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Post by bingbang on Sept 25, 2019 9:10:40 GMT
I see someone has started a thread about voting with your feet. Well this season after having a season ticket for the best part of 54 years I decided enough was enough and decided not to renew along with friends I have sat with for years. I decided I would still go to the games but on my own terms, not feeling I had to go because I had a season ticket. I also said I would still go to the away games because of the away day out, good company and a good few scoops. So far I have only been to one away game and two home games and let me tell you I don’t miss going in the slightest. I can’t believe how this club have totally knocked everything I loved about “ my club “ out of me. This runs much deeper than the manager. I will always be a supporter but the passion for me has gone, at least for the time being. By seeing the empty seats at the stadium iam not the only one. I would love the club to give an accurate attendance figure instead of lying. Hopefully in the near future somebody will come into the club to re ignite that passion, but it needs to be someone who will stand up to the totally inept hierarchy at the club, and that is where the problem lies, until the structure of the club is sorted nothing will change, we will always have second rate “yes men” at the helm.
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Post by knype on Sept 25, 2019 9:13:46 GMT
I see someone has started a thread about voting with your feet. Well this season after having a season ticket for the best part of 54 years I decided enough was enough and decided not to renew along with friends I have sat with for years. I decided I would still go to the games but on my own terms, not feeling I had to go because I had a season ticket. I also said I would still go to the away games because of the away day out, good company and a good few scoops. So far I have only been to one away game and two home games and let me tell you I don’t miss going in the slightest. I can’t believe how this club have totally knocked everything I loved about “ my club “ out of me. This runs much deeper than the manager. I will always be a supporter but the passion for me has gone, at least for the time being. By seeing the empty seats at the stadium iam not the only one. I would love the club to give an accurate attendance figure instead of lying. Hopefully in the near future somebody will come into the club to re ignite that passion, but it needs to be someone who will stand up to the totally inept hierarchy at the club, and that is where the problem lies, until the structure of the club is sorted nothing will change, we will always have second rate “yes men” at the helm. Absolute nail on head! |
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Post by philb on Sept 25, 2019 9:28:16 GMT
I see someone has started a thread about voting with your feet. Well this season after having a season ticket for the best part of 54 years I decided enough was enough and decided not to renew along with friends I have sat with for years. I decided I would still go to the games but on my own terms, not feeling I had to go because I had a season ticket. I also said I would still go to the away games because of the away day out, good company and a good few scoops. So far I have only been to one away game and two home games and let me tell you I don’t miss going in the slightest. I can’t believe how this club have totally knocked everything I loved about “ my club “ out of me. This runs much deeper than the manager. I will always be a supporter but the passion for me has gone, at least for the time being. By seeing the empty seats at the stadium iam not the only one. I would love the club to give an accurate attendance figure instead of lying. Hopefully in the near future somebody will come into the club to re ignite that passion, but it needs to be someone who will stand up to the totally inept hierarchy at the club, and that is where the problem lies, until the structure of the club is sorted nothing will change, we will always have second rate “yes men” at the helm. It’s interesting that it’s got to the stage now where people are just giving up. I renewed with my wife and child as it’s the first time we’ve been able to sit together, as for 30 odd years i always went with my brother. He stopped going at the end of last season. I often thought during the off season of how much he’d miss not going and I asked him last week. He simply said ‘not at all’ He still listens on the radio etc but says the ‘spark’ has gone out of it for him after all these years. I have to admit I was close last season myself having put up with the way this clubs been run on and off the pitch for the last 4 seasons, but I thought I’d give it one more go. £1000 is a lot of money to come home miserable week in week out and at the moment I can’t see myself paying that next season unfortunately. I’ve noticed that you still get comments like ‘bog off up the Vale then’ and ‘the Club doesn’t need supporters like you’ but most people are seemingly accepting that it’s ok now to ‘fall out of love with Stoke’ Sad times indeed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 10:37:36 GMT
Surely the top knobs have got the message, and surely they cannot allow this to continue. It's so sad to see this great club in such a mess. We used to love going, but we're not prepared to pay good money out to watch sub standard, mediocre players producing this shite!
