 GMT
I can remember someone on here arguing a while back that Beckham had a poor game for England in that qualifier against Greece at Old Trafford. Saying that the free kick winner made it look like he'd played well  |
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Post by upthefud on May 7, 2020 6:48:11 GMT
Always thought he was pretty over-rated. Incredible game vs Greece aside, he never really showed up for England when it really mattered.
When his delivery was good it was unstoppable, but look how many times it fails to clear the first man as well. Not blessed with blistering pace.
I'd say he was decent. Not a great
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