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Post by kanescfc1 on Sept 29, 2019 9:50:22 GMT
Got to be
Butland
Smith Indi Bath Ward
Ince Badou (if fit) Etebo Anyone other than mcclean
Hogan Gregory
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Post by neilb987 on Sept 29, 2019 9:56:09 GMT
Ince? Not after Friday night. Nor Butland either. Agree with front two,and even back four, but would play Powell and Duffy with Etebo and Badou in midfield.
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Post by Goonie on Sept 29, 2019 9:57:08 GMT
The only change we really need is to be one Jones down on the payroll!š
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Post by kanescfc1 on Sept 29, 2019 9:59:20 GMT
Ince? Not after Friday night. Nor Butland either. Agree with front two,and even back four, but would play Powell and Duffy with Etebo and Badou in midfield. But ince as a rm is 10 times better than ince at rcm in a 41212, we arenāt currently overloaded with wingers which makes verlinden getting loaned out even more bizarre
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2019 10:02:37 GMT
Ward has been shocking
Left back is a nightmare
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 29, 2019 10:10:54 GMT
Butland is a liability and McClean is one of the few players who has actually put in a proper shift in every game - and is the only left winger we have on the books. Which given that your side appears to be based on political rather than footballing reasons is pretty apt.
And 442. Really? It's a warm beer, Dame Vera Lynn singing the White Cliffs of Dover, back to good old Blighty, jumpers for goalposts formation. Hardly anyone at the top level plays this anymore - and for good reason. It's pedestrian, predictable and easily pulled part by teams playing a more fluid, dynamic formation. And on top of that - like it or not - the players haven't been coached to play that way either under Jones or, quite probably, previous managers.
442 isn't something ingrained in the genes of every British player - professional footballers don't simply morph naturally into a 442 unstoppable juggernaut when given the chance - like a werewolf going all woolfy at the sight of a full moon.
If you're feeling nostalgic Tuesday why not just stay in and watch a re-run of Dads Army on the telly? Personally I like these Fancy Dan continental formations. To paraphrase Peter Kay - overlapping wing backs, supplementing a dynamic, offset front 2, with late running midfielders piercing the gaps in a static back four. It's the future. I've tasted it.
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 29, 2019 10:13:44 GMT
Ward has been shocking Left back is a nightmare Another panic buy. It goes to show how difficult it can be for an established prem team to deal with relegation when you are desperately trying to balance the books because of FFP rules.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 29, 2019 10:14:30 GMT
Ward has been shocking Left back is a nightmare And nobody saw it coming! š
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 29, 2019 10:16:40 GMT
Butland is a liability and McClean is one of the few players who has actually put in a proper shift in every game - and is the only left winger we have on the books. Which given that your side appears to be based on political rather than footballing reasons is pretty apt. And 442. Really? It's a warm beer, Dame Vera Lynn singing the White Cliffs of Dover, back to good old Blighty, jumpers for goalposts formation. Hardly anyone at the top level plays this anymore - and for good reason. It's pedestrian, predictable and easily pulled part by teams playing a more fluid, dynamic formation. And on top of that - like it or not - the players haven't been coached to play that way either under Jones or, quite probably, previous managers. 442 isn't something ingrained in the genes of every British player - professional footballers don't simply morph naturally into a 442 unstoppable juggernaut when given the chance - like a werewolf going all woolfy at the sight of a full moon. If you're feeling nostalgic Tuesday why not just stay in and watch a re-run of Dads Army on the telly? Personally I like these Fancy Dan continental formations. To paraphrase Peter Kay - overlapping wing backs, supplementing a dynamic, offset front 2, with late running midfielders piercing the gaps in a static back four. It's the future. I've tasted it. Campbell should be playing on the left wing every game in my opinion. I would rather him up front but i think he would be best used in that position at the moment.
