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Post by Gods on Oct 26, 2019 23:24:09 GMT
I'm strangely okay with it all.
Like any good soap opera I'm tuned in and fascinated to see what happens next.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 23:26:58 GMT
My overall feeling is I don't get the absolute disparity between the way we play against anyone outside the playoffs & above, and the rest off them.
How is this man still getting away with pinching a living whilst pulling the wool over your eyes and ramming you up the behind......
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Post by dreamtheater on Oct 26, 2019 23:52:15 GMT
My overriding feeling ? = ANGER. I want heads to roll, blood on the carpet, a boardroom insurrection with the chief exec called to account for this absolute bloody shitshow.
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Post by skip on Oct 27, 2019 0:01:56 GMT
One word summary is staggered. Very nearly all clubs have ups and downs but how we have gone from thumping teams three times the size of us to where we are now is simply staggering.
I'm with the Scholes Out lobby. That man is a walking disaster who in any other line of work would be out on his arse, months if not years ago.
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Post by FrankButcher on Oct 27, 2019 0:46:11 GMT
Apathy for me also but I also think that we'll ultimately need new owners for us to get the complete overhaul we need to move forward I just can't see it with our current owners for all the good they have done for the club they also could unravel all that goodwill by taking us into league one and forever tarnishing that legacy.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 27, 2019 1:16:12 GMT
Sad that we’re nothing like the Stoke we were not even 4 or 5 years ago. In 2015 we had the best Stoke team in 40+ years. Four years on we have something approaching the worst. And there has been no financial collapse, no ill-fated opportunistic takeover, no crisis at boardroom level, no badly-insured stand rooves blowing off. It’s quite bewildering and it all points to catastrophic mismanagement and complacency at the top. I’m superficially apathetic about it, as others have said, but it’s bloody devastating when you really think about it.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 27, 2019 1:18:10 GMT
Easy, Jones needs to go NOW!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 27, 2019 2:23:37 GMT
He's not good enough, he has got to go, he should've gone long ago and it's all ticking away slowly again because we beat Swansea... The longterm results are screaming at us why is nothing getting done about this shit show? It's honestly fucking embarrasing now. If YOU care about STOKE CITY FOOTBALL CLUB then you should want this man OUT NOW. It sounds like you're passionate about this. If so, you should direct your anger at those who recruited him and continue to do so. You can say Jones out a billion times, and pontificate about it. The owners who have overseen this massive demise OK are they? Those that have recruited Jones? I mean Jones can take the blame, but the longer this goes on it's all on the owners. I think he was a risk and I never expected him to do that well, but to produce this? Fuck me it's been shite that you may aswell put McLaren in charge all he has to do is get 3 wins...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 6:44:31 GMT
Dismay.
In January I thought it would take Jones the rest of last season to assess the squad and make his "ins /outs" transfer list. I thought we'd see a very noticeable improvement in performances this season, with many more wins, be hovering around the playoff places for most of the season, but ultimately slip away and finish about 8th. We'd then improve again in the transfer window and have a full blown assault ending in promotion in the 20/21 season.
All we've actually had is a serious continued decline in performances and results leaving us stuck in the relegation places with no sign that we're likely to escape with this buffoon in charge. Everything about the club absolutely stinks.
How we can have gone from being an established top half Prem club to a bottom three Championship club in just about 4 years is absolutely beyond belief.
I can't be bothered to watch a stream anymore, and when the news of yet another defeat is reported it doesn't surprise me, it just saddens me. I've supported the club for 55 years and this is undoubtedly one of the lowest points I can remember in all that time. There is just no light at the end of the tunnel, and no real hope that anything will improve.
I don't think we've actually reached our lowest point yet but when we do it's going to take one hell of a turnaround to get us back on the upward curve again.
Jones is clearly not capable of turning us round, but can the Board actually see the situation we're in, and are they really serious about trying to avoid another relegation ? If so they MUST act now before things become toxic with the fans, and the club just limps into League One.
