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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 21:37:26 GMT
I feel dirty defending the Tories but that Tweet is misleading as it makes it sound like people have had their benefits cut since Boris became PM, which is false. In the article it says that 350,000 had their payments stopped & 300,000 had their payments decreased since 2013 (Although 3/4 of them had this decision overturned upon appeal.) It also says that 550,000 had their payments increased - Although that obviously doesn't make such a good headline. Right, I'm just going have a good scrub in the shower. Don't ever make me defend the Tories again. Hi I’m one of those who had their payments increased, I kinda get the point and I’m certainly not complaining about my payments going up, however the whole process was incredibly dehumanising as I felt I had to justify what everyone with a set of eyes knew. That my disability impacts my life in a major way. The reasons a lot of these payments went up is because the government employed people with absolutely no medical training to do the assessments. Then when the reports came back they were flawed as a result. In my case the report stated I had ‘a completely functioning right hand’ I was asked during the assessment by a doctor, who was part of the 3 person panel including a judge to pick up a cup cardboard cup with my right hand about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water... I ended up with wet jeans. I was given higher rate on the day including a 3 grand payment. I bought new jeans. The government deserves no credit for these increase in payments. This was not an act of compassion on behalf of this government it was the courts who forced them into it. There you don’t have to defend the tories mate 😉 I've always been a proponent of Universal Basic Income over welfare state, but have never discussed it with someone who has disability benefits so I'm interested, what are your thoughts on that? Would it make things easier/better for you or would it be less helpful?
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Mar 2, 2020 0:11:21 GMT
Hi I’m one of those who had their payments increased, I kinda get the point and I’m certainly not complaining about my payments going up, however the whole process was incredibly dehumanising as I felt I had to justify what everyone with a set of eyes knew. That my disability impacts my life in a major way. The reasons a lot of these payments went up is because the government employed people with absolutely no medical training to do the assessments. Then when the reports came back they were flawed as a result. In my case the report stated I had ‘a completely functioning right hand’ I was asked during the assessment by a doctor, who was part of the 3 person panel including a judge to pick up a cup cardboard cup with my right hand about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water... I ended up with wet jeans. I was given higher rate on the day including a 3 grand payment. I bought new jeans. The government deserves no credit for these increase in payments. This was not an act of compassion on behalf of this government it was the courts who forced them into it. There you don’t have to defend the tories mate 😉 I've always been a proponent of Universal Basic Income over welfare state, but have never discussed it with someone who has disability benefits so I'm interested, what are your thoughts on that? Would it make things easier/better for you or would it be less helpful? Hiya Yeh that’s a really interesting concept and one I’ve given some thought to. I suppose it may have the effect of levelling the playing field so those in receipt of disability benefits would no longer be seen as scroungers. Which would be great, much depends on how they go about implementing it. I’ll do some research and get back to you on this
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 3, 2020 6:13:31 GMT
Headline of the weekend...
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 3, 2020 6:33:25 GMT
Hi I’m one of those who had their payments increased, I kinda get the point and I’m certainly not complaining about my payments going up, however the whole process was incredibly dehumanising as I felt I had to justify what everyone with a set of eyes knew. That my disability impacts my life in a major way. The reasons a lot of these payments went up is because the government employed people with absolutely no medical training to do the assessments. Then when the reports came back they were flawed as a result. In my case the report stated I had ‘a completely functioning right hand’ I was asked during the assessment by a doctor, who was part of the 3 person panel including a judge to pick up a cup cardboard cup with my right hand about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water... I ended up with wet jeans. I was given higher rate on the day including a 3 grand payment. I bought new jeans. The government deserves no credit for these increase in payments. This was not an act of compassion on behalf of this government it was the courts who forced them into it. There you don’t have to defend the tories mate 😉 I've always been a proponent of Universal Basic Income over welfare state, but have never discussed it with someone who has disability benefits so I'm interested, what are your thoughts on that? Would it make things easier/better for you or would it be less helpful? Disability Benefits aren’t means tested, so other income has no bearing on them...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 5, 2020 11:20:11 GMT
The latest 'scoop' from the laughable Independent.