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Post by dreamtheater on Sept 25, 2019 10:47:33 GMT
The spirit of the original posting is very similar to mine too and is particularly well articulated
(yet Ive had pelters on here for a similar stance but stopped going too)
no matter
The point is this:-
those accountable really do need holding to account properly by the local media and supporters now
and they must step forward and explain themselves
for this is now beyond humiliation and a disaster
I am talking Jon Coates - Tony Scholes in particular and then --- the team manager
has anyone got the gumption to actually challenge them and they in turn, step forward ?
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Post by louis11 on Sept 25, 2019 10:53:24 GMT
Ive not been taken over the edge yet, but after 50plus years I have also lost the passion. I have organised weddings holidays, trips away all around Stoke for ever, and have recently not bothered. The cup games including last night, I would be searching madly for a stream or commentary but was not bothered and the eventual inevitability just made me shrug my shoulders, not cry with pain.
This manager is not up to the job, he has to go, but it is more than that. I link the decline of the whole club to Coates junior's taking over most of the control of the reigns. Peter has had his day, he is way into his 70's and the reality is that with Junior and his partner in crime Teflon Scholes overseeing matters we are just sliding away.
Dark days are all we can look forward to, unless Peter realises "what all the fuss is about" and takes action
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 25, 2019 18:08:59 GMT
I see someone has started a thread about voting with your feet. Well this season after having a season ticket for the best part of 54 years I decided enough was enough and decided not to renew along with friends I have sat with for years. I decided I would still go to the games but on my own terms, not feeling I had to go because I had a season ticket. I also said I would still go to the away games because of the away day out, good company and a good few scoops. So far I have only been to one away game and two home games and let me tell you I don’t miss going in the slightest. I can’t believe how this club have totally knocked everything I loved about “ my club “ out of me. This runs much deeper than the manager. I will always be a supporter but the passion for me has gone, at least for the time being. By seeing the empty seats at the stadium iam not the only one. I would love the club to give an accurate attendance figure instead of lying. Hopefully in the near future somebody will come into the club to re ignite that passion, but it needs to be someone who will stand up to the totally inept hierarchy at the club, and that is where the problem lies, until the structure of the club is sorted nothing will change, we will always have second rate “yes men” at the helm. Quality post. That to me sums it up for at least 50% of our fans. And the club should be showing a lot more concern than they are currently showing as a result. But alas they are clueless wankers. So out of touch its scary. |
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Post by potter25 on Sept 25, 2019 18:17:15 GMT
I’ve been invited to go Leek Town next weekend in fa cup against Kings Lynn and I’m genuinely looking forward to that more than Forest and Huddersfield
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Post by ilfracoombestokie3 on Sept 25, 2019 18:33:17 GMT
What a load of Premiership loving Wankstains, all convening tucked up together in 1 room.
SCFC is in your Blood for life, no matter how good we are, or how toss we are, if you wanna leave, fucking leave, you don't have too tell your fucking sob story on here.
I honestly think in the long run, SCFC will be better off without people like you, Good Riddance & Never come back when it gets better.
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Post by bingbang on Sept 25, 2019 20:26:53 GMT
Why are we wankstains for telling how it is ? You obviously are not the smartest of guys as you have to resort to swearing and being aggressive. Calm down it's a matter of opinions
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 25, 2019 20:38:31 GMT
I have many friends who have not renewed or who have and cant be arsed to go. For me I will always go because every time I go through the ritual of walking to the ground, going through the turnstile, taking my seat I have the hope that we are going to play as a team and see the team give something back to us the fans, a game filled with passion and excitement, to get me off my seat and into that pure ecstasy when we score or nick a winner.
Unfortunately I haven't had this feeling for the last 3 years and instead turn up in the hope that it might be different than the last time i walked away from the stadium feeling lower than a snakes belly and wondering what the fuck is happening to the club I love and have followed all my life.
