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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 13, 2019 7:52:35 GMT
He is, really!!? Same number of promotions. Less relegations. Got to two FA cup finals and proved he can manage big players at Newcastle. His win ratio over a similar amount of games is higher, with a greater percentage of games at a higher level. My impression is that when things get a bit rough he really isn't the right man.
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 13, 2019 8:17:52 GMT
As it happens I actually think Jones is more futuristic than McCarthy. McCarthy has just managed to mastermind a goalless draw against a country ranked lower than the footballing greats of Gabon, Congo, Syria and Cape Verde Islands!! You mean the man who manages a team unbeaten, top of their group and going to the Euros, over a clown who has won four games in 30 odd games and lost to Crawley the other week? Were you any good at Top Trumps?! š Oh I quite accept that he can set a team up to achieve binary results and he's up there with TP in that regard. I just don't like to watch it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 13, 2019 8:24:13 GMT
Awful manager. One of only of three that I wouldnāt want repacking Jones that Iāve seen named. So you actually want Pardew instead of McCarthy, MON and TP! I think heād have a little bit of success here if he came and thereās the side of me that can see how it all would end and that makes me laugh. Short term though out of those 4 heās streets ahead. Iād want none of them past this season.
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Post by minnierover on Oct 13, 2019 8:27:46 GMT
Indeed, lovely 0-0 against Georgia last night. His football is boring and no better than Pulis. He may keep us up but he wouldnāt take us up and itād be boring. Every dog will have his day and Mick McCarthy has had his.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 13, 2019 8:55:43 GMT
Indeed, lovely 0-0 against Georgia last night. His football is boring and no better than Pulis. He may keep us up but he wouldnāt take us up and itād be boring. Every dog will have his day and Mick McCarthy has had his. We'd be top 8 minimum right now if Mad Mick had this squad. Probably higher. It takes a special kind of cretin to have us rock bottom that is for certain. His entire record suggests he'd have us in the play offs, year one. I personally don't give a shiny shit how it looks on the eye.
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Post by RAF on Oct 13, 2019 9:00:13 GMT
Indeed, lovely 0-0 against Georgia last night. His football is boring and no better than Pulis. He may keep us up but he wouldnāt take us up and itād be boring. Every dog will have his day and Mick McCarthy has had his. We'd be top 8 minimum right now if Mad Mick had this squad. Probably higher. It takes a special kind of cretin to have us rock bottom that is for certain. His entire record suggests he'd have us in the play offs, year one. I personally don't give a shiny shit how it looks on the eye. Well that's an opinion for sure. H
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 13, 2019 9:06:00 GMT
We'd be top 8 minimum right now if Mad Mick had this squad. Probably higher. It takes a special kind of cretin to have us rock bottom that is for certain. His entire record suggests he'd have us in the play offs, year one. I personally don't give a shiny shit how it looks on the eye. Well that's an opinion for sure. H He's a genuine divisional expert, unlike the chancers, frauds and imposters we've had managing us lately. I just don't get the snobbiness about him from fans of the most underperforming club in the country bar none.
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Post by minnierover on Oct 13, 2019 9:07:15 GMT
Indeed, lovely 0-0 against Georgia last night. His football is boring and no better than Pulis. He may keep us up but he wouldnāt take us up and itād be boring. Every dog will have his day and Mick McCarthy has had his. We'd be top 8 minimum right now if Mad Mick had this squad. Probably higher. It takes a special kind of cretin to have us rock bottom that is for certain. His entire record suggests he'd have us in the play offs, year one. I personally don't give a shiny shit how it looks on the eye. Oh well, that changes it, if weād be 8th now letās get him in. He really does sound like the messiah. I notice how you couldnāt bring yourself to say weād be top 3. Sums it up really, no thanks āsteady eddie Mickā I rather us go for a manager with more attacking flair and modern thinking who could get us in the automatic spots.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 13, 2019 9:10:43 GMT
We'd be top 8 minimum right now if Mad Mick had this squad. Probably higher. It takes a special kind of cretin to have us rock bottom that is for certain. His entire record suggests he'd have us in the play offs, year one. I personally don't give a shiny shit how it looks on the eye. Oh well, that changes it, if weād be 8th now letās get him in. He really does sound like the messiah. I notice how you couldnāt bring yourself to say weād be top 3. Sums it up really, no thanks āsteady eddie Mickā I rather us go for a manager with more attacking flair and modern thinking who could get us in the automatic spots. I'm being realistic and never said he was the Messiah. This club has been run like a circus for five years, it's insane to say we could be top three. We haven't even got a left back worth the name at the club for fucks sake. He's a decent manager not a bastard miracle worker.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 13, 2019 9:12:31 GMT
I rather us go for a manager with more attacking flair and modern thinking who could get us in the automatic spots. Klopp? Pep?
