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Campbell
Sept 8, 2020 22:38:25 GMT
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Post by miltonstokienew on Sept 8, 2020 22:38:25 GMT
The manager not rating the player. Fishing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 8, 2020 22:40:33 GMT
The manager not rating the player. Fishing. I wish I was. It's what two separate people have told me and it fits with what has happened with him in lockdown etc. I hope to shit it is bollocks for 2 reasons. I want to believe MON is fucking great. And I want to see Campbell score 20 goals for us and get us promoted. The two imo go hand in hand.
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Post by datguy on Sept 8, 2020 22:47:43 GMT
As much as I'm happy with Jacob Brown, it does flare a few red signals regarding Ty.
They seem the exact same player, and if I'm being honest, I'll be pleasantly surprised if Brown is better than Ty.
But one thing I did find odd the other day was that MO'N put Ty in the same bracket as Tymon, TOB and I think Sorensen (?). Said it in a context that suggests he's nowhere near as much as a 'first name on the teamsheet' as he perhaps should be.
Which would be odd because I think he continually impressed last season under MO'N.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 8, 2020 22:50:40 GMT
It seems he will be going.
I don't think the manager rates him + he is one of the only players we have who we can actually sell + we are signing another wide/forward player tomorrow = He's offski.
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Campbell
Sept 8, 2020 22:53:14 GMT
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Post by miltonstokienew on Sept 8, 2020 22:53:14 GMT
I wish I was. It's what two separate people have told me and it fits with what has happened with him in lockdown etc. I hope to shit it is bollocks for 2 reasons. I want to believe MON is fucking great. And I want to see Campbell score 20 goals for us and get us promoted. The two imo go hand in hand. I don't believe for a second MON does not rate him, also 3 off my mates have said he's going nowhere. Thats good enough for me. We will see.
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Post by datguy on Sept 8, 2020 22:53:47 GMT
It seems he will be going. I don't think the manager rates him + he is one of the only players we have who we can actually sell + we are signing another wide/forward player tomorrow = He's offski. How about we keep Ty and don't sign this other lad then? Can almost guarantee Ty is better.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 8, 2020 23:00:26 GMT
Here he goes , you know fuck all. Funnily enough a second person completely unconnected has messaged me the same thing! In this case I really hope you're right. And it's not about the money. MON gave him his chance, he's broken through thanks to MON so how can it be said he doesn't rate him?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 8, 2020 23:01:56 GMT
Funnily enough a second person completely unconnected has messaged me the same thing! In this case I really hope you're right. And it's not about the money. MON gave him his chance, he's broken through thanks to MON so how can it be said he doesn't rate him? Because he wants to sell him? Supposedly..........
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 8, 2020 23:26:51 GMT
The manager not rating the player. If that was true he's an utter moron, I'm not convinced its though, he could have easily dropped him if he wanted to.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 8, 2020 23:28:23 GMT
The manager not rating the player. If that was true he's an utter moron, I'm not convinced its though, he could have easily dropped him if he wanted to. He did during lockdown didn't he? And then he didn't start the League Cup game?
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 8, 2020 23:35:33 GMT
As much as I'm happy with Jacob Brown, it does flare a few red signals regarding Ty. They seem the exact same player, and if I'm being honest, I'll be pleasantly surprised if Brown is better than Ty. But one thing I did find odd the other day was that MO'N put Ty in the same bracket as Tymon, TOB and I think Sorensen (?). Said it in a context that suggests he's nowhere near as much as a 'first name on the teamsheet' as he perhaps should be. Which would be odd because I think he continually impressed last season under MO'N. I'd hope there's a role for both. Fletcher isn't going to start every game at 33 and Vokes and Gregory proved last season that we can't rely on either for long periods. Afobe coming off the back of a serious knee injury isn't a banker either. The logical move for me would be to shift one of Vokes or Gregory as just can't see a use for both of those and Fletcher as we likely won't have more than one of those three on the pitch at any given time. At least Afobe offers something slightly different and still has age on his side.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 8, 2020 23:49:27 GMT
If that was true he's an utter moron, I'm not convinced its though, he could have easily dropped him if he wanted to. He did during lockdown didn't he? And then he didn't start the League Cup game? Thats true and now with the Brown link is a bit worrying, I really hope he isn't a moron.
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Campbell
Sept 9, 2020 1:04:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 1:04:45 GMT
MON gave him his chance, he's broken through thanks to MON so how can it be said he doesn't rate him? Because he wants to sell him? Supposedly.......... Or he’s paying for the terrible signings we’ve been unable to shift since before he got here. If he has to go, then we better get enough money to make sure FFP isn’t a problem. If we don’t, then it’s a ludicrous decision. Would hate to see him go as I think he could be our top scorer this year. If he does go, I just hope it’s to the Prem.
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Campbell
Sept 9, 2020 3:50:23 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Sept 9, 2020 3:50:23 GMT
Dunno I hear sandbanks is quite nice.