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Post by cheshirepotter on Oct 27, 2019 6:57:02 GMT
I think mine would have to be sadness. Sad that we’ve effortlessly pissed away a good, Premier League club. Sad that we’ve slipped out of the limelight and into oblivion . Sad that we’ve appointed managers not up to the task of managing Stoke City. Sad that we still turn up week after week to be treated to shows of abject rubbish. Sad that we’re nothing like the Stoke we were not even 4 or 5 years ago. Sad that we’re not going to see the top flight for a good few years. Sad at what the club has turned into. Sad that we’ve spent millions and millions and made countless signings only to make us so much worse than we ever dreamt. It’s just a fucking crying shame that it’s come down to this. We’ll be lucky not to get relegated to League One where we haven’t languished for 18 years! That’s a long, long time ago since we were this bad. It could take years to rebuild this and knowing what we had might not ever be achieved again is just sad. I know following Stoke has never been about glory and trophies but it’s been about pride and determination. We are so far lacking in both of those departments that it doesn’t bear thinking about. When you support your club as a 12/13 year old it’s all just about the hope and I was used to us just being where we were. When you get older, you can see how hard it is to improve and get back to the top level. We’ve not been further away from that than we are now since I started going. We are well and truly frazzled and out of ideas. It’s all just sad. How we’ve managed to piss it all away so quickly. We‘ll all still be there in some way supporting Stoke but gone are the days of sell our crowds, beating top European sides. We’re back to the grind of football league football. I by no means want or expect top level football on a plate but once you know what it’s like, seeing us this bad is soul destroying. Maybe it will make me appreciate it more in the long run if and when we eventually make it back but losing so routinely away at Millwall really hits home how far we’ve derailed in the past two years. We’ve managed to get worse and worse and worse and are still in freefall yet it still feels like even relegation to League One wouldn’t see a halt in our decline. We could keep on dropping and dropping. The club should hang it’s head in shame. Clubs of similar sizes and even bigger ha e had the same problems and maybe (hopefully) we can get back to where we want sooner than it looks at present but, right now, this is lowest point of my Stoke supporting life. I don’t want to use the term embarrassed because I’ll love and support the club no matter what but it’s just a demoralising, horrific time to support Stoke City.
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Post by cheshirepotter on Oct 27, 2019 6:58:26 GMT
Fully agree with the original post except... I've stopped turning up, I don't want to watch rubbish every week. I believe thousands more should do the same.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Oct 27, 2019 8:29:22 GMT
My overriding feeling is one of annoyance, due to the fact that the board have learnt nothing from previous recruitment mistakes. We now have a manager who has promised us the world, when in reality is the worst manager we have ever had. But the fact that people still think this clueless clown will turn it around annoys me the most. A portion of our fanbase are blinded by the fact that he's a "nice bloke" and overall that fucks me off the most, because if we keep him on in charge then I'm certain we will be relegated.
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Post by Gods on Oct 27, 2019 8:43:43 GMT
Sad that we’re nothing like the Stoke we were not even 4 or 5 years ago. In 2015 we had the best Stoke team in 40+ years. Four years on we have something approaching the worst. And there has been no financial collapse, no ill-fated opportunistic takeover, no crisis at boardroom level, no badly-insured stand rooves blowing off. It’s quite bewildering and it all points to catastrophic mismanagement and complacency at the top. I’m superficially apathetic about it, as others have said, but it’s bloody devastating when you really think about it. You've hit on the strangest thing. We've been this bad and worse on several occasions in the modern era but always when we haven't had 2 coins to rub together. This is very different.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Oct 27, 2019 8:51:50 GMT
Frustration.
The performance is one thing but the bad financial decisions we continue to make will hamper is for years to come. We are owned by savvy business people who’re panicking and making really stupid decisions.
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Post by shipshape on Oct 27, 2019 8:56:48 GMT
Frustration. The performance is one thing but the bad financial decisions we continue to make will hamper is for years to come. We are owned by savvy business people who’re panicking and making really stupid decisions. We're owned by people whose daughter / sister is a savvy business person. If said person had been more involved I suspect the mess would not exist.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 27, 2019 9:05:39 GMT
I'm strangely okay with it all. Like any good soap opera I'm tuned in and fascinated to see what happens next. Is Stephen King writing this one?
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Post by noustie on Oct 27, 2019 9:11:13 GMT
Frustration- the two games we won we seemed to look more 4-4-2 than diamond as full backs had some cover. Last two games we've reverted back to massive spaces down the flanks.
If Gary Rowett can coach a shit team to beat it in a day and a half it is time, one way or another, to fuck it off.
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Post by jarhead on Oct 27, 2019 9:13:56 GMT
Yep I'm not even bothered when we lose because it happens so often I've come to expect it This sadly. We are definitely going down. AGAIN!
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 27, 2019 9:18:15 GMT
Past caring.
Saturday afternoons when we're away from home are now spent walking the dog.
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Post by fca47 on Oct 27, 2019 9:19:33 GMT
We need a manager to sort this squad out, we obviously have a bunch of gutless freeloaders. They are obviously being badly led, but when the useless previous manager can organise a team to embarass us , the players have to be the major problem. There also shouldn't be anyone left at the club responsible for recruitment.
