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Post by rorystowel on Nov 30, 2019 8:47:20 GMT
I've said it before, 'he needs to be fed with crosses!' one of the biggest problems against Cardiff was that we seemed unwilling to cross the ball at all! I don't know how many times CCV played it backwards instead of crossing the ball on Tuesday, but it certainly was an awful lot! If we don't play to players strengths there is no use playing them at all. Vokes also needs movement around him to be effective, but on Tuesday night we were really dire going forward! I’m not convinced about that - you have to move and jump to get to most crosses, and Vokes rarely does either with any speed or conviction. Our striking options are pitiful, still, after all these years of spending. Criminal really.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 30, 2019 9:05:08 GMT
I don't think anybody would take Imbula and Wimmer unless they accept moving somewhere without getting any compensation from Stoke for wages. On the other hand I can see clubs coming in for Butland, Badou, Etebo, Allen, Diouf, Smith, Davies, Campbell, Woods, Indi or someone else. Time will tell, but it's all about what we would want for these players or maybe loans. I guess players like Davies and Campbell will be better off with gametime somewhere else as things stand. Butland, Badou, Etebo, Indi were all expected to leave in the summer and they didn't, why do you think that is? Davies was available on a free, so why would anyone pay now for a goalie who allegedly is not good enough to play for a bottom three team? Diouf and Campbell will be available on frees in the summer so why would anyone buy them now? I've not said they need to be sold, but lots of clubs should be interested in loaning the best keeper from league 1 last season, I guess the same could happen to Lindsay if we want to loan him out. Badou is already tracked by Turkish clubs, even Diouf seems to be, Butland didn't go because we overpriced him, Campbell should really make an impact at most league 1 clubs and I guess we have others who could be wanted by other clubs too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 10:53:34 GMT
Butland, Badou, Etebo, Indi were all expected to leave in the summer and they didn't, why do you think that is? Davies was available on a free, so why would anyone pay now for a goalie who allegedly is not good enough to play for a bottom three team? Diouf and Campbell will be available on frees in the summer so why would anyone buy them now? I've not said they need to be sold, but lots of clubs should be interested in loaning the best keeper from league 1 last season, I guess the same could happen to Lindsay if we want to loan him out. Badou is already tracked by Turkish clubs, even Diouf seems to be, Butland didn't go because we overpriced him, Campbell should really make an impact at most league 1 clubs and I guess we have others who could be wanted by other clubs too. The operative word is "could". There is no Stoke player that clubs are making their "must buy" player.
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 30, 2019 10:54:22 GMT
Best left winger for 30 years? Beagarie/Hoestra and Etherington all played left wing and were pretty good if my memory serves. ....and not any of those 3 as good as Arnie in my opinion. Etherington the closest of the 3 during their time at Stoke, but all good players though. Hoekstra was probably past his prime as a player when he came to Stoke. All those three were far more consistent than Arnie, as good as he was on his day sadly there wasn't that many.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 30, 2019 12:22:44 GMT
I've not said they need to be sold, but lots of clubs should be interested in loaning the best keeper from league 1 last season, I guess the same could happen to Lindsay if we want to loan him out. Badou is already tracked by Turkish clubs, even Diouf seems to be, Butland didn't go because we overpriced him, Campbell should really make an impact at most league 1 clubs and I guess we have others who could be wanted by other clubs too. The operative word is "could". There is no Stoke player that clubs are making their "must buy" player. Do they need to be "must buy" players to be sold or go out on loan? I think a lot of our players wouldn't be here if that was the case. Let's wait and see what will happen, I might be wrong or we could all hope I'm right.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 30, 2019 12:26:40 GMT
....and not any of those 3 as good as Arnie in my opinion. Etherington the closest of the 3 during their time at Stoke, but all good players though. Hoekstra was probably past his prime as a player when he came to Stoke. All those three were far more consistent than Arnie, as good as he was on his day sadly there wasn't that many. Only Etherington comes close for me in his time at Stoke, but when it comes to class only Fuller was on par with Arnie in our time in the top flight. This is certainly my opinion, you might have another, but then we certainly disagree in this case.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 12:30:50 GMT
Lets their centre half boss him
Lets their centre half have him in his pocket
Loses every header to their centre half
Out sprinted by their centre half for every through ball
Etc
Etc
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Post by Silkystoke on Nov 30, 2019 13:35:05 GMT
Lets their centre half boss him Lets their centre half have him in his pocket Loses every header to their centre half Out sprinted by their centre half for every through ball Etc Etc Etc So, he should score today...!!!!