I still keep going because one day the only way will be up, I just hope it starts to happen before we get to the stage of stands not needed to be opened because there are not enough fans in them to warrant the concourse being manned.
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Post by thehoof on Sept 25, 2019 20:44:55 GMT
What a load of Premiership loving Wankstains, all convening tucked up together in 1 room. SCFC is in your Blood for life, no matter how good we are, or how toss we are, if you wanna leave, fucking leave, you don't have too tell your fucking sob story on here. I honestly think in the long run, SCFC will be better off without people like you, Good Riddance & Never come back when it gets better. If a guy has had a season ticket for 50 odd years, how does that make him a Premiership Wankstain? Your knuckles must be red raw the amount of time they spend being dragged along the floor. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 25, 2019 20:46:37 GMT
When the going gets tough
The tough get going
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 25, 2019 20:52:35 GMT
What a load of Premiership loving Wankstains, all convening tucked up together in 1 room. SCFC is in your Blood for life, no matter how good we are, or how toss we are, if you wanna leave, fucking leave, you don't have too tell your fucking sob story on here. I honestly think in the long run, SCFC will be better off without people like you, Good Riddance & Never come back when it gets better. I know mate. I live in Glasgow, but I still make the effort to watch an online stream or listen to the radio. Yourself? Have you got superfast broadband in ilfracombe? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 20:53:08 GMT
I don't think it's just Stoke it's football in general.
I used to regard myself as a football nut, these days other than watching us I'm not even sure I like football most of the time.
The disconnect between fans and players in the top divisions, the way you're treated as a number not a fan, the cheating and histrionics, the over priced tat that they try and flog you, the barely cold shite beer they sell you in the concourse, I could go on.
For those disillusioned with the game I recommend going to visit your local non-league team - even if its just now and again - I always come away feeling better about the game afterwards.......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 21:24:36 GMT
What a load of Premiership loving Wankstains, all convening tucked up together in 1 room. SCFC is in your Blood for life, no matter how good we are, or how toss we are, if you wanna leave, fucking leave, you don't have too tell your fucking sob story on here. I honestly think in the long run, SCFC will be better off without people like you, Good Riddance & Never come back when it gets better. Well what a hero you are.
People like myself have seen Stoke playing with a winning team at the highest level forty years ago?. We have also seen what happened next. Years and years in the lower leagues. (Were you there then?)
We have seen our team once again playing at the highest level - and have seen it thrown away. Please do not state that the club is better without "people like us".
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Post by mattyd on Sept 25, 2019 21:29:26 GMT
I don't think it's just Stoke it's football in general. I used to regard myself as a football nut, these days other than watching us I'm not even sure I like football most of the time. The disconnect between fans and players in the top divisions, the way you're treated as a number not a fan, the cheating and histrionics, the over priced tat that they try and flog you, the barely cold shite beer they sell you in the concourse, I could go on. For those disillusioned with the game I recommend going to visit your local non-league team - even if its just now and again - I always come away feeling better about the game afterwards....... Spot on PP. Just can't be arsed watching it at all these days, and when you look at the thrills and spills the cricket served up over the summer there will be a resurgence there, possibly at the expense of footy. |
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Post by mattyd on Sept 25, 2019 21:30:46 GMT
What a load of Premiership loving Wankstains, all convening tucked up together in 1 room. SCFC is in your Blood for life, no matter how good we are, or how toss we are, if you wanna leave, fucking leave, you don't have too tell your fucking sob story on here. I honestly think in the long run, SCFC will be better off without people like you, Good Riddance & Never come back when it gets better. Well what a hero you are.
People like myself have seen Stoke playing with a winning team at the highest level forty years ago?. We have also seen what happened next. Years and years in the lower leagues. (Were you there then?)
We have seen our team once again playing at the highest level - and have seen it thrown away. Please do not state that the club is better without "people like us".
