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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jan 26, 2020 22:05:27 GMT
I don’t want to knock him and the partnership is obviously working at the minute, I just think Collins is miles better. That's a fair enough opinion but in terms of that game Collins did nothing to show him up, he came on did what was needed which is obviously a good thing and that was about it. Full disclosure I don't agree that Collins is the better player just yet, I've seen some shocking defending and some good from him, the jury is still out for me. It'll be interesting to see where we are in a couple of years time with Collins and Lindsay. If they both continue improving as you'd expect two young defenders to, we could have the makings of a very decent young center back partnership.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 26, 2020 23:03:01 GMT
That's a fair enough opinion but in terms of that game Collins did nothing to show him up, he came on did what was needed which is obviously a good thing and that was about it. Imo what does me is the Collins is far from the finished article but is streets ahead of Lindsey. But he cant get a look in. Full disclosure I don't agree that Collins is the better player just yet, I've seen some shocking defending and some good from him, the jury is still out for me. It'll be interesting to see where we are in a couple of years time with Collins and Lindsay. If they both continue improving as you'd expect two young defenders to, we could have the makings of a very decent young center back partnership.
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Post by sensiblestokie on Jan 27, 2020 1:54:29 GMT
Have to say earlier on in the season I thought there was no chance this lad was good enough to ever play for us long term.
He’s been really good since our revival, long may it continue!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 31, 2020 21:29:02 GMT
Back to business as usual for Liam.
Just nowhere near good enough. O'Neill is a top manager but he's got it wrong playing him ahead of Collins
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:30:23 GMT
Lindsay getting rolled for their 2nd goal is a weekly occurrence, it's kids football defending......
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 31, 2020 21:31:34 GMT
I thought he was the next Bobby Moore according to some reports after the last two games.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 31, 2020 21:31:37 GMT
Lindsay getting rolled for their 2nd goal is a weekly occurrence, it's kids football defending...... He does it every week. But we win a few so he can’t be criticised. So infuriating. Collins and Chester have to come in.
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Post by westyorkspotter on Jan 31, 2020 21:32:27 GMT
Utter gash
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 31, 2020 21:35:31 GMT
He's shit again now we're losing.....
Only the other day he was ace, coming good now!!!
I'm no fan, but it's sooooo fickle on here!!!
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Post by hooftastic on Jan 31, 2020 21:36:39 GMT
He's shit again now we're losing..... Only the other day he was ace, coming good now!!! I'm no fan, but it's sooooo fickle on here!!! Or people call a good performance, a good performance and a wank one, a wank one
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 31, 2020 21:37:16 GMT
He's shit again now we're losing..... Only the other day he was ace, coming good now!!! I'm no fan, but it's sooooo fickle on here!!! I agree but he was shite in them too. But the general rule is that you can’t criticise a player if we win. It’s odd. Anyone who is objective could see the pair at the back were still an issue even when winning. Batth excepted against WBA where he was very good.
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Post by chumley on Jan 31, 2020 21:45:49 GMT
Piss poor for their second, weak challenge and jogged back..needs spell out and get chester in or collins.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:49:23 GMT
I'd take Shawcross in a wheelchair over this useless prick.
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Post by neddy on Jan 31, 2020 21:51:28 GMT
Just really hope MON is astute enough to clock all this and act accordingly in summer providing we can scrape up?
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Post by redwhite on Jan 31, 2020 21:53:02 GMT
Has he ever done anything to suggest he’s not absolutely wank? Never understood how he’s anywhere near the team.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 31, 2020 21:54:14 GMT
Time for Chester already!
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Post by liathroid on Jan 31, 2020 21:56:22 GMT
Will Chester start and for who
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 31, 2020 21:57:42 GMT
Lindsay getting rolled for their 2nd goal is a weekly occurrence, it's kids football defending...... He does it every week. But we win a few so he can’t be criticised. So infuriating. Collins and Chester have to come in. It is fair to say that every mistake we've made today, the same players have also made in each of the previous games. Tonight we got punished whereas in previous games we haven't. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again. To get this team winning games is a miracle. To get that back 4, with a 2 man midfield of Allen and Clucas, keeping clean sheets is a miracle even Jesus Christ couldn't make happen. O'Neil is doing an unbelievable job with an absolute pile of shit.