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Post by thequietman on Mar 5, 2020 12:38:53 GMT
I feel dirty defending the Tories but that Tweet is misleading as it makes it sound like people have had their benefits cut since Boris became PM, which is false. In the article it says that 350,000 had their payments stopped & 300,000 had their payments decreased since 2013 (Although 3/4 of them had this decision overturned upon appeal.) It also says that 550,000 had their payments increased - Although that obviously doesn't make such a good headline. Right, I'm just going have a good scrub in the shower. Don't ever make me defend the Tories again. Hi I’m one of those who had their payments increased, I kinda get the point and I’m certainly not complaining about my payments going up, however the whole process was incredibly dehumanising as I felt I had to justify what everyone with a set of eyes knew. That my disability impacts my life in a major way. The reasons a lot of these payments went up is because the government employed people with absolutely no medical training to do the assessments. Then when the reports came back they were flawed as a result. In my case the report stated I had ‘a completely functioning right hand’ I was asked during the assessment by a doctor, who was part of the 3 person panel including a judge to pick up a cup cardboard cup with my right hand about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water... I ended up with wet jeans. I was given higher rate on the day including a 3 grand payment. I bought new jeans. The government deserves no credit for these increase in payments. This was not an act of compassion on behalf of this government it was the courts who forced them into it. There you don’t have to defend the tories mate 😉 Just as an aside to this, a close mate (Mr B) had to have a leg amputated a decade ago. He has to attend annual interviews to prove he's still disabled. They're always conducted by government representatives with no medical training.
At his last interview, the chap running it explained he now had to review Mr B's need for a specially adapted car (automatic with left-foot braking & accelerator seeing as it was his right leg that was amputated).
The interview had been going on for an hour, as they always did, and Mr B was getting annoyed at the petty bureaucracy and having to prove the bl00dy obvious (as he does ... grumpy old scrote ... :-) )
Mr B took off his prosthetic leg, slammed it on the table and said "do I really have to go through the same things again and again? there's no f*&^%$g need, my leg's obviously grown back"
The interviewer, in all seriousness, reached into a draw for a sheaf of forms and said "oh, well, there's a lot of things we'll have to cancel then"
I kid you not.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Mar 6, 2020 13:55:37 GMT
Hi I’m one of those who had their payments increased, I kinda get the point and I’m certainly not complaining about my payments going up, however the whole process was incredibly dehumanising as I felt I had to justify what everyone with a set of eyes knew. That my disability impacts my life in a major way. The reasons a lot of these payments went up is because the government employed people with absolutely no medical training to do the assessments. Then when the reports came back they were flawed as a result. In my case the report stated I had ‘a completely functioning right hand’ I was asked during the assessment by a doctor, who was part of the 3 person panel including a judge to pick up a cup cardboard cup with my right hand about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water... I ended up with wet jeans. I was given higher rate on the day including a 3 grand payment. I bought new jeans. The government deserves no credit for these increase in payments. This was not an act of compassion on behalf of this government it was the courts who forced them into it. There you don’t have to defend the tories mate 😉 Just as an aside to this, a close mate (Mr B) had to have a leg amputated a decade ago. He has to attend annual interviews to prove he's still disabled. They're always conducted by government representatives with no medical training. At his last interview, the chap running it explained he now had to review Mr B's need for a specially adapted car (automatic with left-foot braking & accelerator seeing as it was his right leg that was amputated).
The interview had been going on for an hour, as they always did, and Mr B was getting annoyed at the petty bureaucracy and having to prove the bl00dy obvious (as he does ... grumpy old scrote ... :-) ) Mr B took off his prosthetic leg, slammed it on the table and said "do I really have to go through the same things again and again? there's no f*&^%$g need, my leg's obviously grown back" The interviewer, in all seriousness, reached into a draw for a sheaf of forms and said "oh, well, there's a lot of things we'll have to cancel then" I kid you not.
