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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 9:28:25 GMT
33 games 11 wins Chic Bates Oh how we dream of a third win ratio under Jonah Jones He has certainly dragged us down since he arrived here, people feeling sorry for him should open their eyes he's very well paid to do a job he can't do !
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Post by senojbor on Sept 28, 2019 9:32:24 GMT
Lambert, Rowett and Jones are not all bad managers. Blame the idiots who run the club. Had any of those had taken over when the club was on a high instead of a decline I'm sure they would do a good job.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 28, 2019 9:32:40 GMT
I'm still staggered that this Andy Quy character is a Goalkeeping coach of high reputation. I just cant see it on the pitch at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 9:37:51 GMT
Don't know about stats, but this feels like its right up there with the most depressing times to be a Stoke fan. Our club is on a downward spiral as big as any I can remember, and it feels worse because our owners are so wealthy this time around. We are an absolute shit show and it's all completely avoidable.
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Post by Goonie on Sept 28, 2019 9:37:53 GMT
Funny how quickly we've all forgotten cuddly old Paul Lambert. It's only due to how shockingly things have gone since then that he avoids challenging Kamara as our worst manager in living memory. Kamara was the worst on stats alone, But Nj is right there with him but over a lot more games than Kamara which kind of puts him bang there in the no1 spot for me. No other manager has come close to their stats..... I'd piss myself if Jones told the press he just needed a bit more time turn it around! Jones is Stoke's answer to Nick Leeson who brought down Bearings Bank!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 9:39:55 GMT
Lambert, Rowett and Jones are not all bad managers. Blame the idiots who run the club. Had any of those had taken over when the club was on a high instead of a decline I'm sure they would do a good job. Have you heard Liam Lawrence's comments on P&G last night ?, Lambert was not a bad manager just wrong appointment with the time he had left, Rowett was not as bad as Jones who frankly has been a disaster for the club.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 28, 2019 9:42:40 GMT
It's got to be this plum, he's had the chance to build his own team with the backing of the board. Kamara inherited a shoe-string group left by Bates, Ball came in to a side rock bottom and did at least have an alright start to the third division season, Bates was the cheap option as most of the money went into the stadium and Little came into a club low on confidence with his hands tied behind his back.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 9:42:55 GMT
Kamara was the worst on stats alone, But Nj is right there with him but over a lot more games than Kamara which kind of puts him bang there in the no1 spot for me. No other manager has come close to their stats..... I'd piss myself if Jones told the press he just needed a bit more time turn it around! Jones is Stoke's answer to Nick Leeson who brought down Bearings Bank! "We're so close to been a very good team" ermmm no we really are not we are a very poor team that has been poorly managed.
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Post by Goonie on Sept 28, 2019 9:46:40 GMT
I'd piss myself if Jones told the press he just needed a bit more time turn it around! Jones is Stoke's answer to Nick Leeson who brought down Bearings Bank! "We're so close to been a very good team" ermmm no we really are not we are a very poor team that has been poorly managed. He took a mediocre Championship team and turned it into a mediocre Division 2 team: we couldn't beat Crawley!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 10:09:09 GMT
"We're so close to been a very good team" ermmm no we really are not we are a very poor team that has been poorly managed. He took a mediocre Championship team and turned it into a mediocre Division 2 team: we couldn't beat Crawley! I would wager he will never manage at this level again, his CV is pretty much fcuked mostly self inflicted, he talks a division above his stature that has been a big part of his downfall. He will need to drop down at least one division (hopefully not with us) to rebuild his reputation, maybe a 12 month break from football is what he needs, I have said this before and still stick by it his mental health is a concern for me.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 28, 2019 10:20:16 GMT
With our squad and the backing he has got I would say Jones is the worst ever! What are we waiting for? Even if we beat Nottingham 5-0 he should GO! Got to agree with you but unfortunately this board won't do anything unless we loose and the fans are extremely vocal about him going So you think the fans should drive Jones out then? Where do we gather - or just go for it all around the stadium?
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 10:29:27 GMT
Got to agree with you but unfortunately this board won't do anything unless we loose and the fans are extremely vocal about him going So you think the fans should drive Jones out then? Where do we gather - or just go for it all around the stadium? The support what is left of it last night were right behind the team and Jones !, they were repaid with yet another loss how much longer do you think the club should give Jones to turn it around ?
