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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 29, 2020 17:22:07 GMT
That is the exact opposite of what I've been saying. Nick Powell could easily win my respect if he shows more bottle and plays through a bit of pain. He's a very talented footballer - but as with Bojan before him just having natural talent isn't enough to make a great player. Since he's got back in the side I've warmed to him more than I did originally - he could well be the missing link between the midfield and attack we've been crying out for. However he needs to be far more aggressive and switched on to go from "ermmm that was pretty" to "I love you and want to have your babies". Its probably my age but if you're talking about a creative midfielder as a fan's favourite I'm thinking Alan Hudson as the benchmark - someone who displayed far more talent with a ball than Nick Powell in an era where your only protection against Actual Bodily Harm (or "tackle" as it used to be known) were your shin pads. You haven't been watching. Powell does exactly what you demand. He's just not turning into Alan Hudson overnight. He never will. No one is. I have been watching - and if anyone was at the Swansea game and didn't want to scream he's behind you on a couple of occasions or groan when he ducked out of that 2 on 1 situation their rose tinted glasses must have been fogged up by the cold. He's won me over a bit but he reminds me too much of one of those thoroughbred race horses that will win every race where everything is in full working order but only a tweak away from being as much use as a can of Pedigree Chum. What actually gets me is that Stoke players are either the best thing since sliced bread or irredeemably wank. There's no nuance. And anyone who doesn't blindly follow the latest bandwagon is a heretic, Where's that stake again?
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jan 29, 2020 17:37:47 GMT
Reminds me a bit of Neil McKenzie, great player but injuries will probably keep him from playing at a higher level.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 29, 2020 17:39:41 GMT
You haven't been watching. Powell does exactly what you demand. He's just not turning into Alan Hudson overnight. He never will. No one is. I have been watching - and if anyone was at the Swansea game and didn't want to scream he's behind you on a couple of occasions or groan when he ducked out of that 2 on 1 situation their rose tinted glasses must have been fogged up by the cold. He's won me over a bit but he reminds me too much of one of those thoroughbred race horses that will win every race where everything is in full working order but only a tweak away from being as much use as a can of Pedigree Chum. What actually gets me is that Stoke players are either the best thing since sliced bread or irredeemably wank. There's no nuance. And anyone who doesn't blindly follow the latest bandwagon is a heretic, Where's that stake again? You are watching a completely different game to me. He's a class act, comfortable on the ball, he seems to play at his own pace, the sign of a quality player. Since he came in, he always seems to open up the play with a clever pass that is often the pass just before the assist, see his touch on Saturday that set Allen free to lay it off to Clucas. Top top player especially at this level. And as for hard work, he's been running all over the place and closing down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 18:48:39 GMT
What actually gets me is that Stoke players are either the best thing since sliced bread or irredeemably wank. There's no nuance. And anyone who doesn't blindly follow the latest bandwagon is a heretic, Where's that stake again? You might want to look yourself in the mirror, because, for you, either he has to be Hudson, to be considered a proper hero, or he has to show more bottle. There seems no other "nuance".
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Post by bertiestan on Jan 29, 2020 19:45:23 GMT
Reminds me a bit of Neil McKenzie, great player but injuries will probably keep him from playing at a higher level. He’s far better😂
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Post by torgaustokie on Jan 29, 2020 22:51:49 GMT
Nick Powell would be a player that Tony Waddington would have signed a proper old fashioned Inside Forward who can create and score, love players like this, they play with there vision movement and play with there head up seeing the next move and making it happen with natural ease
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Post by sensiblestokie on Jan 30, 2020 2:07:50 GMT
Seems a bit of a strange thread tbh.
‘Can Powell become a fan favourite?’
Well, if he plays well and stays fit he will. If he doesn’t then he won’t. I’m not sure what you were trying to get from this. Seems pretty black and white. 😂
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Post by spoton on Jan 31, 2020 21:21:28 GMT
What a complete pile of shit this player is, if you cannot see this then you cannot know what a good player is, the only thing he's good act is acting what a total forgery
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 31, 2020 21:24:16 GMT
What a complete pile of shit this player is, if you cannot see this then you cannot know what a good player is, the only thing he's good act is acting what a total forgery Nah, you're wrong.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 31, 2020 21:25:57 GMT
What a complete pile of shit this player is, if you cannot see this then you cannot know what a good player is, the only thing he's good act is acting what a total forgery Lol
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Post by spoton on Jan 31, 2020 21:27:11 GMT
Am i ive seen enough football players over the years to tell you hes crap
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 31, 2020 21:33:41 GMT
Am i ive seen enough football players over the years to tell you hes crap Not very many then!
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Post by crowey on Jan 31, 2020 21:34:36 GMT
.... no
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:34:56 GMT
Two games running hes been absolutely garbage.
And apathetic and lethargic in the process.
