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Post by slother on Sept 27, 2019 21:57:57 GMT
No one said that when the teamsheet came out Bayern. He wasn’t in the team I wanted to start. I'll take your word for it but for all the people slating the selection of Butland now - literally no one mentioned it prior to kick off.
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Post by mrred on Sept 28, 2019 4:21:17 GMT
Cost us the game as far as I'm concerned. We know these spineless fucks can't deal with conceding so to fumble a simple ball like that- unforgivable really. Especially given the number of points he's thrown away for us.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 28, 2019 5:26:28 GMT
He wasn’t in the team I wanted to start. I'll take your word for it but for all the people slating the selection of Butland now - literally no one mentioned it prior to kick off. In fairness, I am pretty sure Bayern said Butland shouldn't be playing in another thread.
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Post by emery1985 on Sept 28, 2019 5:32:49 GMT
I can’t wait till Butland goes to be honest. He must be on mad money.
He’s got to go.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Sept 28, 2019 5:34:17 GMT
Time to be a forgiving man for whatever the reason Nath & let Davies start!
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Post by emery1985 on Sept 28, 2019 5:36:21 GMT
He wasn’t in the team I wanted to start. I'll take your word for it but for all the people slating the selection of Butland now - literally no one mentioned it prior to kick off. To be fair, - personally, I’ve given up slating his selection because it happens every week regardless. Whining about Butland being in the team is like a broken record skipping. My god we are a in a horrendous mess.
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Post by steewee on Sept 28, 2019 5:53:20 GMT
I still can't forgive him patting the ball in the net against Leicester.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 28, 2019 6:02:32 GMT
Time to be a forgiving man for whatever the reason Nath & let Davies start! I hope he won't be picking any more more at all!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2019 6:04:30 GMT
I'll take your word for it but for all the people slating the selection of Butland now - literally no one mentioned it prior to kick off. In fairness, I am pretty sure Bayern said Butland shouldn't be playing in another thread. I think him being selected is up there with some of the worst bits of man management I’ve seen. He’s back in the team because he scored a penalty ffs.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 28, 2019 6:18:35 GMT
I like Jack but hes having a terrible time of it.
As normal we watched the warm up and the confident clean handling of everything has long since disappeared.
He had a mare in last nights warm up. I know it's only a warm up but it's a sign of things to come and where a player is at.
Jack just looks like the shell of what he was. He was there but he wasnt really there if you get me. His demeanour has totally changed from last season and seasons before. He was still great with my little lad as he always is, but he looks down. He isnt his normal chirpy self.
Whoever comes in as new manager has to take Jack out of the firing line for a month or so and see if we can get him back to his best.
We know Federici is crap so they simply have to give Davies a chance to show how good or bad he is.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 28, 2019 6:45:28 GMT
I like Jack but hes having a terrible time of it. As normal we watched the warm up and the confident clean handling of everything has long since disappeared. He had a mare in last nights warm up. I know it's only a warm up but it's a sign of things to come and where a player is at. Jack just looks like the shell of what he was. He was there but he wasnt really there if you get me. His demeanour has totally changed from last season and seasons before. He was still great with my little lad as he always is, but he looks down. He isnt his normal chirpy self. Whoever comes in as new manager has to take Jack out of the firing line for a month or so and see if we can get him back to his best. We know Federici is crap so they simply have to give Davies a chance to show how good or bad he is. Don’t think anybody would agree with that statement dj. Didn’t put a foot wrong in games he’s played which I know aren’t that many. 250 games for Reading in PL and Championship over seven seasons plus 26 caps for Ozz at various# levels. Yeh he must be crap
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Post by bossthemidfield on Sept 28, 2019 6:54:00 GMT
Jack has cost us dearly this season... far too many times now. If he was an outfield player he would be benched or dropped. His head is not right and more importantly he looks like he doesn’t want to be here!
To mention just one other... Tom Edwards was shocking... apart from a spell in the first half, very poor tonight.... can’t tackle or simply just put the ball out of danger, didn’t seem to want to go forward, crossing was in the main shit... at one point in the second half he just stood there and watched the ball go out when he could have kept it in... no fucking desire!
Easy to blame the manager BUT the players need to man up and show some fucking fight.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 28, 2019 7:08:54 GMT
Have the opposition had a shot at our goal this season that hasn't ended up in the back of the net? I genuinely can't think of a single save Jack Butland has made, it seems to be the case that so long as our opponents get their shot on target, they'll score.
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Post by bossthemidfield on Sept 28, 2019 7:11:55 GMT
Have the opposition had a shot at our goal this season that hasn't ended up in the back of the net? I genuinely can't think of a single save Jack Butland has made, it seems to be the case that so long as our opponents get their shot on target, they'll score. Preston being a prime example!
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 28, 2019 7:12:44 GMT
Have the opposition had a shot at our goal this season that hasn't ended up in the back of the net? I genuinely can't think of a single save Jack Butland has made, it seems to be the case that so long as our opponents get their shot on target, they'll score. I agree, Butlands like a Hauugard tribute act. He's been shocking and I really believe his career is in jeopardy if he's not taken out of the firing line.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 28, 2019 7:21:42 GMT
What a fucking lemon our keeper is. Get shot ASAP. There are NO positives about keeping Jones!
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 28, 2019 7:29:32 GMT
Time to be a forgiving man for whatever the reason Nath & let Davies start! He was League 1 keeper of the year last season, so he clearly isn’t bad.