Give him a break Clem, he's only 3...Or maybe that's his IQ... Or maybe the number of times he has been to a game... |
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Post by bingbang on Sept 25, 2019 21:39:23 GMT
When I created the post I was going to add it's not just Stoke its football in general, in my eyes that has lost the passion.when Sky came on board it was great but they messed, messed, and then messed again until they created this monster no longer in touch with reality.Too many foreigners earning stupid money for being average.Rge cricket this summer was a joy to watch can't remember the last time I felt that passion watching an England football game.Need to get back to the basics in this country, school matches, county matches etc. get rid of these pointless academies.This post comes from a so called wankstain who stood in Upton Park as a 12 year old watching Gordon Banks make that penalty save.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 21:43:59 GMT
What a load of Premiership loving Wankstains, all convening tucked up together in 1 room. SCFC is in your Blood for life, no matter how good we are, or how toss we are, if you wanna leave, fucking leave, you don't have too tell your fucking sob story on here. I honestly think in the long run, SCFC will be better off without people like you, Good Riddance & Never come back when it gets better. Grow up. |
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Post by gibby1409 on Sept 25, 2019 21:59:45 GMT
So much to relate to on this thread. I've not had a ST this year, two reason's, one being away at weekends quite a bit, and the other, which if I'm honest is the real reason, is that I've lost some of the passion & enjoyment for the game. That feeling when you woke up and it's game day, its gone, and I've become bored with the whole football "thing" I first went in 1969, and I've seen the good times and the bad times, made some great friends, and had some unforgettable experiences. And in that period, I've had a few absences for varying periods of time, for either family commitments, playing on a Sat, or when monies been tight. But I've always had the passion, and would follow the game from wherever I could. I still do, but to a much lesser degree, and I'm enjoying not going every week, which seems odd. I've gone away from having my mood set depending on the result! Thats made a huge difference to me, because I'd have been at the end of my fu***ng tether by now!  But seriously, I think there is an apathy in the support, and whilst its mainly based on our dire results and how we've just fallen apart as a club. I also think that football in general has lost so much. Its not "our" game any longer, and the influx of money, whilst it's great to a point, has meant that the top 6 in the prem is almost nailed on each season, and its arguable that all the remaining clubs in that league are at risk of relegation. A far cry form the comparatively level playing fields of the 70's, when many clubs could actually win the league. But back to our club, I truly hope things are sorted out quickly, and we get back on the right path. And who knows, even an old bastard like me may regain his enthusiasm |
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Post by blooter on Sept 26, 2019 4:37:19 GMT
I didn't renew for the first time in over 30 years as I decided to pick and choose when to go.
Went the first one. That was enough. I just can't relate to these very rich players not giving a shit about the club I've loved all my life.
Got a dog and now go for a walk with him to the pub and back every game. Far more enjoyable.
Even managed to come off the blood pressure tablets :-)
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Post by Stokyo on Sept 26, 2019 5:37:48 GMT
What a load of Premiership loving Wankstains, all convening tucked up together in 1 room. SCFC is in your Blood for life, no matter how good we are, or how toss we are, if you wanna leave, fucking leave, you don't have too tell your fucking sob story on here. I honestly think in the long run, SCFC will be better off without people like you, Good Riddance & Never come back when it gets better. At what point do you say enough is enough?. Will you let the owners and management run the club into the ground but show up every week to pay the wages of the millionaires twats not giving a fuck on the field? If anything you are hurting the long term future of the club by going regardless and letting them get away with it. |
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Post by AlanHansen on Sept 26, 2019 21:46:15 GMT
