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Post by redstriper on Apr 15, 2020 10:36:42 GMT
The three I spout most often when asked about the club, I like to play on the fact that we were the world's pioneering professional team renowned for being a bit shit  ...but i least we stayed true to our roots Founder members in 1888 and first team to finish bottom of any football league in the world. First team in the world to be (in effect) relegated - in 1890 When we were promoted in 1962-63 we had ten players who were born locally (never found anything to prove whether this is actually true) oh, and the Autoglass trophy - we've won it two times |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 15, 2020 10:39:48 GMT
Karl Marx wrote Das Kapital in the back of the Butler St Stand.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 15, 2020 10:42:13 GMT
I love the stuff that I've read on here and take as gospel but can't find anywhere else. The FA's first office was in Stoke somewhere? Extra time was created because of a game involving us? The first game under floodlights? I may have made them up or someone on here has  |
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Post by StaffordPotter on Apr 15, 2020 10:42:43 GMT
The creation of Hairy Potter.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 15, 2020 10:50:16 GMT
I love the stuff that I've read on here and take as gospel but can't find anywhere else. The FA's first office was in Stoke somewhere? Extra time was created because of a game involving us? The first game under floodlights? I may have made them up or someone on here has Don’t forget Lee Trundle buying a house in Trentham 😎 |
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 15, 2020 11:09:42 GMT
Captain Smith of the Titanic from Hanley.
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Post by AlliG on Apr 15, 2020 11:13:45 GMT
I love the stuff that I've read on here and take as gospel but can't find anywhere else. The FA's first office was in Stoke somewhere? Extra time was created because of a game involving us? The first game under floodlights? I may have made them up or someone on here has It was allowing "extra time" to take a penalty that came about because of Stoke. Apparently we were awarded a penalty in the last minute of a game. The defender booted the ball out of the ground and by the time the ball was recovered the referee had blown for full time. My sixpenneth The penalty itself was introduced after a cup tie against Notts County where a County defender punched the ball off the line in the last minute. In those days a free kick was awarded where the offence took place. Every Notts County player lined up about a foot from the ball and the shot was blocked. The referee involved became a legislator and introduced the penalty. When the League originally formed there was no relegation as we currently understand it. Originally it was an election process, so we were not re-elected to the League at the end of the 1889/90 season. This method was replaced by a "test match" system (similar to the modern play offs) where the bottom 3 teams in Division 1 played the top 3 teams from Division 2 with the top 3 teams playing in Division 1. This system was abolished after Stoke and Burnley played out a "dodgy" 0-0 draw in 1897/98 where neither side made any attempt to score that meant that Stoke survived and Burnley were promoted. After that "proper" promotion and relegation were introduced. |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Apr 15, 2020 11:30:47 GMT
Captain Smith of the Titanic from Hanley. He went to Hanley High School and probably learned navigation on the Trent and Mersey canal. |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 15, 2020 11:31:49 GMT
Stoke had a summer tour arranged to play four games in Poland in the summer of 1939 😳😳
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 15, 2020 11:39:14 GMT
We were the first professional club to publicly announce that every ill that befalls the world is due to Dave Kitson...and also the first to pioneer the acronym "PHW"
After 119 years at the Vic, we were the first team to play matches at a discount supermarket, after being sold to Iceland.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 15, 2020 11:40:46 GMT
Captain Smith of the Titanic from Hanley. He went to Hanley High School and probably learned navigation on the Trent and Mersey canal.
Apparently he was completely disorientated by the lack of trolleys, nappies and used johnnies in the North Atlantic and that totally threw him and caused the disaster.
Tragic really
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Post by generationex on Apr 15, 2020 11:41:39 GMT
The club’s badge says 1863, implying it was founded in 1863. I guess they perceive it as a big deal as it’s the only actual content on the badge other than the club’s name.
The video game EA Sports ‘FIFA ‘20’ states the club was founded in 1868. This is written underneath the badge in order to emphasis the alleged fakery of the club.
