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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2020 20:18:39 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines
At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong?
We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today
My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not.
We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all
Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with
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Post by zerps on Feb 15, 2020 20:20:16 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with Or you could say we’ve started going backwards again? |
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2020 20:24:21 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with Or you could say we’ve started going backwards again? i don’t think so Zerps. We were poor for 60 minutes but that doesn’t mean we need to hit the panic button just yet |
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Post by zerps on Feb 15, 2020 20:26:02 GMT
Or you could say we’ve started going backwards again? i don’t think so Zerps. We were poor for 60 minutes but that doesn’t mean we need to hit the panic button just yet Defence looks shot again. Including goal keeper. Fuck knows anymore mate 😄 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 20:27:24 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with Or you could say we’ve started going backwards again? Apart from 20 odd minutes against Preston after we conceded a goal against the run of play our home form has been solid, that will ultimately keep us up I reckon..... |
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2020 20:28:06 GMT
Or you could say we’ve started going backwards again? Apart from 20 odd minutes against Preston after we conceded a goal against the run of play our home form has been solid, that will ultimately keep us up I reckon..... well said. And I believe it will too |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Feb 15, 2020 20:28:13 GMT
Or you could say we’ve started going backwards again? Apart from 20 odd minutes against Preston after we conceded a goal against the run of play our home form has been solid, that will ultimately keep us up I reckon..... We'd better change the shape and personal for the next home game then 🤣👍 |
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2020 20:29:03 GMT
i don’t think so Zerps. We were poor for 60 minutes but that doesn’t mean we need to hit the panic button just yet Defence looks shot again. Including goal keeper. Fuck knows anymore mate 😄 it does, but we have the right man in our corner mate. We will be ok |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 15, 2020 20:30:00 GMT
QPR were in pretty horrid form and struggling for goals and they could have scored a hatful. It’s deeply concerning given the nature of the goals conceded.
What today has pretty much guaranteed is that now every single game is crucial and we’ve got to pick up points before the return fixtures with Barnsley, Luton and Wigan. Because if we don’t and we come off second best in those gamed we are in massive trouble. The squad is bloated but we still don’t have depth in key areas and it’ll bite you in the end.
O’Neill did well when he first came in, had a drop off then got them firing again. He has to do it again by hook or by crook.
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2020 20:30:42 GMT
Apart from 20 odd minutes against Preston after we conceded a goal against the run of play our home form has been solid, that will ultimately keep us up I reckon..... We'd better change the shape and personal for the next home game then 🤣👍 1 or 2 changes for me. I have to say I’d select Collins at the very least |
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 15, 2020 20:32:40 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with To concede 8 goals in the last two away games is relegation form no matter how you dress it up |
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2020 20:36:02 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with To concede 8 goals in the last two away games is relegation form no matter how you dress it up yes but you can cherry pick whatever stats you like. Our form since new year is playoff form so let’s be fair here It is a worry but I don’t think we need to throw the baby out with the bath water. I’d play Collins instead of Batth and the remainder of the side pretty much stays the same for me |
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 15, 2020 20:41:08 GMT
The performance today was very concerning.
For the first time in four managerial appointments we actually had a 'new manager bounce' with MON, I do worry that the complacent rat shit attitude of the current squad is coming to the fore again.
What a fucking horrible group of players this bunch are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 20:44:28 GMT
Apart from 20 odd minutes against Preston after we conceded a goal against the run of play our home form has been solid, that will ultimately keep us up I reckon..... We'd better change the shape and personal for the next home game then 🤣👍 It’s personnel. |
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Post by jeycov on Feb 15, 2020 20:44:46 GMT
We need to keep Campbell and Powell fit
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Post by thehoof on Feb 15, 2020 20:46:38 GMT
To concede 8 goals in the last two away games is relegation form no matter how you dress it up yes but you can cherry pick whatever stats you like. Our form since new year is playoff form so let’s be fair here It is a worry but I don’t think we need to throw the baby out with the bath water. I’d play Collins instead of Batth and the remainder of the side pretty much stays the same for me If play off form is 3 defeats out of four, against teams( other than Preston) whom are around us ( or were until smacking our bum), then we’ll stay up no problem. After our horrific defending against Derby, Preston and now QPR, I have little confidence that we will keep clean sheets at Wigan or Luton, so we had better have our shooting boots on. I don’t feel anywhere near as confident of staying up as I did before the Derby game. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 15, 2020 20:47:22 GMT
To concede 8 goals in the last two away games is relegation form no matter how you dress it up yes but you can cherry pick whatever stats you like. Our form since new year is playoff form so let’s be fair here It is a worry but I don’t think we need to throw the baby out with the bath water. I’d play Collins instead of Batth and the remainder of the side pretty much stays the same for me I know what you saying , it really could of been 8 today , but it was only 4 , when MON watches it back hopefully with the team they will see they were awful and marking fresh air , why he doesn’t give the lad from spurs a game is beyond me , surely he couldn’t be any worse than those on show today |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Feb 15, 2020 20:48:01 GMT
We'd better change the shape and personal for the next home game then 🤣👍 It’s personnel. Just checking. It's taken you long enough! |
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Post by robstokie on Feb 15, 2020 20:49:09 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with Well said - it happens in football. Yes, there's things about today that were frightening - such as our defending and the competency of the back 4, but, we are miles off where we were. We need to thank Millwall for the fact we now have a solid chance of survival - if they didn't hire Rowett, we still would have been paying his contract, and, because we wouldn't have had the money to fire the Welsh clown, he would probably still be here, and I honestly think we would be on about half as many points as we are now. Next week is a must win now - if not necessarily for the points, but to nip this form in the bud and to rebuild a bit of confidence. |
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Post by boweryboy on Feb 15, 2020 20:58:34 GMT
This defence as it stands will get us relegated no question!!,I will be very very surprised if Mon doesn't react with at least two changes at the back for our next game.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 15, 2020 21:00:11 GMT
Sensible OP which I agree with.