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 13, 2019 9:13:01 GMT
We'd be top 8 minimum right now if Mad Mick had this squad. Probably higher. It takes a special kind of cretin to have us rock bottom that is for certain. His entire record suggests he'd have us in the play offs, year one. I personally don't give a shiny shit how it looks on the eye. Oh well, that changes it, if weād be 8th now letās get him in. He really does sound like the messiah. I notice how you couldnāt bring yourself to say weād be top 3. Sums it up really, no thanks āsteady eddie Mickā I rather us go for a manager with more attacking flair and modern thinking who could get us in the automatic spots. I thought we had one of them with Nathan turned out well not.
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Post by minnierover on Oct 13, 2019 9:33:05 GMT
Haha, yeh theyād do and I know what you mean in that theyāre not easy to find. That said whoād have thought the likes of Bielsa and Bilic would be tempted to join second tier teams. Iām just saying itād be great to watch some skilful football and to see us knocking 3 or 4 past teams. Those types of managers are out there, we just need to approach them.
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Post by georgieboy52 on Oct 13, 2019 9:33:57 GMT
Indeed, lovely 0-0 against Georgia last night. His football is boring and no better than Pulis. He may keep us up but he wouldnāt take us up and itād be boring. Every dog will have his day and Mick McCarthy has had his. Just keeping Stoke up this season looks like a goal in itself to me.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 13, 2019 11:29:29 GMT
So you actually want Pardew instead of McCarthy, MON and TP! I think heād have a little bit of success here if he came and thereās the side of me that can see how it all would end and that makes me laugh. Short term though out of those 4 heās streets ahead. Iād want none of them past this season. Must admit I don't rate Pardew at all, and he is certainly close to the bottom on my list. I actually think all the other 3 mentioned would have been better options in our position right now.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 13, 2019 11:43:21 GMT
Is Neil Warnock in a similar mould? Always seemed to do well at struggling clubs
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 13, 2019 11:49:26 GMT
Whoever it is, the club needs a heavy dose of competence and track record in its next appointment.
I wont criticise the club for having a gamble on someone like Jones but the whole experiment needs a bullet putting in it ASAP.
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Post by Absolution on Oct 13, 2019 12:39:07 GMT
I think we should heed the words of the great Alan Durban who I can remember uttering the words " If you want a circus clown for a manager, just appoint Pardew." It was something like that anyway.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 13, 2019 13:07:11 GMT
I think we should heed the words of the great Alan Durban who I can remember uttering the words " If you want a circus clown for a manager, just appoint Pardew." It was something like that anyway. Oh itād end terribly but I think heād do something short term. And I think that actually if he did well people would love him but after 3 losses there would be carnage. š
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Post by Absolution on Oct 13, 2019 13:48:34 GMT
I think we should heed the words of the great Alan Durban who I can remember uttering the words " If you want a circus clown for a manager, just appoint Pardew." It was something like that anyway. Oh itād end terribly but I think heād do something short term. And I think that actually if he did well people would love him but after 3 losses there would be carnage. š The problem is that Pardew was seen as the ultimate 'bounce' manager. If you're desperate for a short term sugar rush to get you 15 points quickly then he was seen as the man. But at West Brom it just didn't work. And you can't say he didn't have the raw materials because when Darren Moore took over from him, his results were excellent. If they'd appointed Moore instead of Pardew, the indications are that they'd have stayed up. It'd be entertaining, no doubt, but I wouldn't really want to risk it on that basis, particularly given his equally well known habit of getting into inescapably long losing streaks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 17:52:56 GMT
If we're talking international managers then Michael O'Neill deserves a conversation at least.
To think he qualified for a major international tournament with basically league one players, with one of his main strikers a converted goalkeeper, is nothing short of a miracle.
Winning tonight 3 nil away to a team that beat us convincingly on Friday.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 14, 2019 18:10:23 GMT
If we're talking international managers then Michael O'Neill deserves a conversation at least. To think he qualified for a major international tournament with basically league one players, with one of his main strikers a converted goalkeeper, is nothing short of a miracle. Winning tonight 3 nil away to a team that beat us convincingly on Friday. Good score so far, yes. However, the Czechs have rested their best players it seems.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 14, 2019 18:45:24 GMT
If we're talking international managers then Michael O'Neill deserves a conversation at least. To think he qualified for a major international tournament with basically league one players, with one of his main strikers a converted goalkeeper, is nothing short of a miracle. Winning tonight 3 nil away to a team that beat us convincingly on Friday. Iād have him here in a heartbeat.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 14, 2019 18:46:12 GMT
If we're talking international managers then Michael O'Neill deserves a conversation at least. To think he qualified for a major international tournament with basically league one players, with one of his main strikers a converted goalkeeper, is nothing short of a miracle. Winning tonight 3 nil away to a team that beat us convincingly on Friday. Iād have him here in a heartbeat. Bayern, would you have Neil Warnock?
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