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Post by Goonie on Sept 28, 2019 11:17:46 GMT
He took a mediocre Championship team and turned it into a mediocre Division 2 team: we couldn't beat Crawley! I would wager he will never manage at this level again, his CV is pretty much fcuked mostly self inflicted, he talks a division above his stature that has been a big part of his downfall. He will need to drop down at least one division (hopefully not with us) to rebuild his reputation, maybe a 12 month break from football is what he needs, I have said this before and still stick by it his mental health is a concern for me. His belief system has hit the wall of reality with disastrous consequences!
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Post by Goonie on Sept 28, 2019 11:56:44 GMT
He took a mediocre Championship team and turned it into a mediocre Division 2 team: we couldn't beat Crawley! I would wager he will never manage at this level again, his CV is pretty much fcuked mostly self inflicted, he talks a division above his stature that has been a big part of his downfall. He will need to drop down at least one division (hopefully not with us) to rebuild his reputation, maybe a 12 month break from football is what he needs, I have said this before and still stick by it his mental health is a concern for me. His belief system has hit the wall of reality with disastrous consequences!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 11:58:32 GMT
I'm still staggered that this Andy Quy character is a Goalkeeping coach of high reputation. I just cant see it on the pitch at all. I don't know if he had any say in the lunatic idea of selling lee grant for pennies , and keeping jack butland
but that's a whopper along the lines of selling Pieters for pennies and bringing in Stephen ward .
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 12:09:24 GMT
I'm still staggered that this Andy Quy character is a Goalkeeping coach of high reputation. I just cant see it on the pitch at all. I don't know if he had any say in the lunatic idea of selling lee grant for pennies , and keeping jack butland
but that's a whopper along the lines of selling Pieters for pennies and bringing in Stephen ward .
Another masterstroke from the manager, along with releasing Bojan and replacing him with sick note Nick.
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Post by march4 on Sept 28, 2019 12:13:30 GMT
We have a performance analyst why ? Fucking hell I could do that job. report: fucking shit mr jones If that’s bad then what about our Sports Analyst?
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Post by march4 on Sept 28, 2019 12:17:56 GMT
Got to agree with you but unfortunately this board won't do anything unless we loose and the fans are extremely vocal about him going So you think the fans should drive Jones out then? Where do we gather - or just go for it all around the stadium? Interesting how many stewards came out from 85 minutes onwards last night. Were they expecting some sort of pitch invasion? It is more a case of us all being resigned to the poor position we are in and think that sacking Jones is such an obvious decision it doesn’t need us to make things worse.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 12:21:13 GMT
So you think the fans should drive Jones out then? Where do we gather - or just go for it all around the stadium? Interesting how many stewards came out from 85 minutes onwards last night. Were they expecting some sort of pitch invasion? It is more a case of us all being resigned to the poor position we are in and think that sacking Jones is such an obvious decision it doesn’t need us to make things worse. That may well change against Huddersfield.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 28, 2019 16:30:14 GMT
So you think the fans should drive Jones out then? Where do we gather - or just go for it all around the stadium? The support what is left of it last night were right behind the team and Jones !, they were repaid with yet another loss how much longer do you think the club should give Jones to turn it around ? As the poster said - the owners are going to stick with Jones - its up to us fans to get rid of him. Can't you read? Anyway. Tuesday. Block 12. For the fans,
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Post by Godo on Sept 28, 2019 19:36:50 GMT
Jones has a 12.1% win ratio with us. When we went down under Kamara we had a much smaller squad, lots of loan players and a squad on shorter contracts. If we go down with this massive squad of journeymen like Vokes, Cousins, Smith etc that Jones has saddled us with - many still with 3+ years on their contracts and on big wages - the financial repercussions could be disastrous. So his failure hasn't only been on the pitch.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2019 20:56:07 GMT
The support what is left of it last night were right behind the team and Jones !, they were repaid with yet another loss how much longer do you think the club should give Jones to turn it around ? As the poster said - the owners are going to stick with Jones - its up to us fans to get rid of him. Can't you read? Anyway. Tuesday. Block 12. For the fans, I can read I can also see what is going on unlike some idiots who constantly blame our supporters for our piss poor managers failings, is that an invite block 12 again simple question how much longer do you think the club should give Jones to turn it around ? simple enough question even for yourself.
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Post by mattyd on Sept 28, 2019 21:04:45 GMT
Quiterill…..Just for being himself...UTTER CUNT
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 2, 2019 6:25:11 GMT
Last night pretty much confirmed it for me Nathan Jones take a bow the worst manager we have ever had
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Post by foster on Oct 2, 2019 6:45:56 GMT
Never criticised him but never liked him either. Nothing about him has ever made me think that he has anything about him. The way he talks, the way he acts, the way he conducts himself, the way he manages the team, the tactics and he uses, his constant weird face and mouth touching. He's just an irritating prick.
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