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Post by s7oke on Sept 9, 2020 3:53:21 GMT
"We'd like to enquire about Tyrese Campbell?" "You're not in the Premier League anymore you Mickey Mouse twats, how does fuck off sound?" I have been told we're actively looking to sell.... Yea wimmer Bauer Etebo Ndiaye Gregory Vokes Ince Any of the above will do
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 9, 2020 4:41:38 GMT
Surely is new contract that he signed would have a buyout clause in it? I would guess, because that's all any of us can do in this situation, he probably had a relegation release clause considering the shit position we were in when he signed it. Other than that? I doubt it.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 9, 2020 4:42:57 GMT
Bayern playing the role of "ITK" doesn't sit well with me, please stop it.
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Campbell
Sept 9, 2020 4:57:13 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 9, 2020 4:57:13 GMT
Hopefully a bit of lazy journalism. Mildly Linked in Jan... Need a new striker... Blah blah blah.
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Campbell
Sept 9, 2020 6:15:02 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 9, 2020 6:15:02 GMT
Well Bournemouth certainly have the cash.
Be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 6:31:56 GMT
If we're going to want to invest money back into the team then players will have to be sold. It's as simple and complex as that. It's about getting maximum value for what you sign into the club, ensuring your targets coming into your club match what you want and improve what you already have in the building, and of course getting top dollar for the players you sell.
I've never got the feeling that O'Neill really likes what he sees in Campbell. The strikers he uses and has brought into the club are not the same as Tyrese, and he's punted him out wide pretty early on. We're now heavily linked with a young, aggressive and direct winger - something Campbell isn't. Campbell is more of a drifter out wide that will score his fair share of goals.
I can see this one being a goer and think it will all be about how much Bournemouth can cough up.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 9, 2020 6:38:22 GMT
If we're going to want to invest money back into the team then players will have to be sold. It's as simple and complex as that. It's about getting maximum value for what you sign into the club, ensuring your targets coming into your club match what you want and improve what you already have in the building, and of course getting top dollar for the players you sell. I've never got the feeling that O'Neill really likes what he sees in Campbell. The strikers he uses and has brought into the club are not the same as Tyrese, and he's punted him out wide pretty early on. We're now heavily linked with a young, aggressive and direct winger - something Campbell isn't. Campbell is more of a drifter out wide that will score his fair share of goals. I can see this one being a goer and think it will all be about how much Bournemouth can cough up. Ye get rid of him and play Gregory and sicknote ( Fletcher) up front , onwards and upwards
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 6:43:14 GMT
If we're going to want to invest money back into the team then players will have to be sold. It's as simple and complex as that. It's about getting maximum value for what you sign into the club, ensuring your targets coming into your club match what you want and improve what you already have in the building, and of course getting top dollar for the players you sell. I've never got the feeling that O'Neill really likes what he sees in Campbell. The strikers he uses and has brought into the club are not the same as Tyrese, and he's punted him out wide pretty early on. We're now heavily linked with a young, aggressive and direct winger - something Campbell isn't. Campbell is more of a drifter out wide that will score his fair share of goals. I can see this one being a goer and think it will all be about how much Bournemouth can cough up. Ye get rid of him and play Gregory and sicknote ( Fletcher) up front , onwards and upwards They're not my thoughts. I'm trying to paraphrase what the manager and club might be thinking. If we keep him, it doesn't mean we're automatically going to be successful and if we sell, the opposite way around does it? The biggest issue this club has brought about itself is buying and selling the wrong players and creating a squad that doesn't fit what the manager wants. If selling Campbell and bringing in Brown creates more of a team and squad that the manager wants in terms of certain attributes he's identified then that will be doing things the right way around for a change - even if we don't agree with the minutiae of each deal.
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Post by telfordstokie on Sept 9, 2020 6:46:51 GMT
Bit baffled by this idea that MON doesn’t rate Campbell given he played a central role in him signing a new contract earlier this year.
If he does go to Bournemouth I hope we can hold out for much more than the £10m quoted in that article - Bournemouth have made a huge amount in player sales this summer and probably still have a few more to go out like Brooks.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 9, 2020 6:49:29 GMT
If we're going to want to invest money back into the team then players will have to be sold. It's as simple and complex as that. It's about getting maximum value for what you sign into the club, ensuring your targets coming into your club match what you want and improve what you already have in the building, and of course getting top dollar for the players you sell. I've never got the feeling that O'Neill really likes what he sees in Campbell. The strikers he uses and has brought into the club are not the same as Tyrese, and he's punted him out wide pretty early on. We're now heavily linked with a young, aggressive and direct winger - something Campbell isn't. Campbell is more of a drifter out wide that will score his fair share of goals. I can see this one being a goer and think it will all be about how much Bournemouth can cough up. Yeah - at the end of the day, it'll be MON's call. If we really wanted to keep him, I'm sure we could and we could go on rubbing right against our FFP limits. But there'll obviously come a number where for MON , the numbers make sense IF he doesn't see him as integral in the short-term (and the fact he probably won't start on Saturday and we've just signed a player who could take a lot of his game time) suggests he isn't that yet in MON's mind. Suppose that's just reality now we aren't a big fish anymore in the FFP era. Prem and parachute teams can largely gobble up who they want for the right price. What that magic number is for a 20 year-old with 4 years left on his deal with 9 goals in half a season, largely from the right, who knows?
