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Post by thehoof on Nov 4, 2019 23:20:36 GMT
Do you expect to score if you are awarded a penalty- yes or no? If I took 32 penalties I’d expect the keeper to save more than one. Are you a professional footballer- would you be taking the penalty against the same keeper? There are a lot of things you can have a go at Butland for, but being honest it was last year people said he only dives to his right, tonight he dived to his left and it’s still his fault?
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Post by NassauDave on Nov 4, 2019 23:21:51 GMT
I'm not jumping on the slag Jack posts But out of interest Andy Quy who was he a keeper for , what is his pedigree ? No idea Pal.
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Post by chuckrocky on Nov 4, 2019 23:22:58 GMT
If I took 32 penalties I’d expect the keeper to save more than one. Are you a professional footballer- would you be taking the penalty against the same keeper? There are a lot of things you can have a go at Butland for, but being honest it was last year people said he only dives to his right, tonight he dived to his left and it’s still his fault? Find me a professional goalkeeper with a worse penalty save percentage as Butland. His record is abysmal. His technique is abysmal. Even Haugaard managed to save more during his time at the club.
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Post by thehoof on Nov 4, 2019 23:29:20 GMT
Shilton- was he shit? Begovic- was he shit? Paul Cooper - Ipswich, saves something like 6 out of 10 penalties faced but was only 5 foot 10- perhaps that’s the goalkeeping model you want us to follow?
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Post by redwhitesingfight on Nov 4, 2019 23:30:09 GMT
Butland is a good keeper, the same as our players aren’t clueless as displayed tonight. They need galvanising - a manager to lead. That is down to the board. Go for a manager who inspires - who would make players walk through walls. It’s not rocket science.
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Post by innocentbystander on Nov 4, 2019 23:41:17 GMT
I thought his body language was terrible today, looked like he really couldn't be arsed.
He wasn't the only one though.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 4, 2019 23:44:41 GMT
I cant believe no one has commented on the build up to the penalty.
Their player is getting treatment and it becomes obvious who is taking the penalty. Quy summons vokes to the bench, gives him a message and vokes ambles his way to butland and tells him which way the penalty will go.
Presumably Jack listened and promptly dived the wrong way...as usual
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2019 23:51:58 GMT
I cant believe no one has commented on the build up to the penalty. Their player is getting treatment and it becomes obvious who is taking the penalty. Quy summons vokes to the bench, gives him a message and vokes ambles his way to butland and tells him which way the penalty will go. Presumably Jack listened and promptly dived the wrong way...as usual He almost always just flops to the left. It’s pathetic between the pair of them.
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Post by Davef on Nov 4, 2019 23:54:00 GMT
Can't say I'd be too impressed if I was Adam Federici tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 23:55:19 GMT
Can't say I'd be too impressed if I was Adam Federici tonight. Dick
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Post by wherty on Nov 4, 2019 23:59:37 GMT
He’s saved 1 of the last 32 penalties he’s faced. It’s obviously not an area of his game he’s remotely bothered about trying to improve. And I think the one he saved they tapped in the rebound... They didn't, it was against Chelsea in the league cup quarter final shoot out.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 5, 2019 0:00:25 GMT
No doubt his form will return when he manages to drag himself free of the SCFC singularity.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 5, 2019 0:02:26 GMT
I cant believe no one has commented on the build up to the penalty. Their player is getting treatment and it becomes obvious who is taking the penalty. Quy summons vokes to the bench, gives him a message and vokes ambles his way to butland and tells him which way the penalty will go. Presumably Jack listened and promptly dived the wrong way...as usual He almost always just flops to the left. It’s pathetic between the pair of them. Simmo and begovic used to do the same. Wonder what technique it is hes trying to coach?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2019 0:05:39 GMT
He almost always just flops to the left. It’s pathetic between the pair of them. Simmo and begovic used to do the same. Wonder what technique it is hes trying to coach? They did and God knows. It’s definitely in the coaching though. And where does the stuff about Quy being so good come from? It’s always been said but it’s like some myth that no one knows the origin. So many people at the club that have been there for too long and are too comfortable:
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Post by onionman on Nov 5, 2019 0:11:39 GMT
Federici has played like a proper goalkeeper for the past few games. He would have saved that penalty.