Hi This doesn’t surprise in the slightest to be honest. There are some people they should just leave the fuck alone they’ve been through enough
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Mar 6, 2020 14:27:39 GMT
Just as an aside to this, a close mate (Mr B) had to have a leg amputated a decade ago. He has to attend annual interviews to prove he's still disabled. They're always conducted by government representatives with no medical training. At his last interview, the chap running it explained he now had to review Mr B's need for a specially adapted car (automatic with left-foot braking & accelerator seeing as it was his right leg that was amputated).
The interview had been going on for an hour, as they always did, and Mr B was getting annoyed at the petty bureaucracy and having to prove the bl00dy obvious (as he does ... grumpy old scrote ... :-) ) Mr B took off his prosthetic leg, slammed it on the table and said "do I really have to go through the same things again and again? there's no f*&^%$g need, my leg's obviously grown back" The interviewer, in all seriousness, reached into a draw for a sheaf of forms and said "oh, well, there's a lot of things we'll have to cancel then" I kid you not.
Hi This doesn’t surprise in the slightest to be honest. There are some people they should just leave the fuck alone they’ve been through enough Thank you both for sharing these stories, completely eye-opening and staggering at the same time.
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Post by Northy on Mar 6, 2020 14:45:00 GMT
Hi I’m one of those who had their payments increased, I kinda get the point and I’m certainly not complaining about my payments going up, however the whole process was incredibly dehumanising as I felt I had to justify what everyone with a set of eyes knew. That my disability impacts my life in a major way. The reasons a lot of these payments went up is because the government employed people with absolutely no medical training to do the assessments. Then when the reports came back they were flawed as a result. In my case the report stated I had ‘a completely functioning right hand’ I was asked during the assessment by a doctor, who was part of the 3 person panel including a judge to pick up a cup cardboard cup with my right hand about 1/2 to 3/4 full of water... I ended up with wet jeans. I was given higher rate on the day including a 3 grand payment. I bought new jeans. The government deserves no credit for these increase in payments. This was not an act of compassion on behalf of this government it was the courts who forced them into it. There you don’t have to defend the tories mate 😉 Just as an aside to this, a close mate (Mr B) had to have a leg amputated a decade ago. He has to attend annual interviews to prove he's still disabled. They're always conducted by government representatives with no medical training. At his last interview, the chap running it explained he now had to review Mr B's need for a specially adapted car (automatic with left-foot braking & accelerator seeing as it was his right leg that was amputated).
The interview had been going on for an hour, as they always did, and Mr B was getting annoyed at the petty bureaucracy and having to prove the bl00dy obvious (as he does ... grumpy old scrote ... :-) ) Mr B took off his prosthetic leg, slammed it on the table and said "do I really have to go through the same things again and again? there's no f*&^%$g need, my leg's obviously grown back" The interviewer, in all seriousness, reached into a draw for a sheaf of forms and said "oh, well, there's a lot of things we'll have to cancel then" I kid you not.
How did he lose his leg ?
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Post by foster on Mar 6, 2020 14:56:52 GMT
Just as an aside to this, a close mate (Mr B) had to have a leg amputated a decade ago. He has to attend annual interviews to prove he's still disabled. They're always conducted by government representatives with no medical training. At his last interview, the chap running it explained he now had to review Mr B's need for a specially adapted car (automatic with left-foot braking & accelerator seeing as it was his right leg that was amputated).
The interview had been going on for an hour, as they always did, and Mr B was getting annoyed at the petty bureaucracy and having to prove the bl00dy obvious (as he does ... grumpy old scrote ... :-) ) Mr B took off his prosthetic leg, slammed it on the table and said "do I really have to go through the same things again and again? there's no f*&^%$g need, my leg's obviously grown back" The interviewer, in all seriousness, reached into a draw for a sheaf of forms and said "oh, well, there's a lot of things we'll have to cancel then" I kid you not.
