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Post by thevoid on Dec 7, 2019 23:14:05 GMT
Stoke have not even been mentioned on the last two weeks on Quest after the highlights were shown. They talk about the opposition, not a scooby about us. Is Colin a bit embarrassed that his idol is being exposed as a charlatan?
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Post by bloodtypered on Dec 7, 2019 23:18:25 GMT
It took 8 games to get NI winning
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 7, 2019 23:19:39 GMT
Stoke have not even been mentioned on the last two weeks on Quest after the highlights were shown. They talk about the opposition, not a scooby about us. Is Colin a bit embarrassed that his idol is being exposed as a charlatan? Hes taken on a bag of shite and none of these wankers are his. I suspect he didnt realise how rotten the fucking club is and lets hope he can bring in some players with fire in their belly. And also whats happening with the academy. Nobody coming through??
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 7, 2019 23:19:55 GMT
Honestly what did anyone expect Brechin City and Shamrock rovers are hai previous clubs history shows international football management and club are totally different
Coleman wales and Sunderland Southgate Middlesb and England
Just two who did well at one and appallingly at the other both ending in relegation it’s the recruitment of appalling judgment or vested self interest
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Post by mrred on Dec 7, 2019 23:20:28 GMT
A charlatan? Fuck me... he's walked into 4 years of degradation and he's a charlatan because he's not able to immediately stop the rot? Come on mate, you're better than this.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 7, 2019 23:21:17 GMT
Stoke have not even been mentioned on the last two weeks on Quest after the highlights were shown. They talk about the opposition, not a scooby about us. Is Colin a bit embarrassed that his idol is being exposed as a charlatan? Charlatan? Wow
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Post by Billybigbollox on Dec 7, 2019 23:23:22 GMT
Stoke have not even been mentioned on the last two weeks on Quest after the highlights were shown. They talk about the opposition, not a scooby about us. Is Colin a bit embarrassed that his idol is being exposed as a charlatan? To be fair it can’t be easy for any fucker coming in to manage this bunch of wankers, They really are a load of shite. There are only about 3 decent players among them. The rest are just not good enough. With this lot we will struggle in Div 1, which is where we are unfortunately heading if O’Neill can’t turn things around.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 7, 2019 23:23:43 GMT
A charlatan? Fuck me... he's walked into 4 years of degradation and he's a charlatan because he's not able to immediately stop the rot? Come on mate, you're better than this. A cloned version of Einstein, Hawkins, Guardiola, Pulis and Jose Mourinho all in one being couldn't sort this mess out. The change has to come upstairs first.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 7, 2019 23:29:00 GMT
Charlatan or not he doesn't seem to want to talk about us all of a sudden. I thought our position in this division would be worth some kind of acknowledgement.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 23:44:25 GMT
Stoke have not even been mentioned on the last two weeks on Quest after the highlights were shown. They talk about the opposition, not a scooby about us. Is Colin a bit embarrassed that his idol is being exposed as a charlatan? Hes taken on a bag of shite and none of these wankers are his. I suspect he didnt realise how rotten the fucking club is and lets hope he can bring in some players with fire in their belly. And also whats happening with the academy. Nobody coming through?? Plenty are coming through. But thats the exact point where they all stop, never to heard from again.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 7, 2019 23:48:37 GMT
Stoke have not even been mentioned on the last two weeks on Quest after the highlights were shown. They talk about the opposition, not a scooby about us. Is Colin a bit embarrassed that his idol is being exposed as a charlatan? Im massively frustrated and angry atm but he's only just through the door, charlatan really?? A bit much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 0:04:54 GMT
To be fair to The Void.
You can be ten thousand miles away and recognise that Badou and Etebo should be starting for us, and that Tom Ince shouldn't be starting, Stephen Ward is fucking wank and Sam Vokes is a massive cart horse.
You don't have to walk through any doors in our building to know this.
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Post by BuzzB on Dec 8, 2019 0:16:33 GMT
To be fair to The Void. You can be ten thousand miles away and recognise that Badou and Etebo should be starting for us, and that Tom Ince shouldn't be starting, Stephen Ward is fucking wank and Sam Vokes is a massive cart horse. You don't have to walk through any doors in our building to know this. In his interview with Nige he said they had nobody else other than Ince and McClean to play the wide roles, in other words he is determined to stick with his 4-3-3. In fairness he also said he needs to change the centre midfield, so maybe Woods and Allen will go, Etebo and Badou back? We will see on Tuesday. Drastic times and all that now............
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 0:18:45 GMT
To be fair to The Void. You can be ten thousand miles away and recognise that Badou and Etebo should be starting for us, and that Tom Ince shouldn't be starting, Stephen Ward is fucking wank and Sam Vokes is a massive cart horse. You don't have to walk through any doors in our building to know this. In his interview with Nige he said they had nobody else other than Ince and McClean to play the wide roles, in other words he is determined to stick with his 4-3-3. In fairness he also said he needs to change the centre midfield, so maybe Woods and Allen will go, Etebo and Badou back? We will see on Tuesday. Drastic times and all that now............ Diouf would do a better job than Ince wide right.