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 28, 2019 7:30:54 GMT
Have the opposition had a shot at our goal this season that hasn't ended up in the back of the net? I genuinely can't think of a single save Jack Butland has made, it seems to be the case that so long as our opponents get their shot on target, they'll score. Last night's match stats according to BBC: Home TeamStokeAway TeamNottm Forest Possession Home57%Away43% Shots Home23Away6 Shots on Target Home8Away4 Corners Home9Away3 Fouls Home9Away16 Stats don't win matches but backs up the point about teams not needing many shots on target to score the goals they do. As a further example, Charlton: Home TeamCharltonAway TeamStoke Possession Home46%Away54% Shots Home5Away12 Shots on Target Home3Away3 Corners Home1Away4 Fouls Home10Away11 Not sure how to get these for the season to date, I presume there is away and someone will find it to post it ... would be interesting to see.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 28, 2019 7:31:08 GMT
Jones will be gone today. He has to be now even I can see it's time. He knows it as well by last night's interview.
Calling for a change of manager after 2 or 3 games though for any manager is fucking stupid I don't care who he is. Shit support.
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Post by mamasgloves on Sept 28, 2019 7:37:44 GMT
Fucking boils my piss to watch Jones getting mentally destroyed because he just can’t resolve the persistent errors which are costing us points on a weekly basis...these fucking prima donnas on 10’s of thousands a week are killing us, aside from the mistake yet again we’ve played well He's the one that picks him?
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Sept 28, 2019 7:50:04 GMT
Time to be a forgiving man for whatever the reason Nath & let Davies start! He was League 1 keeper of the year last season, so he clearly isn’t bad. The rate were going he will be a league 1 keeper next season too
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Post by Davef on Sept 28, 2019 7:57:35 GMT
Jones will be gone today. He has to be now even I can see it's time. He knows it as well by last night's interview. Calling for a change of manager after 2 or 3 games though for any manager is fucking stupid I don't care who he is. Shit support. Two or three games? What planet are you on? He hasn't won one of his last ten HOME games!!!! Even the 1984/85 team didn't manage that at a level higher.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 28, 2019 7:59:48 GMT
Jones will be gone today. He has to be now even I can see it's time. He knows it as well by last night's interview. Calling for a change of manager after 2 or 3 games though for any manager is fucking stupid I don't care who he is. Shit support. Two or three games? What planet are you on? He hasn't won one of his last ten HOME games!!!! Even the 1984/85 team didn't manage that at a level higher. New season with half a new squad, trying to implement a new philosophy you allow a bedding in period. I think he has tried to keep a large squad happy, lost his way and it's cost him. It's still shit support but it's what we have come to expect now.
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Post by adi on Sept 28, 2019 8:01:43 GMT
Up to their goal we looked quality. I feel so sorry for Nathan Jones. So do i, he's got some utterly fucking wank players on his hands. I'd be happy if (mainly but not exclusivly) Butland, Ince, Mcclean never play for Stoke again. I'm not far off chucking Edwards in that group aswell. Wankers. Edwards is awful. Unpopular opinion because he’s a youth player but he isn’t nearly good enough. Granted lots of other players are shit too but he is crap.
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Post by Davef on Sept 28, 2019 8:01:47 GMT
Two or three games? What planet are you on? He hasn't won one of his last ten HOME games!!!! Even the 1984/85 team didn't manage that at a level higher. New season with half a new squad, trying to implement a new philosophy you allow a bedding in period. I think he has tried to keep a large squad happy, lost his way and it's cost him. The Forest manager was appointed in the summer. He has that sorry shower of shit, with Sammy Ameobi leading the line, top of the league. You keep happy clapping.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 28, 2019 8:03:34 GMT
New season with half a new squad, trying to implement a new philosophy you allow a bedding in period. I think he has tried to keep a large squad happy, lost his way and it's cost him. The Forest manager was appointed in the summer. He has that sorry shower of shit, with Sammy Ameobi leading the line, top of the league. You keep happy clapping. Still shit support, the club is poison from board level to message boards. Anyone worth their salt wanting to come here now needs their head testing
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Post by wuzza on Sept 28, 2019 8:03:48 GMT
I still can't forgive him patting the ball in the net against Leicester. I’ve always felt we might just have turned it around that season if that hadn’t happened.
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Post by adi on Sept 28, 2019 8:05:00 GMT
Jones will be gone today. He has to be now even I can see it's time. He knows it as well by last night's interview. Calling for a change of manager after 2 or 3 games though for any manager is fucking stupid I don't care who he is. Shit support. Welcome to the Jones Out brigade.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 28, 2019 8:05:40 GMT
New season with half a new squad, trying to implement a new philosophy you allow a bedding in period. I think he has tried to keep a large squad happy, lost his way and it's cost him. The Forest manager was appointed in the summer. He has that sorry shower of shit, with Sammy Ameobi leading the line, top of the league. You keep happy clapping. Was ameobi very good or Tom Edwards really shit?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 28, 2019 8:06:02 GMT
Jones will be gone today. He has to be now even I can see it's time. He knows it as well by last night's interview. Calling for a change of manager after 2 or 3 games though for any manager is fucking stupid I don't care who he is. Shit support. Welcome to the Jones Out brigade. Please don't associate me with them, they'll be on the next managers case too from the get go.
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