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2019 10:22:45 GMT
Butland is a liability and McClean is one of the few players who has actually put in a proper shift in every game - and is the only left winger we have on the books. Which given that your side appears to be based on political rather than footballing reasons is pretty apt. And 442. Really? It's a warm beer, Dame Vera Lynn singing the White Cliffs of Dover, back to good old Blighty, jumpers for goalposts formation. Hardly anyone at the top level plays this anymore - and for good reason. It's pedestrian, predictable and easily pulled part by teams playing a more fluid, dynamic formation. And on top of that - like it or not - the players haven't been coached to play that way either under Jones or, quite probably, previous managers. 442 isn't something ingrained in the genes of every British player - professional footballers don't simply morph naturally into a 442 unstoppable juggernaut when given the chance - like a werewolf going all woolfy at the sight of a full moon. If you're feeling nostalgic Tuesday why not just stay in and watch a re-run of Dads Army on the telly? Personally I like these Fancy Dan continental formations. To paraphrase Peter Kay - overlapping wing backs, supplementing a dynamic, offset front 2, with late running midfielders piercing the gaps in a static back four. It's the future. I've tasted it. Not quite right We do have an incredibly talented left winger on the books, skills,dribbles, great crosser. Get him back in January
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 29, 2019 10:28:21 GMT
Federici
Smith CCV (should be Collins, why no appeal?) Bruno Clucas
Ince (who else is there?) Etebo Badou (is he OK?) McClean
Powell/Duffy
Gregory
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 10:28:36 GMT
Anyone who would pick Butland and Ward is not watching the games. The Sun reckon Butland has been directly responsible for 6 goals in his 8 appearances this season.That sounds about right.It's a shocking statistic.
I can't see beyond Bruno at left back,he's the best of a bad bunch. Edwards needs taking out of the firing line so Smith has to come back in unfortunately
Federici Smith CCV Batth Bruno Ince Ndiaye Etebo McClean Campbell Hogan/Gregory
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2019 10:32:56 GMT
Anyone who would pick Butland and Ward is not watching the games. The Sun reckon Butland has been directly responsible for 6 goals in his 8 appearances this season.That sounds about right.It's a shocking statistic. I can't see beyond Bruno at left back,he's the best of a bad bunch. Edwards needs taking out of the firing line so Smith has to come back in unfortunately Federici SmithĀ CCV BatthĀ Bruno Ince Ndiaye Etebo McClean Campbell Hogan/Gregory Carter Vickers is fucking awful though and for me a bigger problem than McClean. Neither are ideal though.
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2019 10:33:12 GMT
Anyone who would pick Butland and Ward is not watching the games. The Sun reckon Butland has been directly responsible for 6 goals in his 8 appearances this season.That sounds about right.It's a shocking statistic. I can't see beyond Bruno at left back,he's the best of a bad bunch. Edwards needs taking out of the firing line so Smith has to come back in unfortunately Federici SmithĀ CCV BatthĀ Bruno Ince Ndiaye Etebo McClean Campbell Hogan/Gregory Seven goals if you include the one away at Leeds in the cup Butland was a very good keeper He's having the season from hell Obviously he has to be dropped for a long spell Sadly Federici isn't very good Maybe the new Manager will play Davies?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 29, 2019 10:34:02 GMT
Anyone who would pick Butland and Ward is not watching the games. The Sun reckon Butland has been directly responsible for 6 goals in his 8 appearances this season.That sounds about right.It's a shocking statistic. I can't see beyond Bruno at left back,he's the best of a bad bunch. Edwards needs taking out of the firing line so Smith has to come back in unfortunately Federici SmithĀ CCV BatthĀ Bruno Ince Ndiaye Etebo McClean Campbell Hogan/Gregory Seven goals if you include the one away at Leeds in the cup Butland was a very good keeper He's having the season from hell Obviously he has to be dropped for a long spell Sadly Federici isn't very good Maybe the new Manager will play Davies? Is that...is that a poem Lord?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2019 10:35:27 GMT
Anyone who would pick Butland and Ward is not watching the games. The Sun reckon Butland has been directly responsible for 6 goals in his 8 appearances this season.That sounds about right.It's a shocking statistic. I can't see beyond Bruno at left back,he's the best of a bad bunch. Edwards needs taking out of the firing line so Smith has to come back in unfortunately Federici SmithĀ CCV BatthĀ Bruno Ince Ndiaye Etebo McClean Campbell Hogan/Gregory Seven goals if you include the one away at Leeds in the cup Butland was a very good keeper He's having the season from hell Obviously he has to be dropped for a long spell Sadly Federici isn't very good Maybe the new Manager will play Davies? Davies is much worse than Federici.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 29, 2019 10:39:40 GMT
Butland is a liability and McClean is one of the few players who has actually put in a proper shift in every game - and is the only left winger we have on the books. Which given that your side appears to be based on political rather than footballing reasons is pretty apt. And 442. Really? It's a warm beer, Dame Vera Lynn singing the White Cliffs of Dover, back to good old Blighty, jumpers for goalposts formation. Hardly anyone at the top level plays this anymore - and for good reason. It's pedestrian, predictable and easily pulled part by teams playing a more fluid, dynamic formation. And on top of that - like it or not - the players haven't been coached to play that way either under Jones or, quite probably, previous managers. 442 isn't something ingrained in the genes of every British player - professional footballers don't simply morph naturally into a 442 unstoppable juggernaut when given the chance - like a werewolf going all woolfy at the sight of a full moon. If you're feeling nostalgic Tuesday why not just stay in and watch a re-run of Dads Army on the telly? Personally I like these Fancy Dan continental formations. To paraphrase Peter Kay - overlapping wing backs, supplementing a dynamic, offset front 2, with late running midfielders piercing the gaps in a static back four. It's the future. I've tasted it. Not quite right We do have an incredibly talented left winger on the books, skills,dribbles, great crosser. Get him back in January I didn't mention Verlinden simply because he isn't available on Tuesday - which is what the OP is talking about. From what I've seen Verlinden has a future and if we have a manager who adjust the formation to accommodate someone wide left I'd have him competing for a spot. However given we're playing without a traditional left winger the decision to loan out Verlinden was a perfectly sound decision.
