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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2019 8:35:32 GMT
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 29, 2019 8:37:05 GMT
Let's bloody hope so, save our stoke
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 8:40:22 GMT
A very sad ending to something that, on paper, looked thoroughly exciting. It has to happen though, I'm devastated and was probably in the Jones In club for much longer than most, but even in my wildest dreams I don't envisage how Jones can salvage this.
Moyes would be a good option. Might not be a great manager but would certainly get a tune out of this squad in this division. Not that long ago many of us were scoffing at the thought of Bilic taking over post-hughes but look at the job he's doing right now.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 29, 2019 8:40:32 GMT
The sooner the better!  |
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Post by thevoid on Sept 29, 2019 8:41:26 GMT
Walking the mile. Walking the Green Mile.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 29, 2019 8:48:07 GMT
Good news but still makes absolutely no sense to let him take a lost dressing room into a must win game on Tuesday. Get him sacked, give it to Delap or even Russell. There must be someone at the club these selfish bastard players respect.
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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2019 8:48:48 GMT
Just seen this is on the managers odds thread so delete if it’s not deemed a story on its own 👍
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Post by march4 on Sept 29, 2019 8:53:49 GMT
I could have written that article after reading posts on this board.
Sounds a bit speculative to me.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 29, 2019 8:54:11 GMT
We need someone in charge on Tuesday who can pick a team.
You see that back line he picked against Forest, utterly ridiculous.
The fucking about he's done just with the backline is probably the biggest problem.
He's actually found the solution to midfield, getting badou onside is the best thing he's done. If he'd just decided on a proper back four and trusted his most experienced centre backs and full backs I think we'd have ground out a couple of wins in the last few games.
It's a basic confusion clouding his judgement
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Post by sportsman on Sept 29, 2019 8:57:17 GMT
I think he was told before the forest game to win or that's it. I think he was also asked that if we did lose, rather than being straight sacked would he then carry on until possibly the international break after next weekend in a caretaker role. I can't imagine him refusing that.
To help stop the hysteria, names and the situation would be filtered out to allow a more peaceful next home game and possibly swansea game while things are negotiated with new manager.
That's how I see it now.
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Post by pavel on Sept 29, 2019 8:57:34 GMT
Jones can have no complaints, the owners and the fans have been extremely patient with him. He’s had wonderful support considering the absolute train wreck of his tenure.
However it’s still hard to watch a manager implode and come apart at the seams as he has. Hopefully he will learn from his experience and be better for it.
It Is surely now in everybody’s interest that we get clarity from the board and he is put out of his misery before the next game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2019 8:58:47 GMT
Why hasn’t he been sacked already?
It makes no sense at all.
Staying up from this point will be a miracle. And we need to aid that miracle the best we can by getting rid of the useless fucker.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 29, 2019 9:01:11 GMT
Moyes did a great job at Preston and Everton.
Would be surprised if he came here at this point in time.
We could quite easily end his career in management.
But I'd prefer him over Hughton.
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Post by smudger46 on Sept 29, 2019 9:02:28 GMT
whoever comes in will need to rule these so called professional footballers with a rod of iron. probably count the ones who give a toss about scfc on one hand
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Post by wuzza on Sept 29, 2019 9:04:02 GMT
I feel very sorry for Jones and if the inevitable does happen I think he may well go on to prove to be an excellent manager.
However he needs young players on the up to deal with in a club able to accommodate a long term project. We never were such a club. We needed a quickish fix which is why we should have gone for an experienced man. Someone amongst the ownership bought into a rather idealistic notion that was totally unsuitable for our predicament as a recently relegated established PL club.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 29, 2019 9:04:20 GMT
Moyes failed badly at Sunderland in a similar situation would be my concern and didn’t want it previously .
Hughton has more recent promotions at Norwich , Newcastle and Brighton so
In CV terms I think He is stronger he is also saved Brighton from a similar mess .
Candidly is be surprised if either will touch it .
Que the one who will .