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Post by telfordstokie on Dec 8, 2019 7:16:57 GMT
Don’t agree with some of MON’s team selections and he shouldn’t be exempt from criticism but whoever he picks, it is very very hard for anyone to get a tune out of this awful squad - that’s been proven by the different managers before him that have tried and failed over the last few years (I know they’ve added to the problems with shite signings).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 7:23:05 GMT
He's no more or less of a charlatan than the previous three managers.
Lambert and Rowett inherited an almighty mess from Hughes and in Rowetts case, he amplified it to the tune of 50M+.
Jones inherited the mess of Hughes, Lambert and Rowett and amplified it to the power of a diamond.
In truth neither are bad managers despite their records here. They were just both ill suited to the task at the time.
Now onto O'Neill, who has inherited the mess of the last four managers. It's nowhere near his fault that we're where we are. Absolutely nowhere near. However, he has been brought in to do a job and is handsomely paid for it.
Is he doing the absolute best he can?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 7:54:57 GMT
Honestly what did anyone expect Brechin City and Shamrock rovers are hai previous clubs history shows international football management and club are totally different Coleman wales and Sunderland Southgate Middlesb and England Just two who did well at one and appallingly at the other both ending in relegation it’s the recruitment of appalling judgment or vested self interest Again you make no sense. O'Neill has a fantastic record at international AND club football albeit at a low level
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Post by zerps on Dec 8, 2019 8:15:36 GMT
A charlatan? Fuck me... he's walked into 4 years of degradation and he's a charlatan because he's not able to immediately stop the rot? Come on mate, you're better than this. Is he fuck. Some of our “fans” are charlatans. All they want is to sack managers and pine for tp.
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Post by lancer on Dec 8, 2019 8:59:18 GMT
The man can only work with the tools he has in his box, and the tools he has now are not the tools he needs. SCFC at the moment have to many players that wear the shirt, but are not Stoke players. They are not mercenaries because mercenaries are willing to fight for their pay, they are journeymen, picking up a good wage for minimum output.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 8, 2019 9:03:44 GMT
Honestly what did anyone expect Brechin City and Shamrock rovers are hai previous clubs history shows international football management and club are totally different Coleman wales and Sunderland Southgate Middlesb and England Just two who did well at one and appallingly at the other both ending in relegation it’s the recruitment of appalling judgment or vested self interest Again you make no sense. O'Neill has a fantastic record at international AND club football albeit at a low level O’Neil has no record of any sort any level in England literally zero , and got the job of sorting out England’s biggest scale crisis club there’s not a business in the world that would do that especially when candidates with relevant experience were available , for his brilliant club record at Brechin city and Shamrock Rovers well done michael move on the next level at vale or crewe and come back when its done . As I said other have priced international management is a different game , great club managers have failed there but more importantly good international records have bern exposed at club level its a nightmare appointment by a process which had failed , failed and failed again and to expect anything different is deluded . The fact he then chooses to ignore his best two midfielders says he either hadn’t watched the Fulham video or has no understanding of the physicality required at this level . He seems a decent bloke and the past nor the process or the despicable that runs it are his fault but he simply wasn’t the right choice and it’s been exposed game , after game after game , he learns fast or he’ll be gone because the one with vested interest that appointed him will not allow the focus to fall on them .
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Post by shipshape on Dec 8, 2019 9:07:35 GMT
Again you make no sense. O'Neill has a fantastic record at international AND club football albeit at a low level O’Neil has no record of any sort any level in England literally zero , and got the job of sorting out England’s biggest scale crisis club there’s not a business in the world that would do that especially when candidates with relevant experience were available , for his brilliant club record at Brechin city and Shamrock Rovers well done michael move on the next level at vale or crewe and come back when its done . As I said other have priced international management is a different game , great club managers have failed there but more importantly good international records have bern exposed at club level its a nightmare appointment by a process which had failed , failed and failed again and to expect anything different is deluded . The fact he then chooses to ignore his best two midfielders says he either hadn’t watched the Fulham video or has no understanding of the physicality required at this level . He seems a decent bloke and the past nor the process or the despicable that runs it are his fault but he simply wasn’t the right choice and it’s been exposed game , after game after game , he learns fast or he’ll be gone because the one with vested interest that appointed him will not allow the focus to fall on them . Can you start writing your posts in Chinese Mandarin please? I'd have a better chance of understanding them.
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Post by Gods on Dec 8, 2019 9:10:18 GMT
Charlatan or not he doesn't seem to want to talk about us all of a sudden. I thought our position in this division would be worth some kind of acknowledgement. You're right, there is a general lack of interest in our plight in the national media. Not sure if that is because there remains a misguided sense that we will pull away or if we are simply not as much a national story as say Sunderland.
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Post by Goonie on Dec 8, 2019 9:15:17 GMT
My only gripe with O'Neil is persisting with 433 and not playing Badou (I hear Etebo is unfit? Is N'Daiye carrying an injury?)