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 9, 2020 6:50:49 GMT
Bit baffled by this idea that MON doesn’t rate Campbell given he played a central role in him signing a new contract earlier this year. If he does go to Bournemouth I hope we can hold out for much more than the £10m quoted in that article - Bournemouth have made a huge amount in player sales this summer and probably still have a few more to go out like Brooks. I get the feeling that if one person posts it enough it becomes fact.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 9, 2020 6:53:15 GMT
If we are forced to sell our best young hope to Bournemouth for financial reasons the true scope of the job Scholes has done over 4 years will be encapsulated in that one transaction a utter and abjection abortion as one of the worlds biggest billionaires is outmuscled by Jason “ sunbed “ Tindall and a tinpot Imposter in comparison Tyson Fury Knocked out by John Inman
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 6:55:42 GMT
If we're going to want to invest money back into the team then players will have to be sold. It's as simple and complex as that. It's about getting maximum value for what you sign into the club, ensuring your targets coming into your club match what you want and improve what you already have in the building, and of course getting top dollar for the players you sell. I've never got the feeling that O'Neill really likes what he sees in Campbell. The strikers he uses and has brought into the club are not the same as Tyrese, and he's punted him out wide pretty early on. We're now heavily linked with a young, aggressive and direct winger - something Campbell isn't. Campbell is more of a drifter out wide that will score his fair share of goals. I can see this one being a goer and think it will all be about how much Bournemouth can cough up. Yeah - at the end of the day, it'll be MON's call. If we really wanted to keep him, I'm sure we could and we could go on rubbing right against our FFP limits. But there'll obviously come a number where for MON , the numbers make sense IF he doesn't see him as integral in the short-term (and the fact he probably won't start on Saturday and we've just signed a player who could take a lot of his game time) suggests he isn't that yet in MON's mind. Suppose that's just reality now we aren't a big fish anymore in the FFP era. Prem and parachute teams can largely gobble up who they want for the right price. What that magic number is for a 20 year-old with 4 years left on his deal with 9 goals in half a season, largely from the right, who knows? In my honest opinion the starting figure is at least 15M, more like 20M given his goals output in half a season with add ons and sell ons. However, our very public dumbing down of our financial power by the club may and probably will work against us again. Clubs will know we're desperate to turn the squad around and desperate for money to do it. The fact we're buying a player today (supposedly) leads me to believe there is a deal very close on a player going out given what the manager has said about how tight our finances are.
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Campbell
Sept 9, 2020 6:56:41 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 9, 2020 6:56:41 GMT
If we are forced to sell our best young hope to Bournemouth for financial reasons the true scope of the job Scholes has done over 4 years will be encapsulated in that one transaction a utter and abjection abortion as one of the worlds biggest billionaires is outmuscled by Jason “ sunbed “ Tindall and a tinpot Imposter in comparison Tyson Fury Knocked out by John Inman You're relentless Benji, I'll give you that.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 9, 2020 7:02:02 GMT
Yeah - at the end of the day, it'll be MON's call. If we really wanted to keep him, I'm sure we could and we could go on rubbing right against our FFP limits. But there'll obviously come a number where for MON , the numbers make sense IF he doesn't see him as integral in the short-term (and the fact he probably won't start on Saturday and we've just signed a player who could take a lot of his game time) suggests he isn't that yet in MON's mind. Suppose that's just reality now we aren't a big fish anymore in the FFP era. Prem and parachute teams can largely gobble up who they want for the right price. What that magic number is for a 20 year-old with 4 years left on his deal with 9 goals in half a season, largely from the right, who knows? In my honest opinion the starting figure is at least 15M, more like 20M given his goals output in half a season with add ons and sell ons. However, our very public dumbing down of our financial power by the club may and probably will work against us again. Clubs will know we're desperate to turn the squad around and desperate for money to do it. The fact we're buying a player today (supposedly) leads me to believe there is a deal very close on a player going out given what the manager has said about how tight our finances are. www.footballinsider247.com/sources-stoke-city-knock-back-10m-offer-from-pl-club/Yeah - 15 is the conversation starter, especially if true they offered 10 in January. We know they're going to pull in 100 million plus this summer in sales.
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Post by doitforfrank on Sept 9, 2020 7:05:20 GMT
If we are forced to sell our best young hope to Bournemouth for financial reasons the true scope of the job Scholes has done over 4 years will be encapsulated in that one transaction a utter and abjection abortion as one of the worlds biggest billionaires is outmuscled by Jason “ sunbed “ Tindall and a tinpot Imposter in comparison Tyson Fury Knocked out by John Inman You're relentless Benji, I'll give you that. Would he be wrong though?
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