My problem is that although we have the manager to keep us up, the players to keep us up, and there is a belief that we can stay up, it will not happen unless we make it happen.
Whilst the players have ability, I have serious doubt about their resolve and whether they have the character to fulfill their potential. Only McClean ever convinces me that he is giving 100%, so many of the others appear to be simply going through the motions of another day at the office.
Ironically I thought the first quarter of the match today was one of our most convincing displays of creative football for a very long time, with some great interplay between the players. The spineless collapse when they started attacking though is very worrying.
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2020 21:10:04 GMT
This defence as it stands will get us relegated no question!!,I will be very very surprised if Mon doesn't react with at least two changes at the back for our next game. id like to see Collins in at the very least. I know we got thumped at derby but I thought Tymon did ok too. But due to us having limited options, I’d play Smith-Collins-Chester-Bruno as a back 4 |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Feb 16, 2020 8:25:38 GMT
This defence as it stands will get us relegated no question!!,I will be very very surprised if Mon doesn't react with at least two changes at the back for our next game. id like to see Collins in at the very least. I know we got thumped at derby but I thought Tymon did ok too. But due to us having limited options, I’d play Smith-Collins-Chester-Bruno as a back 4 Hasn’t Chesters played left back why not swop him with Bruno ? |
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 16, 2020 9:00:44 GMT
Get Butland out of this team straightaway, he is bloody awful
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 16, 2020 9:31:04 GMT
I'd get Lindsay back in, Batth would have been the one I dropped for a new man, he'd finally started looking decent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 9:50:48 GMT
Sensible OP which I agree with. My problem is that although we have the manager to keep us up, the players to keep us up, and there is a belief that we can stay up, it will not happen unless we make it happen. Whilst the players have ability, I have serious doubt about their resolve and whether they have the character to fulfill their potential. Only McClean ever convinces me that he is giving 100%, so many of the others appear to be simply going through the motions of another day at the office. Ironically I thought the first quarter of the match today was one of our most convincing displays of creative football for a very long time, with some great interplay between the players. The spineless collapse when they started attacking though is very worrying. The signs were there before we scored. They missed 2 glorious chances before Clucas scored |
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Post by saturday on Feb 16, 2020 20:13:10 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with Yes- what a great post,!!! It cheered me up reading it. Who’d have thought after that 4,0 slip up at Derby, we’d go on to win 3,1 at home to Charlton. Keep the faith! Although I do have my Grandpa’s voice in my head who would have seen Stanley Matthews play..’they only let you down.’ keep smiling everyone x |
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 16, 2020 20:23:37 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with Yes- what a great post,!!! It cheered me up reading it. Who’d have thought after that 4,0 slip up at Derby, we’d go on to win 3,1 at home to Charlton. Keep the faith! Although I do have my Grandpa’s voice in my head who would have seen Stanley Matthews play..’they only let you down.’ keep smiling everyone x thank you |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 20:32:19 GMT
At the end of November I think I’m right in saying we all thought we were down. We had a clueless manager playing players out of position and ranting and raving on the sidelines At that point everyone of us would have taken 4 points clear of relegation come mid feb. is that right or wrong? We played well first half on Wednesday but lost, played well for 30 minutes today My point chaps is that just because we have had a shocker after they scored their first that we are doomed. We certainly are not. We have a good manager that is a cool calming influence and I think we will be just fine. We have Luton, Barnsley and Wigan all to come and we can beat them all Qpr was always going to be tough and we are all bitterly disappointed especially after the first 27 minutes or so. But we are a long way forward of that shambles of a side that Jones left us with Your timing is a little off. The alleged clueless manager was sacked November 1, so at the end of November we had a senssible manager though at that point he hadn't fully turned things around. That came later. It's not over yet. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 16, 2020 22:31:41 GMT
After that shit show on Saturday i think we will be very lucky to stay up we need 16 points from our remaining games. These players just do not have the fight or the will to battle for survival games coming up against Barnsley Wigan & Luton are vital but fill me with dread.
We also have Leeds Bristol City & Notts Forest away who are all playing for automatic promotion or a play off place it does not look good at all & i feel sorry for MON who i think is a good manager but he has been dealt a very poor squad of players who are just not up to it.
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