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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 3, 2020 21:15:58 GMT
I’ll drive him there if we get 15mil for him. Let him go cup his ears there
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 3, 2020 21:17:00 GMT
We'd be crazy to go lower than ten million when Preston quote that for the likes of Ben Pearson.
Allen is showing signs of getting back to his best under O'Neill after being awful under Rowett and Jones.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2020 21:18:46 GMT
For all his faults we’d be daft to sell him now. He's been playing very well recently - but, even so, could we really turn down £10m in our position - and dump £40-50k-a-week in salary into the bargain? It's becoming increasingly clear he's the only asset we've got who could give us that kind of room to maneuver - and presumably that kind of cash would buy us enough wiggle room to invest in a decent replacement in that position of MON's choosing?
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 21:20:50 GMT
I say keep him. Any of his position fillers spring to mind? Duffeye
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 3, 2020 21:23:51 GMT
We'd be crazy to go lower than ten million when Preston quote that for the likes of Ben Pearson. Allen is showing signs of getting back to his best under O'Neill after being awful under Rowett and Jones. Scholes will negotiate a mind blowing deal of £4m plus add on's should West ham win the World Cup for us again, or a loan deal until the end of the season we pay half his wage
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 3, 2020 21:25:24 GMT
For all his faults we’d be daft to sell him now. Do we really have a choice? I think we'll be mad to turn down £15M if true!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2020 21:26:05 GMT
For all his faults we’d be daft to sell him now. He's been playing very well recently - but, even so, could we really turn down £10m in our position - and dump £40-50k-a-week in salary into the bargain? It's becoming increasingly clear he's the only asset we've got who could give us that kind of room to maneuver - and presumably that kind of cash would buy us enough wiggle room to invest in a decent replacement in that position of MON's choosing? Depends on the answer to two questions Grapey: 1) What’s the best midfield three we’ve currently got available to us without him, Etebo and Badou. 2) Is someone at least as good available now and does the manager/the scouting team have the contacts to winkle them out...
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Post by themistocles on Jan 3, 2020 21:31:32 GMT
Shall we delay the Etebo deal before this situation plays itself out...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2020 21:33:52 GMT
Shall we delay the Etebo deal before this situation plays itself out... The cost of relegation is greater.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2020 21:36:40 GMT
He's been playing very well recently - but, even so, could we really turn down £10m in our position - and dump £40-50k-a-week in salary into the bargain? It's becoming increasingly clear he's the only asset we've got who could give us that kind of room to maneuver - and presumably that kind of cash would buy us enough wiggle room to invest in a decent replacement in that position of MON's choosing? Depends on the answer to two questions Grapey: 1) What’s the best midfield three we’ve currently got available to us without him, Etebo and Badou. 2) Is someone at least as good available now and does the manager/the scouting team have the contacts to winkle them out... Yeah - it's not a great pool without those three - but we've effectively been playing without Badou and Etebo for 2 months anyway. 3 from Woods, Cousins, Clucas and Powell? Obviously the big money days are over - but we'd just have to hope MON could source a loanee or a £1-2m man to do the job. In that Q&A earlier in the week, it was Spinksy's view that the kind of figures being rumoured would prove unturndownable? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-badou-live-3691635MS: The answer has to be a yes to that one Mark. Given Stoke’s current predicament, they can’t possibly turn down that kind of figure unless there was suddenly an auction for his services. He would be a sad loss, to some more than others. In midfield, if Allen and Etebo joined Ndiaye through the door he would have to act., otherwise he’ll probably leave well alone there.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 3, 2020 21:38:07 GMT
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Post by adamsson on Jan 3, 2020 21:38:25 GMT
Shall we delay the Etebo deal before this situation plays itself out... The cost of relegation is greater. But Etebo is better than Allen and we wouldn't get £15 million for Etebo.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2020 21:40:18 GMT
The cost of relegation is greater. But Etebo is better than Allen and we wouldn't get £15 million for Etebo. I quoted the wrong post - I meant to reply to Rob W.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 3, 2020 21:40:43 GMT
I’ll drive him there if we get 15mil for him. Let him go cup his ears there You could drop butter fingers Butland off at Villa on the way
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2020 21:41:21 GMT
Depends on the answer to two questions Grapey: 1) What’s the best midfield three we’ve currently got available to us without him, Etebo and Badou. 2) Is someone at least as good available now and does the manager/the scouting team have the contacts to winkle them out... Yeah - it's not a great pool without those three - but we've effectively been playing without Badou and Etebo for 2 months anyway. 3 from Woods, Cousins, Clucas and Powell? Obviously the big money days are over - but we'd just have to hope MON could source a loanee or a £1-2m man to do the job. In that Q&A earlier in the week, it was Spinksy's view that the kind of figures being rumoured would prove unturndownable? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-badou-live-3691635MS: The answer has to be a yes to that one Mark. Given Stoke’s current predicament, they can’t possibly turn down that kind of figure unless there was suddenly an auction for his services. He would be a sad loss, to some more than others. In midfield, if Allen and Etebo joined Ndiaye through the door he would have to act., otherwise he’ll probably leave well alone there. It's an enormous gamble to take at a time when things are picking up, isn't it?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 3, 2020 21:45:43 GMT