I see someone has started a thread about voting with your feet. Well this season after having a season ticket for the best part of 54 years I decided enough was enough and decided not to renew along with friends I have sat with for years. I decided I would still go to the games but on my own terms, not feeling I had to go because I had a season ticket. I also said I would still go to the away games because of the away day out, good company and a good few scoops. So far I have only been to one away game and two home games and let me tell you I don’t miss going in the slightest. I can’t believe how this club have totally knocked everything I loved about “ my club “ out of me. This runs much deeper than the manager. I will always be a supporter but the passion for me has gone, at least for the time being. By seeing the empty seats at the stadium iam not the only one. I would love the club to give an accurate attendance figure instead of lying. Hopefully in the near future somebody will come into the club to re ignite that passion, but it needs to be someone who will stand up to the totally inept hierarchy at the club, and that is where the problem lies, until the structure of the club is sorted nothing will change, we will always have second rate “yes men” at the helm. Sorry to hear Simon. Hopefully you'll still be running a bus to Huddersfield on NY day. I've been a season ticket holder since the late 70s and still have one now. Home games though are unfortunately becoming a bit of chore, that's the reality of it. I have little to no affinity with the majority the overpaid wankers wearing the shirt and I'm furious with the hierarchy for letting us get in this mess, it's been 4 years now. The CEO has to go, whatever happens next. I've been to Charlton and Brentford away this season, both good days but awful games, and Duisberg. I've been to over 400 away games down the years, but I'll be picking them very carefully until the New Year. A couple of us decided to take a game in at Cowdenbeath the other week instead of another trip to Birmingham (seriously). The whole thing was very enjoyable. In fact we're going back up to watch a Queens Park home game next week. It's that desperate, I feel your pain. We've been through some proper shit down the years but this malaise is taking the biscuit. |
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Post by Onneravineet on Sept 26, 2019 22:01:05 GMT
The danger is that, as the OP himself states, that decision to step back is in fact the tip of the iceberg. One of my mates was incensed so much by the Icelandic owners he decided to stop going. He hasn’t been regular since and that relationship has ended. Looking back it’s hard to fathom as week in week out he went. Home and away.
I have lost count of the times I have heard, including myself, “I buy a season ticket because that’s what I do...not because in particularly enjoy it”. The fear is that once you do stop the cycle you fill the time, or should I say the Mrs does, and then your days as a supporter are stories and your memories.
One of those was on one New Year’s Day when James O’Conner scored a cracking diving header and we all involuntarily jumped up celebrating. It was fucking freezing and we all still remember the pain in our feet. Think it was Blackpool we beat. When he was there for all that but yet didn’t have the inclination to go through the Prem years just shows me even the most ardent of fans stop going.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 26, 2019 22:06:59 GMT
I think the thing that is really killing the will of people going to games is not necessarily the results themselves (though I dare say the hooray Henry's who jumped on the bandwagon when we were beating the Arsenal's, Man Utds and Chelsea's deserted us a while back). It's the fact that there's no ambition from anyone connected with the club, no hope of things turning around anytime soon - we have been dreadful for nearly 3 years now and we're only going further backwards, more dithering from them upstairs - surprise surprise lessons have not been learnt and the same processes are in place, albeit we are shopping in Poundland now rather than Waitrose, and nothing to get us excited - if we were in the position we are now but we're genuinely unlucky, and had a young, dynamic team who at least tried to play entertaining football like NJ promised instead of a new bunch of over paid over rated and undertalented old journeymen and losers who are only here for the paycheck or can't believe they have somehow ended up here, I reckon a lot of people would still get behind us. Long story short, the apathy around our club has spread to the fans.
