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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 2, 2019 11:58:51 GMT
What project MD? The one he himself lost faith in every week? The one that by the time he left seemed to have fewer pieces of the puzzle in place than when he arrived? The one that was clearly still a work in progress, so far as I could see. I'd say it was fairly obvious that, even without apportioning blame, things didn't really go to plan this summer and that it was going to require a few transfer windows to really get things together. Nobody would deny that he made mistakes, especially when he panicked and ditched the diamond earlier in the season, but he was a long term investment. It was supposed to be a long term culture change, and that doesn't happen overnight. What was the work in progress? He himself didn’t seem to know. What evidence was there that he was going to stop chopping and changing his team? What evidence was there that he was going to get it right in the next few windows?
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Post by march4 on Nov 2, 2019 11:58:53 GMT
His career as a football manager is surely over.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 2, 2019 12:01:39 GMT
We will regret not giving him time to bring the project to fruition. Project relegation?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:02:21 GMT
He was absolutely thoroughly useless.
Too many bought into it though; "it's the fans fault", NJ's Barmy army and all that sickening shite.
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Post by Fred Merger on Nov 2, 2019 12:11:22 GMT
Talked a good game but delivered nothing. Just like Alan Ball. And as for that corpse with a pulse Paul Hart, good fuckin riddance!
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Post by DentySCFC on Nov 2, 2019 12:12:11 GMT
His career as a football manager is surely over. Can get a gig at Newi Cefn Druids. Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:12:29 GMT
Gave it his all, lots of reason to believe a bit less bad luck may have made a difference. If we start the season without Jack Butland playing left back and letting in back passes maybe the confidence isn't drained as much.
Made mistakes, but ultimately can hold his head high that he put everything into the club.
No doubt whatsoever in my mind that he will make an excellent manager elsewhere. Good luck NJ.
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Post by DentySCFC on Nov 2, 2019 12:13:03 GMT
We will regret not giving him time to bring the project to fruition. Project relegation? Project National League.
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Nov 2, 2019 12:13:46 GMT
May have learnt some lessons here, but I think his level will be L1/2.
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Post by toptom007 on Nov 2, 2019 12:14:43 GMT
Arrogant Manager who couldn't back it up with Anything even close to acceptable results,
Spent a fortune to take the team from 30% win rate to >10% win rate.
Destroyed moral by blaming ANYONE possible after any game taking no accountability for results or performance.
Good riddance, I hope no one else (even Vale) has to put up with his "management" again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:28:04 GMT
Gave it his all, lots of reason to believe a bit less bad luck may have made a difference. If we start the season without Jack Butland playing left back and letting in back passes maybe the confidence isn't drained as much. Made mistakes, but ultimately can hold his head high that he put everything into the club. No doubt whatsoever in my mind that he will make an excellent manager elsewhere. Good luck NJ. Butland played left back. Fuck off Jones. Jones out!
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 12:29:45 GMT
What project MD? The one he himself lost faith in every week? The one that by the time he left seemed to have fewer pieces of the puzzle in place than when he arrived? The one that was clearly still a work in progress, so far as I could see. I'd say it was fairly obvious that, even without apportioning blame, things didn't really go to plan this summer and that it was going to require a few transfer windows to really get things together. Nobody would deny that he made mistakes, especially when he panicked and ditched the diamond earlier in the season, but he was a long term investment. It was supposed to be a long term culture change, and that doesn't happen overnight. Yet he managed to make us worse virtually overnight, he was given far too much time his signings have been a disaster, he got rid players he didn't rate and replaced them with players he didn't rate or who were worse. In all seriousness who in their right mind would give him any more transfer windows ? he is a chancer who was found out very quickly.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 12:36:22 GMT
Gave it his all, lots of reason to believe a bit less bad luck may have made a difference. If we start the season without Jack Butland playing left back and letting in back passes maybe the confidence isn't drained as much. Made mistakes, but ultimately can hold his head high that he put everything into the club. No doubt whatsoever in my mind that he will make an excellent manager elsewhere. Good luck NJ. Butland played left back. Fuck off Jones. Jones out! Maybe if Jones had signed a LB he trusted and not played a useless winger there Butland would not have been covering for MCClean who was absent from his position, our left back position was targeted every time he played McClean there it cost us heavily early season yet he still carried on playing him there, poor management to say the least he has rightly lost his job pity it took our dithering board so long to pull the trigger.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 2, 2019 12:40:26 GMT
I have no doubt he gave his all in his time here, so thanks for that.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 2, 2019 12:46:49 GMT
Oh dear never mind what a shame.......and good riddance. The best thing he did was get rid of Bojan Kin 'ell, where did that come from zerps???