How did he lose his leg ? Maybe he forget it at the interview office?
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Post by thequietman on Mar 6, 2020 14:57:44 GMT
Just as an aside to this, a close mate (Mr B) had to have a leg amputated a decade ago. He has to attend annual interviews to prove he's still disabled. They're always conducted by government representatives with no medical training. At his last interview, the chap running it explained he now had to review Mr B's need for a specially adapted car (automatic with left-foot braking & accelerator seeing as it was his right leg that was amputated).
The interview had been going on for an hour, as they always did, and Mr B was getting annoyed at the petty bureaucracy and having to prove the bl00dy obvious (as he does ... grumpy old scrote ... :-) ) Mr B took off his prosthetic leg, slammed it on the table and said "do I really have to go through the same things again and again? there's no f*&^%$g need, my leg's obviously grown back" The interviewer, in all seriousness, reached into a draw for a sheaf of forms and said "oh, well, there's a lot of things we'll have to cancel then" I kid you not.
How did he lose his leg ? Went into hospital with complications from a bladder infection. Whilst he was in, his notes show he was prescribed warfarin & that he should wear those lovely compression tights because there were concerns about his blood flow in his legs. They didn't give him warfarin, didn't give him the tights to wear & didn't tell him he should be wearing them. He developed a blood clot in his foot, his foot went gangrenous which spread halfway up his calf & was getting higher by the hour. He had to have the leg amputated above the knee. they did the amputation on his 40th birthday !
Horrific. He was very lucky to live through it in the end. He got a massive pay out but he (and I !) wishes he hadn't gone through it & that he still had 2 legs.
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Post by thequietman on Mar 6, 2020 14:59:06 GMT
How did he lose his leg ? Maybe he forget it at the interview office? You bad, bad person Foster
I'll suggest that to him next time I see him. From a very safe distance. He's been know to hurl the prosthetic a fair way when the mood takes him.
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Post by Northy on Mar 6, 2020 15:04:55 GMT
How did he lose his leg ? Went into hospital with complications from a bladder infection. Whilst he was in, his notes show he was prescribed warfarin & that he should wear those lovely compression tights because there were concerns about his blood flow in his legs. They didn't give him warfarin, didn't give him the tights to wear & didn't tell him he should be wearing them. He developed a blood clot in his foot, his foot went gangrenous which spread halfway up his calf & was getting higher by the hour. He had to have the leg amputated above the knee. they did the amputation on his 40th birthday !
Horrific. He was very lucky to live through it in the end. He got a massive pay out but he (and I !) wishes he hadn't gone through it & that he still had 2 legs.
He was lucky in one sense, but so frustrating the negligence from a few people My stepdad lost one leg, 18 months later and the day before he was due to have a prosthetic fitted he got gangrene in his 2nd foot, he never got out of hospital again and died a couple of weeks later.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 8, 2020 9:32:34 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 8, 2020 9:42:01 GMT
The latest 'scoop' from the laughable Independent. It’s from This Morning. Your favourite go to media source...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 8, 2020 9:56:08 GMT
The latest 'scoop' from the laughable Independent. It’s from This Morning. Your favourite go to media source... It's in The Independent, probably one of yours.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 8, 2020 10:01:56 GMT
He declared it, said who had given it to him I would assume that would be the person who paid for it myself but odd of someone to let you think otherwise, still not exactly taking undeclared free trips off hamas like some people is it
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 8, 2020 10:01:58 GMT
It’s from This Morning. Your favourite go to media source... It's in The Independent, probably one of yours. Yet again, Bonzo going through the rigours of tough questioning on Phillis & Holly. It almost makes one wonder what we pay our licensing fee for...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 8, 2020 10:24:09 GMT
It's in The Independent, probably one of yours. Yet again, Bonzo going through the rigours of tough questioning on Phillis & Holly. It almost makes one wonder what we pay our licensing fee for... Well we don't pay for the This Morning but you've kind of made my point. The softest of interviews and The Independent picks the the most vacuous moment.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 8, 2020 10:30:54 GMT
Yet again, Bonzo going through the rigours of tough questioning on Phillis & Holly. It almost makes one wonder what we pay our licensing fee for... Well we don't pay for the This Morning but you've kind of made my point. The softest of interviews and The Independent picks the the most vacuous moment. If he hadnt gone back they would be shouting homophobe at him, goes on tv show with the biggest audience at that time of day almost like he wants to speak to the most voters or something....