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Post by robstokie on Oct 27, 2019 9:23:43 GMT
Sad that we’re nothing like the Stoke we were not even 4 or 5 years ago. In 2015 we had the best Stoke team in 40+ years. Four years on we have something approaching the worst. And there has been no financial collapse, no ill-fated opportunistic takeover, no crisis at boardroom level, no badly-insured stand rooves blowing off. It’s quite bewildering and it all points to catastrophic mismanagement and complacency at the top. I’m superficially apathetic about it, as others have said, but it’s bloody devastating when you really think about it. I'd go as far as to say this is the worst Stoke team weve had - at least the other Stoke teams were in this position at least put a shift in. These bunch of frauds just roll over every week, the worst thing is this will more or less the team we have next season, minus the few bright sparks - we'll be stuck with the Lindsay's, the Cousins etc. Know it sounds dramatic, but honestly think we could be struggling to stay in the football league.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 9:28:38 GMT
I'm in pain and anguish mode right now.
This was perfectly demonstrated by seeing McClean and Martins Indi trying to do damage down the left and realising that the right didn't have any better option, all to try and make a chance for sole striker Gregory.
I also really detest how Clucas and McClean are gobby little shits who react like petulant, angry brats any time a decision is given against them (or...more accurately... not for them). It works against the whole team when they do that.
Edit - and yes, seeing Lindsay on the pitch. I don't like his face, I don't like his hair. I especially don't like how wank he is.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 27, 2019 9:29:34 GMT
It has changed for me from anger at how the club has fallen to apathy/acceptance to frustration that no one has done anything right since relegation to a feeling of inevitability about it all
It is going to take years to sort out and I just dont see who in the current set up can do it
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Post by mrred on Oct 27, 2019 9:30:02 GMT
Our players are a bunch of character less, bottlejob cunts that I detest. I can take not being good enough technically, but not trying? Hiding? Shrinking to let others take the blame?
Go fuck yourselves.
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Post by Goonie on Oct 27, 2019 9:33:41 GMT
I used to be apathetic but now I'm just not bothered 😲
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 27, 2019 9:51:45 GMT
Trying to stop caring. Absolutely raging about our board keeping NJ. It’s bloody ludicrous- any other club and he would have gone several weeks ago.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Oct 27, 2019 9:56:59 GMT
Resignation
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Post by Goonie on Oct 27, 2019 9:59:16 GMT
I'm strangely okay with it all. Like any good soap opera I'm tuned in and fascinated to see what happens next. Is Stephen King writing this one? Or Tom Sharpe Wilt: The Stoke Years
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Post by adelaidepotter on Oct 27, 2019 10:01:54 GMT
Sadness and bewilderment. I actually shed a tear this morning when I looked at my phone and realised we had lost again.
I have a 13,000 mile buffer and I'm hurting, I really feel for you supporters that are at the game week in week out.
I remember growing up and access to English football in Australia was via telephone results on Sunday morning, buying the paper on a Monday morning or The Match of the Day that was replayed on our ABC. Seeing anything about Stoke City on Telly was just about unheard of and over the years I only ever caught a glimpse.
I would always check the results and realised that Stoke would probably never be any good but they would always be my team. With pay TV and internet brought better access to The English Football and with Peter Coates, and Tony Pulis came hope that we might become a reasonable team. Yes we played an ugly style of football with Pulis, but Stoke were in The Prem and it was a team to be proud of. Stoke were like the underdog that proved hard work and grit and determination could at times beat flair and class. It seemed the embodiment of everything I was taught as a kid.
The next phase after Pulis saw me dare to dream, Stoke might make top six in The Prem. I accept things can go wrong and relegation didn't bother me too much as I believed we would be back in a few years.
Now I honestly believe we are in massive trouble. I never thought Lambert or Rowett were what we needed but I think each change of manager has been a step backwards. All I know now is this is the worst team I have ever seen at Stoke and it hurts like hell.
I'm on the other side of the world but I love Stoke City Football Club, and I'm proud to go to the football in Australia wearing the red and white, but at moment I literally feel sick watching what is happening.
Please Mr Coates do something to stop the rot, and don't let Mr Jones be in charge for even one more game. Unless something happens now we will be relegated again this season.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 27, 2019 10:42:19 GMT
Our players are a bunch of character less, bottlejob cunts that I detest. I can take not being good enough technically, but not trying? Hiding? Shrinking to let others take the blame? Go fuck yourselves. Young, hungry, athletic players a team to be proud of !!!!!!!!! Fuck off Nathan you fraud.
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