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 2, 2019 12:50:07 GMT
I really wanted NJ to do well here and can't help feeling that, behind the scenes, he was being limited in what he could spend , wages etc, which contributed to some of the rather strange signings. I guess we shall never know, but whilst we await the appointment of our next manager my greatest concern is that the person responsible for all these contracts is STILL in his role at SCFC and we are in danger of repeating the mistake once again. I do so hope to be proved wrong
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Post by ruts66 on Nov 2, 2019 12:55:14 GMT
The board took on a manager that promised much but delivered nothing like.
The next appointment has to be right or we're gone for a long time.
If the board bring in another manager of the same calibre as Lambert/Rowett/Jones we're fucked.
They HAVE to go big to attract the right manager or risk 10x worse...
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Post by zerps on Nov 2, 2019 12:57:09 GMT
The best thing he did was get rid of Bojan Kin 'ell, where did that come from zerps??? Been holding it in for too long ffs.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 12:58:59 GMT
I have no doubt he gave his all in his time here, so thanks for that. Pity his all was simply crap.
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Post by georgieboy52 on Nov 2, 2019 13:18:20 GMT
God didn't do a lot for you Nathan but keep the faith.
LOL.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 13:19:35 GMT
Good riddance.
It was clear he wasn’t up to the job last season but a multitude of excuses were made by fans.
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 2, 2019 13:21:49 GMT
He had to go, he knew that too, but if things had gone his way .. shawcross, and some players playing for him etc.......he would have been a great passionate manager for Stoke It’s a great word is it, if? IF my mother had married a millionaire I’d be in Barbados with my NEW friends. Fraud. Just my opinion though. Nothing about his performance here could prove otherwise. Fast team, attacking football, we can all be proud and hold our heads high as supporters. Just look at our league position again today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 13:21:50 GMT
Butland played left back. Fuck off Jones. Jones out! Maybe if Jones had signed a LB he trusted and not played a useless winger there Butland would not have been covering for MCClean who was absent from his position, our left back position was targeted every time he played McClean there it cost us heavily early season yet he still carried on playing him there, poor management to say the least he has rightly lost his job pity it took our dithering board so long to pull the trigger. McClean wasn't absent for that goal, the centre half was there to block their player and Butland made a tremendously shit error. Can't blame McClean for that, no matter how much you try.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 2, 2019 13:22:21 GMT
Though his record is absolutely awful I can’t help but like him and do wish him the best. He wasn’t very good at his job but he didn’t seem a bad or dislikable person beyond that.
I just don’t understand much if any of the decisions he made. No left back to fit the diamond, no defensive midfielder to fit it either (even if Badou could have been that player we all expected him to leave in the summer), and then a complete raffle of a team selection every weekend.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 2, 2019 13:22:52 GMT
Can't help but feel that lady luck was never on Jones's shoulder - from the key injury to Captain Shawcross
Then the best keeper in the division last season throws away five or six early goals - and he wasn't alone. Experienced players must have been responsible for gifting at least half of our goals conceded
Our stats show that we should have scored more goals but our forwards consistently missed chances
With all that comes a loss of confidence
It finished with the squad finally giving up on the challenge at Millwall against their former manager - and that had to be the end for Nathan
Jones was inexperienced and he wasn't helped by yet more poor buying in the close season - did we spend too much the previous season?
Not left with the best squad but without doubt, in my opinion, more than capable of climbing out of this mess with some leadership - and luck
Hopefully we now go for an experienced manager but please - not TP!
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Nov 2, 2019 13:28:49 GMT
Thanks for nothing now feck off!
One of the worst managers in our history has completely ruined us.
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 2, 2019 13:36:53 GMT
If it’s going to be Alex, all well and good. It will be interesting to see, after weeks of it looking like the side was picked out of a hat, who the new manager picks. He is inheriting a (put your own word in here) set of players. Control, Alt, Delete. Reset.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 13:41:50 GMT
He had to go, he knew that too, but if things had gone his way .. shawcross, and some players playing for him etc.......he would have been a great passionate manager for Stoke It’s a great word is it, if? IF my mother had married a millionaire I’d be in Barbados with my NEW friends. Fraud. Just my opinion though. Nothing about his performance here could prove otherwise. Fast team, attacking football, we can all be proud and hold our heads high as supporters. Just look at our league position again today. If my Aunty had bollocks she'd be my Uncle, signing Vokes for £9m was a pointer then failing to buy a fit for purpose LB in summer pretty much summed his time up here, tried to play a system he hadn't bought players in with the skill set to fit make it work, 12 players brought in none fitted his requirements he is a fraud.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 2, 2019 13:49:34 GMT
His career as a football manager is surely over. Far from it I would have thought, we were a miss step for him but he's still shown he's a capable manager with Luton, it'll probably be a while until he gets another chance in the Championship though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 14:25:47 GMT
Those slating him should blame the board not the manager. hes nearly worked himself into a grave giving his all Alas it seems what he had wasnt good enough It always looked a massive gamble....that's down to john coates etc Give jones a break He promised loads and delivered hardly any of it. He signed 12 players, I could have done better, some were that bad.
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