I like the fact no one from Stoke City has ever challenged this, lending a devil may care all-history-is-tosh attitude to the very foundations of the club.
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Post by redstriper on Apr 15, 2020 11:50:03 GMT
We were the first professional club to publicly announce that every ill that befalls the world is due to Dave Kitson...and also the first to pioneer the acronym "PHW" After 119 years at the Vic, we were the first team to play matches at a discount supermarket, after being sold to Iceland. The "strange but false" thread has been resurrected on the other board |
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Post by rhodes2stoke on Apr 15, 2020 11:56:19 GMT
Prior to its last ever game the Victoria Ground was the oldest active/used sports venue/ground in the world? If this is true which I'm sure I read it at the time of moving grounds, I will never forgive Stoke Council for not making more of this...
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 15, 2020 11:59:17 GMT
The club’s badge says 1863, implying it was founded in 1863. I guess they perceive it as a big deal as it’s the only actual content on the badge other than the club’s name. The video game EA Sports ‘FIFA ‘20’ states the club was founded in 1868. This is written underneath the badge in order to emphasis the alleged fakery of the club. I like the fact no one from Stoke City has ever challenged this, lending a devil may care all-history-is-tosh attitude to the very foundations of the club. Isn't it something to do with stoke ramblers being or not being the prequel to stoke city? |
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Post by Veritas on Apr 15, 2020 12:14:15 GMT
The club’s badge says 1863, implying it was founded in 1863. I guess they perceive it as a big deal as it’s the only actual content on the badge other than the club’s name. The video game EA Sports ‘FIFA ‘20’ states the club was founded in 1868. This is written underneath the badge in order to emphasis the alleged fakery of the club. I like the fact no one from Stoke City has ever challenged this, lending a devil may care all-history-is-tosh attitude to the very foundations of the club. Isn't it something to do with stoke ramblers being or not being the prequel to stoke city? In his Encyclopedia of Stoke City Tony Matthews concedes there is no actual evidence of a football club before 1868. |
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 15, 2020 12:18:07 GMT
We’re by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen.
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Post by generationex on Apr 15, 2020 12:25:41 GMT
There’s some evidence that football was played in Stoke in 1863 and organised by a person later connected to Stoke FC.
It would be interesting to know if Stoke City FC concede there was an error - but after making a big deal of it on your badge, 100th and 150th anniversary maybe it’s too embarrassing.
But if they don’t accept 1868 why are they not challenging these EA muppets?
What next - FIFA 21 with ‘Stoke City’, nickname ‘The Logistics’ (as there is no evidence pottery was ever made in the town of Stoke)??
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 15, 2020 13:21:24 GMT
Thanks to the often repeated question of "Can they do it on a Wet and Windy night at Stoke?" we are one of the most famous and feared football clubs in the world.
When the club played at the Victoria Ground the River Trent actually flowed under the Boothen End and the club were literally Stoke, on Trent.
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 15, 2020 13:39:53 GMT
A Stoke match still registers the highest UK football ground attendance for any match outside Wembley. On 3 March 1934, Stokes 6th round FA Cup game against Manchester City at Maine Rd attracted an official crowd attendance of 84,569. Stoke's own home Victoria ground record is 51,380 when City played a game of Association football in the English First Division against Arsenal on 29th March 1937. The Arsenal Manager at the time, George Allison, is believed to have commented that the way Stoke played made the match more like a game of Rugby. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 15, 2020 13:44:06 GMT
Looks like we are twinned with Basra 😎
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Post by Veritas on Apr 15, 2020 13:49:06 GMT
There’s some evidence that football was played in Stoke in 1863 and organised by a person later connected to Stoke FC. It would be interesting to know if Stoke City FC concede there was an error - but after making a big deal of it on your badge, 100th and 150th anniversary maybe it’s too embarrassing. But if they don’t accept 1868 why are they not challenging these EA muppets? What next - FIFA 21 with ‘Stoke City’, nickname ‘The Logistics’ (as there is no evidence pottery was ever made in the town of Stoke)?? What evidence is that? As much as I would want 1863 to be true I have never seen anything remotely convincing. |
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Post by wilcopotter on Apr 15, 2020 14:15:01 GMT
Captain Smith of the Titanic from Hanley. Is he an ancestor of Paul Lambert? |
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Post by tnbiscuitswithtone on Apr 15, 2020 14:21:59 GMT
The "extra time" for penalties was because a villa player kicked the ball out of the ground on the 90 minute so the kick couldn't be taken.