Said all along he will be very badly missed if he goes , and if as billionaires we are forced to sell him for money reasons and risk division one , it’s the ultimate example of the utter incompetence of the chief executive paid so handsomely to run the club
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 21:48:13 GMT
All those people who think he’s crap and want him to leave, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me who you’d play in his place? I’m fascinated to know Etebo Ndiaye Clucas Woods Powell Duffy I know the last two aren’t strictly centre midfielders but I would have dropped Allen for a 4-2-3-1 much sooner than we went to it. The top 2 have left. Clucas already plays. Powell plays a different position. Duffy?? Good lord. Which leaves Woods. And if you think Woods is better than Allen, then we just disagree.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2020 21:57:13 GMT
Yeah - it's not a great pool without those three - but we've effectively been playing without Badou and Etebo for 2 months anyway. 3 from Woods, Cousins, Clucas and Powell? Obviously the big money days are over - but we'd just have to hope MON could source a loanee or a £1-2m man to do the job. In that Q&A earlier in the week, it was Spinksy's view that the kind of figures being rumoured would prove unturndownable? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-badou-live-3691635MS: The answer has to be a yes to that one Mark. Given Stoke’s current predicament, they can’t possibly turn down that kind of figure unless there was suddenly an auction for his services. He would be a sad loss, to some more than others. In midfield, if Allen and Etebo joined Ndiaye through the door he would have to act., otherwise he’ll probably leave well alone there. It's an enormous gamble to take at a time when things are picking up, isn't it? It's not ideal - but when it came down to it, I think we'd have to do it. Allen would probably be really pushing for it to happen too with his 30th birthday approaching, which would maybe be a consideration because there's no guarantee the same interst would be there in the summer if Moyes is forced to go elsewhere this month
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Joe Allen
Jan 3, 2020 21:59:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 21:59:33 GMT
It'll be something like....
Out. Allen 10-15M Badou loan Etebo loan
In. Thompson (Blackpool) <1M Brunt (WBA) loan
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Joe Allen
Jan 3, 2020 22:06:51 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 3, 2020 22:06:51 GMT
It'll be something like.... Out. Allen 10-15M Badou loan Etebo loan In. Thompson (Blackpool) <1M Brunt (WBA) loan Wouldn't be surprised at that and add Verlinden too but I would want a couple more .
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Joe Allen
Jan 3, 2020 22:13:04 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 3, 2020 22:13:04 GMT
If West Ham do buy him then maybe we could ask them for a youngster on loan to soften the blow
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2020 22:14:07 GMT
It's an enormous gamble to take at a time when things are picking up, isn't it? It's not ideal - but when it came down to it, I think we'd have to do it. Allen would probably be really pushing for it to happen too with his 30th birthday approaching, which would maybe be a consideration because there's no guarantee the same interst would be there in the summer if Moyes is forced to go elsewhere this month Do you think a midfield of Woods, Cousins, Clucas is good enough to stay up, Grapey? Or two of the three with Powell if he stays fit?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 3, 2020 22:23:38 GMT
It's not ideal - but when it came down to it, I think we'd have to do it. Allen would probably be really pushing for it to happen too with his 30th birthday approaching, which would maybe be a consideration because there's no guarantee the same interst would be there in the summer if Moyes is forced to go elsewhere this month Do you think a midfield of Woods, Cousins, Clucas is good enough to stay up, Grapey? Or two of the three with Powell if he stays fit? Truthfully, I don't know, Rob. My opinion on the capabilities of individuals, and the team, have been going up and down like a yoyo. Can Powell and Vokes, for example, repeat their performances regularly? I'd like to think we'd have enough, especially if the midfield addition (and there'd have to be one) was decent.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2020 22:27:12 GMT
If their opener is 15 we should be asking 20, its mental money for him imo but they have loved to spend recently.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2020 22:29:25 GMT
It's not ideal - but when it came down to it, I think we'd have to do it. Allen would probably be really pushing for it to happen too with his 30th birthday approaching, which would maybe be a consideration because there's no guarantee the same interst would be there in the summer if Moyes is forced to go elsewhere this month Do you think a midfield of Woods, Cousins, Clucas is good enough to stay up, Grapey? Or two of the three with Powell if he stays fit? Woods can't be anywhere near it, we've looked so much better without him.
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Joe Allen
Jan 3, 2020 22:33:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 22:33:36 GMT
I know it means nowt to us, but where does he fit in in their midfield?
They have Rice and Noble in central midfield.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 22:37:04 GMT
I know it means nowt to us, but where does he fit in in their midfield? They have Rice and Noble in central midfield. And they’ve bid for a Benfica midfielder today too. Hopefully the Allen rumours are just that. Rumours.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 22:41:19 GMT
I know it means nowt to us, but where does he fit in in their midfield? They have Rice and Noble in central midfield. And they’ve bid for a Benfica midfielder today too. Hopefully the Allen rumours are just that. Rumours. I agree, in that I hope he stays. Never understood the over the top criticism he gets on here. Especially the nutcases who claim he's a main reason for our relegation from the premier league.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 3, 2020 22:43:05 GMT
For all his faults we’d be daft to sell him now. He's performing like his ability should allow him to. He, like a lot of other players, seems to work well in a system that suits him. Right now, where we are, there are a few we need keep, all capable of seeing us safe this season.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 3, 2020 22:54:16 GMT
Now if we were to sell Allen for 12 - 15 million and manage to bring in Amartey in loan. That would be something!
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