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 29, 2019 9:06:10 GMT
If he’s lost the dressing room he’s got to go today not after Tuesday,what’s the point🙄We need to win this game and prolonging his stay makes the chances of that a lot slimmer imo
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2019 9:07:06 GMT
If he’s lost the dressing room he’s got to go today not after Tuesday,what’s the point🙄We need to win this game and prolonging his stay makes the chances of that a lot slimmer imo Why anyone wouldn’t want him sacked immediately I do not know. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 29, 2019 9:08:24 GMT
If he’s lost the dressing room he’s got to go today not after Tuesday,what’s the point🙄We need to win this game and prolonging his stay makes the chances of that a lot slimmer imo Why anyone wouldn’t want him sacked immediately I do not know. Youve seen that Knot FM poll haven’t you where 46% so far want him to stay😮Absolute madness |
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Post by neddy on Sept 29, 2019 9:09:54 GMT
If he’s lost the dressing room he’s got to go today not after Tuesday,what’s the point🙄We need to win this game and prolonging his stay makes the chances of that a lot slimmer imo Why anyone wouldn’t want him sacked immediately I do not know. In my view his demise will in the main be caused by completely getting the two full back situations wrong along with some bad luck re Shawcross but his time is sadly up. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 29, 2019 9:12:55 GMT
Why anyone wouldn’t want him sacked immediately I do not know. Youve seen that Knot FM poll haven’t you where 46% so far want him to stay😮Absolute madness Yeah it’s crazy. What more do they want? The bloke is fighting with Kamara for the worst ever stakes and they still want him here. |
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Post by djduncanjames on Sept 29, 2019 9:13:02 GMT
I could have written that article after reading posts on this board. Sounds a bit speculative to me.  could you have though Marchy  March4 march4Sunday Mirror colleagues reporting end is nigh for Nathan Jones at #SCFC & Tony Pulis among candidates. From what i have heard, Jones lost dressing room & is dead man walking. Know the Coates have approached Pulis previously & the Welshman or Tony Pulis look a good fit imo. |
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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2019 9:13:49 GMT
Moyes failed badly at Sunderland in a similar situation would be my concern and didn’t want it previously . Hughton has more recent promotions at Norwich , Newcastle and Brighton so In CV terms I think He is stronger he is also saved Brighton from a similar mess . Candidly is be surprised if either will touch it . Que the one who will . Moyes was shafted by his chairman in regards financial backing within weeks of taking the job The two scenarios are poles apart |
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 29, 2019 9:16:04 GMT
Good news but still makes absolutely no sense to let him take a lost dressing into a must win game on Tuesday. Get him sacked, give it to Delap or even Russell. There must be someone at the club these selfish bastard players respect. Unless they're going for a Monday morning sacking, yeah it just doesn't make sense giving him the Tuesday match. Still completely bonkers to me. No doubt we'll have people on stand watch on Tuesday seeing if Moyes or Hughton are in the stands |
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Post by djduncanjames on Sept 29, 2019 9:16:34 GMT
Why anyone wouldn’t want him sacked immediately I do not know. Youve seen that Knot FM poll haven’t you where 46% so far want him to stay😮Absolute madness wtf ?? what poll is it on here ? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 29, 2019 9:17:44 GMT
Youve seen that Knot FM poll haven’t you where 46% so far want him to stay😮Absolute madness wtf ?? what poll is it on here ? I don’t know mate to be honest |
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Post by milky on Sept 29, 2019 9:19:10 GMT
If he’s lost the dressing room he’s got to go today not after Tuesday,what’s the point🙄We need to win this game and prolonging his stay makes the chances of that a lot slimmer imo Why anyone wouldn’t want him sacked immediately I do not know. Mental isnt it if its true that he has lost the respect of the players ? Maybe Jon is trying to get hold of his mate from 365 for recommendations ! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 9:19:58 GMT
To be honest, I think that seems like guesswork. It certainly hasn't looked like Jones has lost the dressing room to me. Players looked like they were playing for him on Friday. Tom Edwards looked like he was playing for Jones so much he was terrified of making a mistake.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 29, 2019 9:22:06 GMT
If he’s lost the dressing room he’s got to go today not after Tuesday,what’s the point🙄We need to win this game and prolonging his stay makes the chances of that a lot slimmer imo He's gone no doubt. But I didn't see he'd lost the dressing room on friday night. They maybe were not entirely playing for him, but were certainly not playing to get him out either. He pretty much accepted the situation after the game. Tuesday is still important and if the players can show the same effort on Tuesday and we win, then he can go either after that or during the international break. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 29, 2019 9:24:40 GMT
Moyes failed badly at Sunderland in a similar situation would be my concern and didn’t want it previously . Hughton has more recent promotions at Norwich , Newcastle and Brighton so In CV terms I think He is stronger he is also saved Brighton from a similar mess . Candidly is be surprised if either will touch it . Que the one who will . Moyes was shafted by his chairman in regards financial backing within weeks of taking the job The two scenarios are poles apart Werrigton He won’t have a blank cheque book here Scholes and co have used the financial fire power we had and FFP will see we we now have to play on a level playing field precisely why I don’t think he’s touch it |
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could you have though Marchy 