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Post by AlliG on Apr 15, 2020 14:41:41 GMT
There’s some evidence that football was played in Stoke in 1863 and organised by a person later connected to Stoke FC. It would be interesting to know if Stoke City FC concede there was an error - but after making a big deal of it on your badge, 100th and 150th anniversary maybe it’s too embarrassing. But if they don’t accept 1868 why are they not challenging these EA muppets? What next - FIFA 21 with ‘Stoke City’, nickname ‘The Logistics’ (as there is no evidence pottery was ever made in the town of Stoke)?? I have an old and very fragile Six Towns Magazine Stoke City Souvenir Supplement (from 1967 or 68) which has a 22 page potted history of the club. There are 2 references to 1863 in that magazine. One refers to a Mr S K Bowden who stated that according to his family history the first meeting of the club took place on Midsummer's Day 1863 and the first match took place on the last day of the same summer (September 22nd 1863) The second refers to an interview that had been given by a Mr S Sargeant of Wolstanton in 1935, who described the first use of a football in his school playground (St Peter's Stoke) in 1862 and that teachers from the school formed the club in the following summer. The first secretary was Mr J W Thomas who was also headmaster of St Peter's at the time. Mr Thomas also owned The Red Lion in Stoke and served on the town council but resigned sometime in the later 1800s and "vanished". The magazine also refers to Armand, Bell, Matthews & Philpott (the other alleged founders of the club) who were supposedly ex Charterhouse pupils who came to the town with the railway, but, it says no trace can be found for their existence. There are a number of fascinating little snippets but, in light of all the recent talk about player's wages there is one that seems quite relevant. In 1883 Tom Clare (part of the famous Clare, Underwood & Rowley trio who formed the England defence at the time) was being paid 2 shillings & sixpence a week along with the other players. They discovered that another, un-named, player was being paid 5 shillings a week. The players all went on strike until the club capitulated and agreed to pay them all 5 shillings a week! |
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Post by tnbiscuitswithtone on Apr 15, 2020 15:04:03 GMT
We're the best behaved suppliers in the land !! (when we win)
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 15, 2020 15:15:29 GMT
But if they don’t accept 1868 why are they not challenging these EA muppets? Because then the burden of proof would be on Stoke, and there is absolutely bollock all proper evidence of 1863. It's just hearsay probably based on one or two people's flawed memories. Still as long as it's on the badge I'll be touting us as the oldest league club in the world |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 15, 2020 15:33:44 GMT
We never lost a game at the old Wembley or The Millennium Stadium!  |
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2020 16:11:27 GMT
We were the first team to finish bottom of any league anywhere ever.
We were also the second team to finish bottom of any league anywhere ever.
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 15, 2020 17:09:15 GMT
The cortege procession for Sir Stanley Matthews in March of 2000, probably had one of the biggest attendances ever for the funeral of a non royal in Britain.
Up to 100,000 people were believed to have lined the streets of Stoke-on-Trent for the funeral of the footballing legend. The figure puts Stan up there with Margaret Thatcher, Winston Churchill, the Duke of Wellington and Lord Nelson. and Princess Diana. Perhaps surprisingly, although undoubtedly well attended, the funerals of Margaret Thatcher and Diana Spencer were not State funerals, though the others were. Diana was not officially a "Royal" in her own right and did not qualify for the honour. Curiously one of the only hugely attended funerals in living memory that could compete with Sir Stans was the East End send off for Reggie Kray, also in 2,000, although in that instance attendance was virtually "compulsory" for many mourners.
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