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Post by ibby on Dec 20, 2019 14:18:07 GMT
The club have taken a big risk on him.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 20, 2019 14:57:30 GMT
The club have taken a big risk on him. No they haven't. They took a massive risk in sacking the unlikeable but effective Rowett and employing the likeable but inexperienced Jones. O'Neil is an experienced manager with something to prove dealing with a complete train wreck of a situation not of his making. O'Neil is way better than anything we could have hoped for in our circumstances and will pull us round - either this season in the Championship or next season in League 1. The football will be wretched at times and the stench of urine on here will be unbearable - but to me O'Neil looks like he knows what he's doing. The fact that the usual suspects are already on his case just makes me more confident he'll do a job here.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2019 15:49:49 GMT
And how exactly is that oneils fault? Hes been here 5 minutes and hasn't signed a single player in the squad. We are shit. The league is shit. We wouldn't have beat the teams we've beat had no change been made so o'Neil is doing something right. Hogan is toss. Vokes was slightly less toss than him. Diouf can barely control his own feet and Gregory is andy Cooke reincarnated. You just clutch at straws with that lot and hope something works for a few seconds enough to get us a goal. You couldn't make a decent forward out of any of them if you put all of their best attributes into 1 player. All these threads are pointless. Any misgivings about our current predicament should be pointed wholly at the players and the board. You seem to prefer singling out the manager who is tasked with making a silk purse from a pig's ear. Let's hope january brings about a mass clear out. If I never see vokes, campbell, gregory and Hogan again I will be delighted. What you’re essentially saying is that anything we achieve will be to the manager’s credit and nothing whatsoever that goes wrong will be on him. It doesn’t work like that. We all said this about Jones last season as well. We are shit, absolutely, but since he’s come in the manager has made some very odd decisions that haven’t helped things massively. Best of luck to him, I hope he pulls us out of it. He shouldn’t be above criticism himself either though. Yet hes managed to pick up some results that have got us to within touching distance of safety. I've seen your comments on the Joe Allen thread and you are seemingly prepared to accept a whole host of assumptions to suit your point yet you wont accept o'Neil himself saying etebo is training badly whilst others arent honest enough to be included or are paid too much to be included. If he keeps picking up results he can keep making strange decisions.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 20, 2019 15:52:53 GMT
What you’re essentially saying is that anything we achieve will be to the manager’s credit and nothing whatsoever that goes wrong will be on him. It doesn’t work like that. We all said this about Jones last season as well. We are shit, absolutely, but since he’s come in the manager has made some very odd decisions that haven’t helped things massively. Best of luck to him, I hope he pulls us out of it. He shouldn’t be above criticism himself either though. Yet hes managed to pick up some results that have got us to within touching distance of safety. I've seen your comments on the Joe Allen thread and you are seemingly prepared to accept a whole host of assumptions to suit your point yet you wont accept o'Neil himself saying etebo is training badly whilst others arent honest enough to be included or are paid too much to be included. If he keeps picking up results he can keep making strange decisions. I’ve never not accepted those being the reasons Dave, I’ve just said those reasons are stupid.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2019 17:17:09 GMT
Yet hes managed to pick up some results that have got us to within touching distance of safety. I've seen your comments on the Joe Allen thread and you are seemingly prepared to accept a whole host of assumptions to suit your point yet you wont accept o'Neil himself saying etebo is training badly whilst others arent honest enough to be included or are paid too much to be included. If he keeps picking up results he can keep making strange decisions. I’ve never not accepted those being the reasons Dave, I’ve just said those reasons are stupid. A manager trying to kill resentment among the squad and foster so kind of spirit, togetherness and willingness to work hard for each other doesn't seem stupid to me. Each to their own I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 17:18:32 GMT
Probably, but we were exceptional. We didn't touch the ball for the 1st 30 minutes lol Well we scored on the 15th so we definitely touched it at least once...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 20, 2019 17:31:00 GMT
I’ve never not accepted those being the reasons Dave, I’ve just said those reasons are stupid. A manager trying to kill resentment among the squad and foster so kind of spirit, togetherness and willingness to work hard for each other doesn't seem stupid to me. Each to their own I guess. Trying to kill resentment by bringing back Ryan Woods, who’s trained so well he’d made one of the previous ten match day squads, is an interesting way of doing that. This idea that Etebo is a problem has come from nowhere hasn’t it? Never once stated by any previous manager and not stated by this one either.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 20, 2019 18:02:14 GMT
A manager trying to kill resentment among the squad and foster so kind of spirit, togetherness and willingness to work hard for each other doesn't seem stupid to me. Each to their own I guess. Trying to kill resentment by bringing back Ryan Woods, who’s trained so well he’d made one of the previous ten match day squads, is an interesting way of doing that. This idea that Etebo is a problem has come from nowhere hasn’t it? Never once stated by any previous manager and not stated by this one either. I wasn't referring to any player specifically. Bringing back exiled players signals giving everyone a chance and fostering a new spirit as does outing those who dont want to be here. The player didn't perform and is out of the team again. I see a manager doing everything he can to secure results and make us competitive. I genuinely dont care who he leaves out.
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 20, 2019 18:15:04 GMT
Statistically, hasn't he been our best manager for a while? Definitely better than Jones anyway.
He's done alright so far, but he'd do better if he played two up front with the team pressing up closer to them.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 20, 2019 18:15:05 GMT
The club have taken a big risk on him. Who wouldn't have been a risk?
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 20, 2019 18:46:51 GMT
Don't care about the quality of football at this stage just stay up.