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Post by zerps on Nov 30, 2019 14:02:09 GMT
Starts today 😆
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Post by Jimm on Nov 30, 2019 14:03:09 GMT
He'll get a double today ;)
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2019 14:15:07 GMT
Stick the ball in his head in the box and he will score.
Ince and MacLean have to get crosses in.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 30, 2019 14:37:44 GMT
I'm not a great fan of Diouf,but he is better than Vokes. What am I saying? Vokes is worse than K Scott.
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Post by Fred Merger on Nov 30, 2019 14:52:23 GMT
With plenty of aerial ammunition he will score more goals than Gregory!
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Post by sheds1862 on Nov 30, 2019 16:01:08 GMT
He'll get a double today Why ? Is he buying a round tonight 😂
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Post by mrred on Nov 30, 2019 16:19:42 GMT
He'll get a double today The only double this useless fucker would get is a cheeseburger.
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 30, 2019 16:34:53 GMT
He'll get a double today The only double this useless fucker would get is a cheeseburger. I can't remember a more doddling, feckless and uninspired forward at the club. He makes Crouch's time here look like we miss him being mobile.
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Post by clarkeda on Nov 30, 2019 16:46:22 GMT
He’s fucking useless. Diouf has won more headers in 1/3 of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 16:55:23 GMT
He's shite
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 30, 2019 16:59:10 GMT
Please can someone find the time to do a montage of his performance.
It was absolute comedy gold, if I wasn’t a stoke fan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 16:59:35 GMT
Dave Bamber-esque
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Post by stuammo on Nov 30, 2019 17:17:11 GMT
One of the worst striking performances I’ve ever seen today. Never won a header, never ran, never chased. Truly woeful
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 30, 2019 17:17:20 GMT
From what I've seen he's slow, lacks any obvious skill and what's worse is that he seems disinterested. Our recruitment is mind bogglingly incompetent . The whole situation really does beggar belief. Words fail me!
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 30, 2019 17:17:37 GMT
I was gonna start a thread WHY VOKES what's the fucking point
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 17:21:23 GMT
Robbing a living , absolute dog shite . Just realised we payed 9 mill for this lump of arse ! Give me strength . Sort it out Michael . And Crouchy!
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Post by elystokie on Nov 30, 2019 17:21:36 GMT
Quite simply one of the most abject performances I've seen from a Stoke player, incredible he played the full match, just bewildering.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 30, 2019 17:29:55 GMT
A disgusting specimen. He didn't pick himself in that role though did he?
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Post by starkerz14 on Nov 30, 2019 17:32:10 GMT
Has to be one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen, he won 2 headers all game, never moved for a pass or makes himself available, won’t press the ball! Fat tw@t! Is he related to Wimmer?
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Post by sd22 on Nov 30, 2019 17:52:59 GMT
2 sitters missed, can’t run, can’t jump, can’t score.
If MON picks him next game, he could be seen as overindulging in both the whiskey and the Guinness as the adage goes.
Never want to see him play for stoke again, a dreadful fat lump.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2019 18:08:54 GMT
How the fuck wasn’t he hauled off after 30 minutes today?
Absolutely useless. Worst player today by a mile.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 18:10:58 GMT
9 million.
Just let that sink in for a minute.
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