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Post by ravey123 on Dec 16, 2019 10:22:42 GMT
With the recent (and not too recent) comments on lack of effort from Tom Ince it got me thinking of other players who were obviously very skilful or absolute game changers but rarely bothered to try or could seem disinterested in some games
Kenwyne Jones
Marco Arnautovic (in his early years)
Tom Ince
Gianelli Imbula
Michael Owen
Gifton Noel Williams
Paul Stewart
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Post by elystokie on Dec 16, 2019 10:31:45 GMT
First one that sprung to mind for me was Stefan Thordarsson, had all the ability and none of the attitude, don't think his fucked back helped much to be fair tho.
Another was Petur Marteinsson, probably one of the best players on our books at the time but couldn't get a game, I'd love to know what really went on there.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 16, 2019 10:44:50 GMT
And on the other end of the scale, People who did almost nothing for the club but changed the entire course of Stoke history nevermind a single game .... Step up Souleymane Oularé! Any others?
And finally, those who had no talent, no spirit and no impact ... the folks who contributed less than a pothole (courtesy Cooper67) ..... Kyle Lightbourne springs to mind!
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Post by Absolution on Dec 16, 2019 12:31:14 GMT
The amazing disappearing Sam Bangoura.
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Post by rawli on Dec 16, 2019 12:45:13 GMT
First one that sprung to mind for me was Stefan Thordarsson, had all the ability and none of the attitude, don't think his fucked back helped much to be fair tho. Another was Petur Marteinsson, probably one of the best players on our books at the time but couldn't get a game, I'd love to know what really went on there. I assumed that the board asked Tony why he wasn't playing him, at which point Pulis would rather have played 10 men than use him. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:46:48 GMT
Dave Regis!
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Post by thestatusquo on Dec 16, 2019 12:50:37 GMT
Dean Ashton 😄
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Post by Davef on Dec 16, 2019 12:56:13 GMT
With the recent (and not too recent) comments on lack of effort from Tom Ince it got me thinking of other players who were obviously very skilful or absolute game changers but rarely bothered to try or could seem disinterested in some games Kenwyne Jones Marco Arnautovic (in his early years) Tom Ince Gianelli Imbula Michael Owen Gifton Noel Williams Paul Stewart Have a look at the 2013/14 Season Review video. Much of the good stuff had Arnautovic at the centre of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 13:04:55 GMT
Is it harsh to say Hoekstra, as much as I bloody loved the bloke?
When he was fit, did he influence enough games, that is the question?
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Post by Goonie on Dec 16, 2019 13:06:28 GMT
Eiður Guðjohnsen
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 16, 2019 13:09:46 GMT
To this day I can feel the bile rising in my throat when I hear the name Paul Stewart
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 13:18:26 GMT
To this day I can feel the bile rising in my throat when I hear the name Paul Stewart Remembered fondly for Middlesbrough away alone, great day and great mental...... |
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Post by leicspotter on Dec 16, 2019 13:25:15 GMT
With the recent (and not too recent) comments on lack of effort from Tom Ince it got me thinking of other players who were obviously very skilful or absolute game changers but rarely bothered to try or could seem disinterested in some games Kenwyne Jones Marco Arnautovic (in his early years) Tom Ince Gianelli Imbula Michael Owen Gifton Noel Williams Paul Stewart Bit harsh on Gifton there I think, and Arnie showed what a game changer he could be...I'll give you the others, and there will be plenty more: Marco Gabbiadini? |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 16, 2019 13:40:03 GMT
The Graham Kavanagh thread.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 16, 2019 13:40:16 GMT
Bojan
Flattered only to deceive
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 16, 2019 13:41:04 GMT
Peter Shilton, great for Leicester, could have been better for us, fantastic for Forest.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 16, 2019 13:42:01 GMT
Tuncay, he was a bit hamstrung by the system and manager but I never felt like he knew exactly what he was doing. But he scored some absolutely stunning goals for us and I don't think anyone could say he wasn't skilful.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 16, 2019 13:50:56 GMT
Bojan Flattered only to deceive At least chuck some groundbait down first ffs. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 16, 2019 13:57:58 GMT
Tony Kelly from Wigan.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 16, 2019 14:00:03 GMT
Bojan Flattered only to deceive He has 0.03 fewer goals/assist per 90 mins as club legend Matthew Etherington. But ok. |
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 16, 2019 14:10:30 GMT
Big Dave’s Mamba
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 16, 2019 14:14:17 GMT
Bojan Flattered only to deceive At least chuck some groundbait down first ffs. Sorry ran out of ground bait So just tied the best fly I could and cast |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 16, 2019 14:16:19 GMT
At least chuck some groundbait down first ffs. Sorry ran out of ground bait So just tied the best fly I could and cast If that's the best fly you have I respectfully suggest giving up until you can get hold of better. |
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Post by callas12 on Dec 16, 2019 14:34:57 GMT
Rikhardur Dadason
Marc Goodfellow
Brek Shea
Dean Crowe
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 14:38:28 GMT
This is turning from a "Stoke players who could be game changers but rarely did" thread to a "Name a load of shit random Stoke players" thread.....
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 16, 2019 14:44:04 GMT
This is turning from a "Stoke players who could be game changers but rarely did" thread to a "Name a load of shit random Stoke players" thread..... I'm trying to use Dave Brammer as a benchmark and go from there. A guy who definitely won us a handful of games but then faded into the background all too often. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 15:06:10 GMT
This is turning from a "Stoke players who could be game changers but rarely did" thread to a "Name a load of shit random Stoke players" thread..... I'm trying to use Dave Brammer as a benchmark and go from there. A guy who definitely won us a handful of games but then faded into the background all too often. Yeah he had a few good games amongst a sea of mediocrity did Brammer...... |
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Post by marylandstoke on Dec 16, 2019 16:10:19 GMT
Tuncay, he was a bit hamstrung by the system and manager but I never felt like he knew exactly what he was doing. But he scored some absolutely stunning goals for us and I don't think anyone could say he wasn't skilful. In the words of The Stones ”You make an old man cry” |
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 16, 2019 16:16:22 GMT
Rikhardur Dadason Marc Goodfellow Brek Shea Dean Crowe Brek fucking Shea ? Game changer ? fuck me |
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Post by tpholloway1 on Dec 16, 2019 16:41:18 GMT
What about John Tudor? Amazing debut and then...…????
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