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Post by s7oke on Jan 31, 2020 22:00:32 GMT
I'd take Shawcross in a wheelchair over this useless prick. You talking about Ince now ? 😂
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Post by spoton on Jan 31, 2020 22:00:33 GMT
I even rate this player worse than Wimmer and that says alot the rugby tackle last match sums him up he couldn't even do that right, absolutely rubbish the quicker he's out of the squad the better
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 31, 2020 22:00:51 GMT
He does it every week. But we win a few so he can’t be criticised. So infuriating. Collins and Chester have to come in. It is fair to say that every mistake we've made today, the same players have also made in each of the previous games. Tonight we got punished whereas in previous games we haven't. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again. To get this team winning games is a miracle. To get that back 4, with a 2 man midfield of Allen and Clucas, keeping clean sheets is a miracle even Jesus Christ couldn't make happen. O'Neil is doing an unbelievable job with an absolute pile of shit. I think he’s doing a great job yeah. But I don’t think we’re a pile of shit. He’s just picking the shit players. We have a better back 4 not playing. We sent two better midfielders out on loan. We could make it easier for ourselves
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 22:02:52 GMT
Chester will play after today.
We shouldn't see much more of him.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 31, 2020 22:04:50 GMT
It is fair to say that every mistake we've made today, the same players have also made in each of the previous games. Tonight we got punished whereas in previous games we haven't. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again. To get this team winning games is a miracle. To get that back 4, with a 2 man midfield of Allen and Clucas, keeping clean sheets is a miracle even Jesus Christ couldn't make happen. O'Neil is doing an unbelievable job with an absolute pile of shit. I think he’s doing a great job yeah. But I don’t think we’re a pile of shit. He’s just picking the shit players. We have a better back 4 not playing. We sent two better midfielders out on loan. We could make it easier for ourselves Tom Edwards doesn't make our back 4 better. Shawcross is injured and if you are correct, BMI has once again thrown his toys out of the pram and we have no alternative. Of those missing out, only Collins can feel hard done to not to be playing. The 2 midfielders didn't want to be here and couldn't get out fast enough. O'Neil has inherited an absolute shit show and he's working miracles to date.
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Post by rorystowel on Jan 31, 2020 22:08:30 GMT
Lindsay was poor today, but Smith and Batth were terrible too. In fact I can’t think of ANY Stoke player who could be proud of their performance tonight.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 31, 2020 22:09:09 GMT
First bad game in a while, pile ooooonnnnnn.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 31, 2020 22:12:49 GMT
Every single Stoke player today was complete and utter shit, no player would have scored more than a 4. There really was no MOTM they were all really really shit. What I'm saying is that Lindsay was as shit as everyone around him and therefore no more shit or no better shit than the shit around him.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 31, 2020 22:13:51 GMT
He's shit again now we're losing..... Only the other day he was ace, coming good now!!! I'm no fan, but it's sooooo fickle on here!!! Or people call a good performance, a good performance and a wank one, a wank one Yeah, but it wasn't like that!!!
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Post by rorystowel on Jan 31, 2020 22:16:59 GMT
First bad game in a while, pile ooooonnnnnn. It wasn’t just “bad” though, it was one of our worst performances of the season and that’s saying something.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 1, 2020 9:56:57 GMT
Seems like he is caught out of position once or twice every game, I think I'd play Chester instead in our next game.
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Post by teagles05 on Feb 1, 2020 9:59:58 GMT
Has he ever done anything to suggest he’s not absolutely wank? Never understood how he’s anywhere near the team. Couldn't agree more, he's absolute shite. Sprints out of the line late, misses his tackle and leaves a massive gap that Batth can't cover. Baffles me how people think he's any good
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