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 8, 2020 13:16:53 GMT
Yet again, Bonzo going through the rigours of tough questioning on Phillis & Holly. It almost makes one wonder what we pay our licensing fee for... Well we don't pay for the This Morning but you've kind of made my point. The softest of interviews and The Independent picks the the most vacuous moment. For someone that works in advertising, you really don’t get the bigger picture. Just who is your demographic...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 8, 2020 14:26:08 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 8, 2020 15:39:57 GMT
One person shouting traitor bizarre that is a headline why not PM applauded on trip to worcestershire I can hear one person clapping too, sky views is really getting a bit desperate.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Mar 8, 2020 18:33:59 GMT
I see the thick twat is still shaking hands and posing for selfies. He really doesn't get this idea of sending out a message about coronavirus does he?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 8, 2020 20:20:46 GMT
I see the thick twat is still shaking hands and posing for selfies. He really doesn't get this idea of sending out a message about coronavirus does he? What do you want him do, walk around in a hazmat suit pushing a trolley piled high with bog rolls? ... And how come calling people a "traitor" is suddenly fine & dandy again? It was the worst offence known to man just a few months ago.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 8, 2020 20:28:03 GMT
I see the thick twat is still shaking hands and posing for selfies. He really doesn't get this idea of sending out a message about coronavirus does he? What do you want him do, walk around in a hazmat suit pushing a trolley piled high with bog rolls? ... And how come calling people a "traitor" is suddenly fine & dandy again? It was the worst offence known to man just a few months ago. They were slagging him off for not visiting last week talk about pathetic bias.
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 8, 2020 20:32:12 GMT
I see the thick twat is still shaking hands and posing for selfies. He really doesn't get this idea of sending out a message about coronavirus does he? Yes your right he should have gone for the fist bump, much more hygienic and down with the kids...
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 8, 2020 20:37:35 GMT
I see the thick twat is still shaking hands and posing for selfies. He really doesn't get this idea of sending out a message about coronavirus does he? Yes your right he should have gone for the fist bump, much more hygienic and down with the kids... I'm building a bunker all these knickers wetters have convinced me its armageddon.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 8, 2020 20:38:31 GMT
I see the thick twat is still shaking hands and posing for selfies. He really doesn't get this idea of sending out a message about coronavirus does he? I don't think the people of Worcestershire could give a flying fuck about coronavirus whilst their sofa's floating around the living room.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Mar 8, 2020 20:59:15 GMT
I see the thick twat is still shaking hands and posing for selfies. He really doesn't get this idea of sending out a message about coronavirus does he? What do you want him do, walk around in a hazmat suit pushing a trolley piled high with bog rolls? ... And how come calling people a "traitor" is suddenly fine & dandy again? It was the worst offence known to man just a few months ago. Can't see where I mentioned the traitor bit.
Fact is this week or next a decision might be taken to play football matches behind closed doors, large gatherings cancelled etc. Handshakes at football matches pre-kick off have already been stopped. A Hazmat suit would of course stoke unnecessary hysteria, but Johnson , as Prime Minister, could, just for fucking once, set an example by politely stating that while he is carrying on as normal , not shaking hands or posing for selfies would seem a sensible precaution?
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