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Post by blackpoolred on Sept 26, 2019 22:25:27 GMT
I see someone has started a thread about voting with your feet. Well this season after having a season ticket for the best part of 54 years I decided enough was enough and decided not to renew along with friends I have sat with for years. I decided I would still go to the games but on my own terms, not feeling I had to go because I had a season ticket. I also said I would still go to the away games because of the away day out, good company and a good few scoops. So far I have only been to one away game and two home games and let me tell you I don’t miss going in the slightest. I can’t believe how this club have totally knocked everything I loved about “ my club “ out of me. This runs much deeper than the manager. I will always be a supporter but the passion for me has gone, at least for the time being. By seeing the empty seats at the stadium iam not the only one. I would love the club to give an accurate attendance figure instead of lying. Hopefully in the near future somebody will come into the club to re ignite that passion, but it needs to be someone who will stand up to the totally inept hierarchy at the club, and that is where the problem lies, until the structure of the club is sorted nothing will change, we will always have second rate “yes men” at the helm. My love affair ended in 2011 and for different reasons to yourself - of which I can fully understand(there is only so many years of torture you can take). I said if I saw a Stoke player roll around on the floor like he had been shot or If they did not sort out being able to stand at games then I would not renew. Lucky for me I ended on our 1 and only cup final appearance. I still have the passion and like to go to the odd game, but I find the modern-day game, on the whole, utter shite. I went to the Preston game this season, but not ashamed to admit I only lasted 60 mins and think it will be a while before I go to watch the current bunch of snowflakes in Stoke shirts. If the players look like they can't be arsed then us as fans should not feel obliged to be arsed to turn up either. I may go to a few more games when it looks like the club/players can at least muster some enthusiasm. Sad thing is I took my daughters to their 1st game last year(3-0 home defeat to Wigan) and they loved the atmosphere and keep asking when can we go again. Some time soon I say Would love to take them to a game when there really is a rocking atmosphere - let's hope those days can come back a bit sooner than we are all anticipating |
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Post by bingbang on Sept 26, 2019 22:53:44 GMT
Although I made my decision as a Stoke fan I seriously think football has a massive problem. I remember saying to my son when we were in the premier I was getting a bit bored with football, I could never see us breaking into the top six, but by the same token could never see us going down, so effectively we were being entertained by watching the so called super stars in the top 6 or 7. Low and behold we then get relegated. I was genuinely excited that at last we would have something to play for and we would return to become stronger like Phoenix from the flames. Somehow that all went pear shaped and we have ended up where we are, still on that route to the abyss with absolutely nothing to play for as nobody at the club gives a toss apart from the fans. Oh and by the way bus will still be on for new year's Day as it's a chance to bring in the new year with good company and a heart full of hope.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 10:33:27 GMT
Cheer up all, It could be worse. You could be Bury Fans !
GD
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 27, 2019 10:54:18 GMT
I see someone has started a thread about voting with your feet. Well this season after having a season ticket for the best part of 54 years I decided enough was enough and decided not to renew along with friends I have sat with for years. I decided I would still go to the games but on my own terms, not feeling I had to go because I had a season ticket. I also said I would still go to the away games because of the away day out, good company and a good few scoops. So far I have only been to one away game and two home games and let me tell you I don’t miss going in the slightest. I can’t believe how this club have totally knocked everything I loved about “ my club “ out of me. This runs much deeper than the manager. I will always be a supporter but the passion for me has gone, at least for the time being. By seeing the empty seats at the stadium iam not the only one. I would love the club to give an accurate attendance figure instead of lying. Hopefully in the near future somebody will come into the club to re ignite that passion, but it needs to be someone who will stand up to the totally inept hierarchy at the club, and that is where the problem lies, until the structure of the club is sorted nothing will change, we will always have second rate “yes men” at the helm. I understand that you haven't missed it in the slightest because we've been crap, but if we'd got off to a flying start and were fighting at the right end of the table I bet that a) you would have been to more games so far this season and b) if you hadn't been to more games, you would be missing it. Yet again, the reason your aren't going and aren't missing it is because we are crap. If and when we ever get good again, you'll be back or you'll be so henpecked by people who have become accustomed to you being around on a matchday that you'll be missing it terribly, wishing you'd never given it up in the first place. I haven't attended as many matches as I have in previous seasons because of football commitments with my kids but even though we are shit, I'm missing it. I miss the craic with lads I've grown up with, I miss sharing it with my boys and I miss supporting the team. God willing, M6 traffic allows me to get down for the game tonight once my eldest has finished playing for his school! |
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But seriously, I think there is an apathy in the support, and whilst its mainly based on our dire results and how we've just fallen apart as a club. I also think that football in general has lost so much. Its not "our" game any longer, and the influx of money, whilst it's great to a point, has meant that the top 6 in the prem is almost nailed on each season, and its arguable that all the remaining clubs in that league are at risk of relegation. A far cry form the comparatively level playing fields of the 70's, when many clubs could actually win the league. 