Christ alive I would have saved it myself and I never used my hands when I played in goal.
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Post by camstoke10 on Nov 5, 2019 0:13:40 GMT
Federici has played like a proper goalkeeper for the past few games. He would have saved that penalty. Christ alive I would have saved it myself and I never used my hands when I played in goal. like he saved the penalty in the Cus that went straight down the middle and he touched and it still somehow went it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 0:14:12 GMT
Federici has played like a proper goalkeeper for the past few games. He would have saved that penalty. Christ alive I would have saved it myself and I never used my hands when I played in goal. I can say with absolute certainty you wouldn't have
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Post by Davef on Nov 5, 2019 7:59:41 GMT
Can't say I'd be too impressed if I was Adam Federici tonight. Dick Who's a dick?
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Post by felonious on Nov 5, 2019 8:12:26 GMT
Can't say I'd be too impressed if I was Adam Federici tonight. Dick No, it's Adam.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Nov 5, 2019 8:19:12 GMT
I cant believe no one has commented on the build up to the penalty. Their player is getting treatment and it becomes obvious who is taking the penalty. Quy summons vokes to the bench, gives him a message and vokes ambles his way to butland and tells him which way the penalty will go. Presumably Jack listened and promptly dived the wrong way...as usual He almost always just flops to the left. It’s pathetic between the pair of them. Was Quy the coach during Tommy's time with the club? Recall an interview with Sorensen,around the time of his fine streak of penalty saves for us,where he indicated he'd been working on a few things around spot kicks with the coach without divulging the minutiae of what they were focusing on. It's strange if it is the same regime,as by and large,we've been poor at saving penalties since Tommy depared.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 5, 2019 11:55:39 GMT
I'm just thinking out loud here.....but who actually picked Butland?
From a football pov it made no sense.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 5, 2019 12:24:20 GMT
Again poor penalty technique from jack when faced with a penalty. When will he stop dropping to the floor before the ball is kicked. What is goalkeeper coach andy quy doing. Does he not coach penalty saving with Jack. Can he not see jack is making the same mistake every single time. Sort it out Quy. Sort it out butland. One player (can’t remember) took a message directly from Quay by the dug out to Butland whilst WBA we’re preparing to take the penalty. Perhaps Quay advised Butland which way to go for the penalty!!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 5, 2019 12:24:55 GMT
Butland is finished at any respectable level of football. Tripe
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 5, 2019 12:26:47 GMT
Forget the penalty, he doesn't even back himself to make a simple catch, why the hell did he get picked today, he's still clearly shot. Yep that cross he punched away should have been caught The punch cleared 30 yards to safety!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 5, 2019 12:32:28 GMT
Yep that cross he punched away should have been caught The punch cleared 30 yards to safety! And? It was the wrong decision, emblematic of a keeper lacking in confidence for me
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Post by mks1958 on Nov 5, 2019 12:45:53 GMT
Butland was not to blame in any way shape or form tonight No he wasnt totally to blame tonight but his penalty technique is poor and never improves so again what is quy and butland doing in training Claptrap
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 5, 2019 12:47:19 GMT
Dreadful attempt at saving a penalty once again.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Nov 5, 2019 12:50:39 GMT
I'm not jumping on the slag Jack posts But out of interest Andy Quy who was he a keeper for , what is his pedigree ? He was definitely at Derby in the mid 90's
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Post by localloser on Nov 5, 2019 12:56:43 GMT
Dreadful attempt at saving a penalty once again. He didn't actually make an attempt to save it. He was on the deck before Robson-Kanu kicked the ball, and as others have said above, he didn't look the slightest bit arsed. He didn't look at all confident before the kick either. Very passive and accepting. He's been infected with the same malaise and disinterest that most of the others have. What a shame (and I do mean it's shameful)
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Post by surreystokie on Nov 5, 2019 13:30:26 GMT
Cannot defend Butland who has been out of sorts to put it mildly, for some time now. And will not try to.
But amazed that not one of you has mentioned the required word, other than technique and coaching.
Does it not ring a bell that 38 penalty takers have not kicked the ball wide, skied It or hit the goalpost so that it bounced out? It’s called luck, or in our case, bad luck.
Now start on the strikers who hit the corner flag or miss a goal from two metres away. Or the midfielders who from a corner, cannot pick the ball over the first man.
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