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 29, 2019 10:40:16 GMT
Butland Smith CCV Batth Indi Ndiaye Etebo Ince Powell Campbell Gregory
4-2-3-1
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Post by supacoopa101 on Sept 29, 2019 10:40:17 GMT
Ward has been shocking Left back is a nightmare And nobody saw it coming! š And this is the sole reason NJ and our recruitment team should be shown no mercy. The complete negligence in not even trying to get a left back in the summer. How many left backs were we generally interested in?....and no Stephen Ward does not count.
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Post by kanescfc1 on Sept 29, 2019 10:54:13 GMT
Butland Smith CCV Batth Indi Ndiaye Etebo Ince Powell Campbell Gregory 4-2-3-1 Yeah donāt mind a 4231 however ccv is fucking shit
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 10:57:13 GMT
Federici
Smith - Baath - BMI - Clucas Ndiaye - Etebo
Ince - Powell - McClean Gregory
I mean I don't want to play Ince but who else do we actually have as an option really, maybe could lash Campbell out there and just see what he can do with his pace I suppose.
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Post by kanescfc1 on Sept 29, 2019 11:05:18 GMT
Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Federici Smith - Baath - BMI - Clucas Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ndiaye - Etebo Ā Ā Ā Ince - Powell - McClean Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Gregory I mean I don't want to play Ince but who else do we actually have as an option really, maybe could lash Campbell out there and just see what he can do with his pace I suppose. Rather put him in left McClean canāt cross for toffee n could potentially see clucas at left back although donāt feel ward did too bad at Leeds in cup
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 11:06:28 GMT
Federici Smith - Baath - BMI - Clucas Ndiaye - Etebo Ince - Powell - McClean Gregory I mean I don't want to play Ince but who else do we actually have as an option really, maybe could lash Campbell out there and just see what he can do with his pace I suppose. Rather put him in left McClean canāt cross for toffee n could potentially see clucas at left back although donāt feel ward did too bad at Leeds in cup McClean, Gregory, Etebo and N'Diaye are our best players by a mile right now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2019 11:07:40 GMT
Rather put him in left McClean canāt cross for toffee n could potentially see clucas at left back although donāt feel ward did too bad at Leeds in cup McClean, Gregory, Etebo and N'Diaye are our best players by a mile right now. The first two are awful.
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 29, 2019 11:09:41 GMT
Butland Smith CCV Batth Indi Ndiaye Etebo Ince Powell Campbell Gregory 4-2-3-1 Yeah donāt mind a 4231 however ccv is fucking shit We need Shawcross back desperately, it is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 11:10:26 GMT
McClean, Gregory, Etebo and N'Diaye are our best players by a mile right now. The first two are awful. So is every alternative, why we got rid of Verlinden I cannot comprehend.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2019 11:12:32 GMT
So is every alternative, why we got rid of Verlinden I cannot comprehend. To a point yes. Pieters died for this.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 29, 2019 11:17:00 GMT
Like Jones and the players I have no idea what formation they will use on Tuesday night. Same as every other game.
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Post by linfitstokie on Sept 29, 2019 11:17:03 GMT
Federici Smith - Baath - BMI - Clucas Ndiaye - Etebo Ince - Powell - McClean Gregory I mean I don't want to play Ince but who else do we actually have as an option really, maybe could lash Campbell out there and just see what he can do with his pace I suppose. move mciean across to the right and piay cambell left.Mclean played a bit on the right last season and did well
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 11:18:56 GMT
How many times do I have to get annoyed at people calling for 442?
We. Have. Never. Played. Well. With. 442.
We don't even have a fucking winger that isn't Ince? Our team hasn't been suited to 442 for years, and this is the least suited by far.
We played well in the diamond on Friday. Switch Ince for Hogan, Butland out, Edwards out, the rest is fine.
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