Unbelievably frustrating.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 31, 2020 21:35:50 GMT
Powell has a huge problem in as much as he moves quite languidly and provides deft touches. On a night like tonight it just looks like he doesn’t give a shit. In a winning side it’d be called swagger and confidence.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 31, 2020 21:36:50 GMT
Two games running hes been absolutely garbage. And apathetic and lethargic in the process. Unbelievably frustrating. Powell was good against Swansea, exquisite touch to set up Allen for the goal, lovely run for the outball for the second. Found space centrally all game. Bad display tonight, not disagreeing there.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 31, 2020 21:37:15 GMT
Am i ive seen enough football players over the years to tell you hes crap Yes, yes you are wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:39:14 GMT
Two games running hes been absolutely garbage. And apathetic and lethargic in the process. Unbelievably frustrating. Powell was good against Swansea, exquisite touch to set up Allen for the goal, lovely run for the outball for the second. Found space centrally all game. Bad display tonight, not disagreeing there. He passed to Allen. Allen then set up the goal. First half he was garbage. Second half marginally better than garbage.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 31, 2020 21:40:10 GMT
Powell was good against Swansea, exquisite touch to set up Allen for the goal, lovely run for the outball for the second. Found space centrally all game. Bad display tonight, not disagreeing there. He passed to Allen. Allen then set up the goal. First half he was garbage. Second half marginally better than garbage. It was a bit more than “a pass”, it was a lovely flick round the corner with a backheel completely taking his man out of the game and giving Allen yards of space. But ok. The kind of deft touch and creativity we’ve not shown in years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:44:44 GMT
He passed to Allen. Allen then set up the goal. First half he was garbage. Second half marginally better than garbage. It was a bit more than “a pass”, it was a lovely flick round the corner with a backheel completely taking his man out of the game and giving Allen yards of space. But ok. The kind of deft touch and creativity we’ve not shown in years. And his first half? And everything else for his second half? If all you can pick out is one fancy flick, it says it all.
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Post by stoke60 on Jan 31, 2020 21:44:56 GMT
Absolute shit tonight,
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 31, 2020 21:48:50 GMT
It was a bit more than “a pass”, it was a lovely flick round the corner with a backheel completely taking his man out of the game and giving Allen yards of space. But ok. The kind of deft touch and creativity we’ve not shown in years. And his first half? And everything else for his second half? If all you can pick out is one fancy flick, it says it all. Literally pointed out two other factors two posts ago. His run for the second goal and his general movement into pockets of space allowing us to feed it wide.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 31, 2020 21:50:56 GMT
If stoning was a national sport Powell would be the best, cos id drop a fucking house on him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:52:03 GMT
It was a bit more than “a pass”, it was a lovely flick round the corner with a backheel completely taking his man out of the game and giving Allen yards of space. But ok. The kind of deft touch and creativity we’ve not shown in years. And his first half? And everything else for his second half? If all you can pick out is one fancy flick, it says it all. 'If all you can say about your creative player is that he created a goal with a quality piece of play...'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:55:23 GMT
Can we please for the love of Christ start allowing our creative players to have a bad game or two?
Powell has been one of, if not the major part of our rejuvenation since New Year, and him playing a bit poorly is absolutely going to happen more often than just tonight. Get used to it.
We do this every bloody year with whichever creative player we have, see Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnie who all had threads of 'he does nothing except create all our goals' in their time at Stoke.
Get used to it, creative footballers are inconsistent, stop fucking whining when they have the odd off game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:58:56 GMT
And his first half? And everything else for his second half? If all you can pick out is one fancy flick, it says it all. 'If all you can say about your creative player is that he created a goal with a quality piece of play...' He didnt create a goal. Allen played an average pass and then Clucas scored a great goal from 20+ yards on his weak foot.
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Post by jarhead on Jan 31, 2020 22:42:31 GMT
Powell is a bigger shit house than Ince and that takes some beating, his play tonight was of a very arrogant big time Charlie who produced fuck ALL!
He was fuckin amateur and weak as piss and so casual!
Not for me, a dreadful Crewe Wanker!
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Post by rambo61 on Jan 31, 2020 22:55:29 GMT
Powell was an embarrasment tonight. I actually thought he was playing wank to get himself subed off!! Personally would have played with 10 men than left the lazy twat on!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 31, 2020 22:56:55 GMT
Powell is a bigger shit house than Ince and that takes some beating, his play tonight was of a very arrogant big time Charlie who produced fuck ALL! He was fuckin amateur and weak as piss and so casual! Not for me, a dreadful Crewe Wanker! Are we saying tonight cancels out his recent good form then, when he’s basically been the difference between us being potent and watchable and Rowettball Mark 2?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 22:59:06 GMT
Powell is a bigger shit house than Ince and that takes some beating, his play tonight was of a very arrogant big time Charlie who produced fuck ALL! He was fuckin amateur and weak as piss and so casual! Not for me, a dreadful Crewe Wanker! Are we saying tonight cancels out his recent good form then, when he’s basically been the difference between us being potent and watchable and Rowettball Mark 2? I'm certainly not saying that. It is the second game running where hes been infuriatingly poor and lazy, though.
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