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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2019 22:23:33 GMT
According to O’Neill
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 26, 2019 22:26:31 GMT
He’s not wrong, but this is what happens when you have a real lack of creative options in the middle, and slow, aged strikers who can’t chase anything. Even our goals against Barnsley and Wigan weren’t fashioned out of a good moves, two wonderstrikes, a penalty and a corner at Barnsley one was a set piece the other was a long ball and pinball affair v Wiga. If that’s what it takes to keep us up, we should set up that way for pragmatism. Not simply keep possession when we don’t remotely threaten. His NI model suits what we need most, high press up top and a compact and combative midfield. Rarely do they dominate possession but they usually get results.
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Post by rawli on Nov 26, 2019 22:26:38 GMT
Good that he points it out. Too many cowards who would rather play an easy pass than take any responsibility.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 26, 2019 22:27:40 GMT
Encouraging that he’s picked up on it at least. Sadly, the rest of us have had to stomach this turgid shite for three years.
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 26, 2019 22:31:02 GMT
I think that spell at the start of the second half is how he wants us to play, quick passing & one twos. Sadly we have too many players, Gregory,Ince, Woods who take one touch too much. Powell when he came on as well.
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Post by Davef on Nov 26, 2019 22:34:11 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there.
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Post by march4 on Nov 26, 2019 22:35:55 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. |
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Post by wuzza on Nov 26, 2019 22:36:23 GMT
Where is he going to suddenly magic up the pace and skill required to give possession football the purpose it needs at the sharp end?
Hell of a job he’s got on his hands.
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Post by Davef on Nov 26, 2019 22:36:57 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. Hasn't taken you long has it? |
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 26, 2019 22:37:11 GMT
Says exactly what previous managers have said - we've told them what we want them to do but they don't do it. Common theme?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2019 22:39:01 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. FFS March you don’t half embarrass yourself at times🙄 |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 26, 2019 22:39:59 GMT
Where is he going to suddenly magic up the pace and skill required to give possession football the purpose it needs at the sharp end? Hell of a job he’s got on his hands. If he is truly pragmatic about it, he instructs them to not dominate possession like he does his NI squad. We don’t have pace in us, mainly cause all our attacking players are the wrong side 27. He has to change the approach because none of the goals we’ve scored under him have come from possession play. |
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Post by rawli on Nov 26, 2019 22:40:09 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. If he wants crosses into the box he either needs to drop Ince or move him to the left. An inverted winger who is so one footed cannot physically cross the ball. |
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Post by rawli on Nov 26, 2019 22:41:14 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. You boring get. |
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Post by wuzza on Nov 26, 2019 22:44:30 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. If he wants crosses into the box he either needs to drop Ince or move him to the left. An inverted winger who is so one footed cannot physically cross the ball. I think you are absolutely right. Ince is just one of those players who makes a good team look even better. In our situation he is just superfluous to proceedings. However the alternatives just ain’t there. |
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 26, 2019 22:44:40 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. I bet you’ve been itching to type that for three weeks. Ask any of his Northern Ireland players if he’s capable of motivating them. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 26, 2019 22:47:50 GMT
The manager is right, but it will happen time and again with ince as he never takes his man on the outside, he goes backwards.
We also don't have a single full back who can overlap and put the ball in
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Post by backintheday on Nov 26, 2019 23:02:18 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. Ffs give the guy a chance he’s only worked with the players for a maximum of five days over three weeks the positive thing is he knows what’s wrong and needs addressing with comments like that I’m certain you are an expert in motivational speaking at seminars |
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 26, 2019 23:08:29 GMT
He hit the nail on the head no urgency in the play too negative turned down opportunity after opportunity to put it in the box however you need strikers in there. It was like watching a preseason game literally nobody looked in any hurry all game. We are so limited up front it's a doddle to keep us out we are desperate for some real width and pace, some work to do.....
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 26, 2019 23:13:04 GMT
He’s watched the same game as us and seen the same problems:
Tippy tappy sideways crap
Garbage set pieces
No tempo
Poor passing out from the back
Sloppy defending
Question is, what can he do about it that the previous four or five managers couldn’t?
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Post by scfcrmagic on Nov 27, 2019 1:57:27 GMT
He’s watched the same game as us and seen the same problems: Tippy tappy sideways crap Garbage set pieces No tempo Poor passing out from the back Sloppy defending Question is, what can he do about it that the previous four or five managers couldn’t? I hate saying this ..because I was not the biggest Pulis fan .....in fact didn’t much like Pulis ball. But he knew the limitations of the players and he basically trained Or drilled them is a better word, in how to defend properly....he then worked them on set pieces until they could do them in their sleep. ...with one up front we could catch them on the break and lump it Up to the front man ....whose main purpose was to score .....not defend or owt ..so he could save his energy for the odd goal sprint ....defend well, score mainly from set pieces and the odd nicked goal on the break . Not tippy tappy sideways nonsense in front of you own goal ....it’s asking for trouble. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 2:57:56 GMT
Let's get Jonsey back asap. He will have em sorted out in no time at all ...
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Post by rawli on Nov 27, 2019 10:12:31 GMT
But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. Ffs give the guy a chance he’s only worked with the players for a maximum of five days over three weeks the positive thing is he knows what’s wrong and needs addressing with comments like that I’m certain you are an expert in motivational speaking at seminars Give him a chance? You've got to be kidding. He's hankering after the glory days of bonus games and not getting beaten too heavily away. If Tony was in place he'd have had this down as a good away performance where we could have just nicked something at the end and anyway, our season is not going to be defined by games at massive clubs like Cardiff. It's those in and around us we need to worry about. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Nov 27, 2019 10:28:47 GMT
Mclean, Gregory and Diouf up top, Badou, Etebo and Allen (because he won't drop him) in midfield, gives us more pace and mobility. The defence is a plodding mess though. Watching Batth try and control it in order to pass it across to Indi or punt it upfield is frankly embarassing. I'm not sure how MON sorts it and doubt Ryan's return will improve anything.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 10:40:01 GMT
Same thing has happened under 3 managers now. 3 managers have tried to get us to play with purpose and the same players have fucked it every time. This is the 3rd manager in a row who needs 'at least 2 seasons'. Wonder how long he'll last...
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 27, 2019 10:42:15 GMT
But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. Ffs give the guy a chance he’s only worked with the players for a maximum of five days over three weeks the positive thing is he knows what’s wrong and needs addressing with comments like that I’m certain you are an expert in motivational speaking at seminars I believe March works widely in the insomnia industry and is very successful with his motivational speeches that have been proven to cure insomnia!  |
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 27, 2019 11:02:15 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. More agenda driven negativity. |
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 27, 2019 11:16:31 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. March Hare, it's been 3 games and he has a 66.67% win record. What the heck do you want. Someone to wave a magic wand and every player suddenly becomes a paragon of talent and industry? Try getting behind the team (and manager) for once. |
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 27, 2019 11:18:15 GMT
Mclean, Gregory and Diouf up top, Badou, Etebo and Allen (because he won't drop him) in midfield, gives us more pace and mobility. The defence is a plodding mess though. Watching Batth try and control it in order to pass it across to Indi or punt it upfield is frankly embarassing. I'm not sure how MON sorts it and doubt Ryan's return will improve anything. With a check book? |
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 27, 2019 11:28:58 GMT
Not sugar coating anything there. But has he mentioned his inability to motivate his players. You're a bigger broken record than our not scoring 3 goals in a game streak. For fucks sake march. |
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