Other than that it's an abysmal squad despite £60m spent
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Post by questionable on Dec 8, 2019 9:17:13 GMT
A charlatan? Fuck me... he's walked into 4 years of degradation and he's a charlatan because he's not able to immediately stop the rot? Come on mate, you're better than this. Yes there’s years of crap to sort out but he doesn’t help himself with his teams and a small thing about his subs and continuing to get out thought by opposing managers. Getting sick of fans saying, not his team and sorting out other people’s problems, he knew this when he excepted a 3 year contract and a small salary of £30k a week. In what other job can you basically blame what you do on someone else apart from politics
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2019 9:36:17 GMT
To be fair to The Void. You can be ten thousand miles away and recognise that Badou and Etebo should be starting for us, and that Tom Ince shouldn't be starting, Stephen Ward is fucking wank and Sam Vokes is a massive cart horse. You don't have to walk through any doors in our building to know this. In his interview with Nige he said they had nobody else other than Ince and McClean to play the wide roles, in other words he is determined to stick with his 4-3-3. In fairness he also said he needs to change the centre midfield, so maybe Woods and Allen will go, Etebo and Badou back? We will see on Tuesday. Drastic times and all that now............ He also said he didn't have a preferred system when he first took the job.......
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 8, 2019 9:41:22 GMT
Stoke have not even been mentioned on the last two weeks on Quest after the highlights were shown. They talk about the opposition, not a scooby about us. Is Colin a bit embarrassed that his idol is being exposed as a charlatan? Can you not grasp the fact that the players just aren't good enough,you can't make silk from a sows ear.He may of not of realised the magnitude of this job but to call him a cheat is out of order.
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Post by mrred on Dec 8, 2019 9:46:43 GMT
A charlatan? Fuck me... he's walked into 4 years of degradation and he's a charlatan because he's not able to immediately stop the rot? Come on mate, you're better than this. Yes there’s years of crap to sort out but he doesn’t help himself with his teams and a small thing about his subs and continuing to get out thought by opposing managers. Getting sick of fans saying, not his team and sorting out other people’s problems, he knew this when he excepted a 3 year contract and a small salary of £30k a week. In what other job can you basically blame what you do on someone else apart from politics You've just answered your own statement. Only thing I would agree with is the formations and not picking our best players when they arent a luxury we can afford to drop. Just depends on their level of training and commitment I suppose, that's all I can hang my hat on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 9:49:39 GMT
Again you make no sense. O'Neill has a fantastic record at international AND club football albeit at a low level O’Neil has no record of any sort any level in England literally zero , and got the job of sorting out England’s biggest scale crisis club there’s not a business in the world that would do that especially when candidates with relevant experience were available , for his brilliant club record at Brechin city and Shamrock Rovers well done michael move on the next level at vale or crewe and come back when its done . As I said other have priced international management is a different game , great club managers have failed there but more importantly good international records have bern exposed at club level its a nightmare appointment by a process which had failed , failed and failed again and to expect anything different is deluded . The fact he then chooses to ignore his best two midfielders says he either hadn’t watched the Fulham video or has no understanding of the physicality required at this level . He seems a decent bloke and the past nor the process or the despicable that runs it are his fault but he simply wasn’t the right choice and it’s been exposed game , after game after game , he learns fast or he’ll be gone because the one with vested interest that appointed him will not allow the focus to fall on them . You never said English football. Keep moving the goalposts to suit your agenda you loon
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 8, 2019 9:52:36 GMT
O’Neil has no record of any sort any level in England literally zero , and got the job of sorting out England’s biggest scale crisis club there’s not a business in the world that would do that especially when candidates with relevant experience were available , for his brilliant club record at Brechin city and Shamrock Rovers well done michael move on the next level at vale or crewe and come back when its done . As I said other have priced international management is a different game , great club managers have failed there but more importantly good international records have bern exposed at club level its a nightmare appointment by a process which had failed , failed and failed again and to expect anything different is deluded . The fact he then chooses to ignore his best two midfielders says he either hadn’t watched the Fulham video or has no understanding of the physicality required at this level . He seems a decent bloke and the past nor the process or the despicable that runs it are his fault but he simply wasn’t the right choice and it’s been exposed game , after game after game , he learns fast or he’ll be gone because the one with vested interest that appointed him will not allow the focus to fall on them . You never said English football. Keep moving the goalposts to suit your agenda you loon No goal post moving I’ve said since day one he was a poor appointment because he has never managed in this league or English league pyramid at any level it’s utterly ridiculous added to the fact that he’s only part time anyway Which funny enough matches the players commitment yesterday .
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 8, 2019 9:53:49 GMT
To be fair to The Void. You can be ten thousand miles away and recognise that Badou and Etebo should be starting for us, and that Tom Ince shouldn't be starting, Stephen Ward is fucking wank and Sam Vokes is a massive cart horse. You don't have to walk through any doors in our building to know this. In his interview with Nige he said they had nobody else other than Ince and McClean to play the wide roles, in other words he is determined to stick with his 4-3-3. In fairness he also said he needs to change the centre midfield, so maybe Woods and Allen will go, Etebo and Badou back? We will see on Tuesday. Drastic times and all that now............ Allen dropped? I cannot see him dropping the golden boy.
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