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Post by adamsson on Dec 20, 2019 21:39:25 GMT
I think we can now say that the answer is yes MON is another poor appointment.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 20, 2019 21:59:35 GMT
Rowett 4-3-3 didn't work, Jones when he shit it 4-3-3 and it again didn't work, MON I know what I'm going to ridgidly stick to 4-3-3 regardless of the evidence, third times a charm.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 20, 2019 22:00:37 GMT
Completely out managed second half by Jonathan Woodgate
Just think about that for a minute.
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Post by march4 on Dec 20, 2019 22:02:06 GMT
How many games has O’Neill been in charge and that is twice that he has been unable to get the basics right for a substitution.
If he is so incompetent on something so simple, goodness knows what a mess he is making of everything else.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Dec 20, 2019 22:03:15 GMT
MON just hasn't got it in him.
We needed a manager who could hit the ground running, but hes like a rabbit in the headlights.
They were a pathetic team, in pathetic form, with their fans right on their back. We did fuck all to put them away. And then conspired to let them win when we got our noses in front.
Pathetic from players and manager.
Fucking embarrassing.
The manager hasn't got a scooby.
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Post by march4 on Dec 20, 2019 22:03:33 GMT
Completely out managed second half by Jonathan Woodgate Just think about that for a minute. He needs to go mate. The happy clappers will say it is too soon, but it is obvious already that he doesn’t have what it takes.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 20, 2019 22:59:30 GMT
Not looking good is it chaps ! I suppose it was expected sadly a part time manager who isn't proven in English football struggling oh well no surprise was it our chairman tends to back losers sadly.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 20, 2019 23:42:08 GMT
Completely out managed second half by Jonathan Woodgate Just think about that for a minute. Harris Mowbray McCann Schooled him too he’s learning the league, utterly out of his depth , why anyone would expect any different is bizarre but he’s accepted the process the exclusion of the best players and the status quo of the ceo while any proven manager and one in particular would not , he won’t see out the season
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 21, 2019 12:49:19 GMT
Completely out managed second half by Jonathan Woodgate Just think about that for a minute. Harris Mowbray McCann Schooled him too he’s learning the league, utterly out of his depth , why anyone would expect any different is bizarre but he’s accepted the process the exclusion of the best players and the status quo of the ceo while any proven manager and one in particular would not , he won’t see out the season He's not got the experience in English Football, he's not a progressive manager another ridiculous appointment simple as that, why anyone thought this would turn out any different than it has God in only knows, it was as plain as the nose on Stephen Wards face we needed a manager who had all the relevant tools to get us out of this mess, the board are to blame the buck stops with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 18:01:17 GMT
Well time to give this an airing again, Good idea.
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Post by Macko on Jan 1, 2020 18:15:27 GMT
Completely out managed second half by Jonathan Woodgate Just think about that for a minute. Harris Mowbray McCann Schooled him too he’s learning the league, utterly out of his depth , why anyone would expect any different is bizarre but he’s accepted the process the exclusion of the best players and the status quo of the ceo while any proven manager and one in particular would not , he won’t see out the season Don't you feel a right dick right now? You and the likes of Bayern and March4 need to bugger off from our club, you are toxic poisions we need to see the back off, the club rebuild has started and negative twats like you need to leave the train, we're moving on.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 1, 2020 18:18:28 GMT
Harris Mowbray McCann Schooled him too he’s learning the league, utterly out of his depth , why anyone would expect any different is bizarre but he’s accepted the process the exclusion of the best players and the status quo of the ceo while any proven manager and one in particular would not , he won’t see out the season Don't you feel a right dick right now? You and the likes of Bayern and March4 need to bugger off from our club, you are toxic poisions we need to see the back off, the club rebuild has started and negative twats like you need to leave the train, we're moving on. Happy new years shame Santa didn’t bring you a new vocabulary for your limited abusive little posts but jerk in happily 😁
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 1, 2020 18:20:21 GMT
Completely out managed second half by Jonathan Woodgate Just think about that for a minute. I’ve thought about it, are you talking about that bloke whose team are storming up the table?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 1, 2020 18:23:07 GMT
Don't you feel a right dick right now? You and the likes of Bayern and March4 need to bugger off from our club, you are toxic poisions we need to see the back off, the club rebuild has started and negative twats like you need to leave the train, we're moving on. Happy new years shame Santa didn’t bring you a new vocabulary for your limited abusive little posts but jerk in happily 😁 No one can match your vocabulary. Or the use of it in sentences.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 1, 2020 18:23:21 GMT
Completely out managed second half by Jonathan Woodgate Just think about that for a minute. I’ve thought about it, are you talking about that bloke whose team are storming up the table? So what?
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 1, 2020 18:27:38 GMT
I’ve thought about it, are you talking about that bloke whose team are storming up the table? So what?
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Post by colnepotter on Jan 1, 2020 18:30:02 GMT
Harris Mowbray McCann Schooled him too he’s learning the league, utterly out of his depth , why anyone would expect any different is bizarre but he’s accepted the process the exclusion of the best players and the status quo of the ceo while any proven manager and one in particular would not , he won’t see out the season Don't you feel a right dick right now? You and the likes of Bayern and March4 need to bugger off from our club, you are toxic poisions we need to see the back off, the club rebuild has started and negative twats like you need to leave the train, we're moving on. Well said. Our club would be much better off without these toe rags.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 18:30:09 GMT
I think week by week we can see more and more what a joke Nathan Jones was
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 1, 2020 18:32:04 GMT
Don't you feel a right dick right now? You and the likes of Bayern and March4 need to bugger off from our club, you are toxic poisions we need to see the back off, the club rebuild has started and negative twats like you need to leave the train, we're moving on. Happy new years shame Santa didn’t bring you a new vocabulary for your limited abusive little posts but jerk in happily 😁 Oh the irony...
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