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Post by whakka on Sept 21, 2019 17:59:48 GMT
I wonder how many of you moaning fuckers thought wed lose 2 or 3 nil before the game ? Your off your head too seems anyone with sense is off there head on here
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Post by whakka on Sept 21, 2019 18:02:34 GMT
A stop the rot point for me. Was expecting a hammering. First time all season we have looked solid at the back Happy,delerious? No of course not. Not going to go from shit in both boxes to sparkling football in one go. They’ve only scored 6 all season haven’t they? It was never going to be a hammering. They were awful and we didn’t test their keeper. That’s poor. someone needs a reality check where in the last 2 years have we looked good enough to be going anywhere and taking 3 points? It's a start and hopefully a platform to build on
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Post by march4 on Sept 21, 2019 18:07:43 GMT
It wasn’t very good was it?
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Post by whakka on Sept 21, 2019 18:12:37 GMT
It wasn’t very good was it? but it got us a point
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 21, 2019 18:20:30 GMT
Not good enough for me.
He goes for me now. Get someone in before the two home games to come.
If he stays, he needs 6 points.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 21, 2019 18:33:04 GMT
Well, I'm finally there.
Despite being a pulis hating wankstain, right now I'll take pulis back...just for the season.
I'm at panic stations. We're going down, no doubt
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Post by canadianmoose on Sept 21, 2019 18:33:34 GMT
Midfield looked hugely more organized and better without Allen. I’m sure it did considering we had zero support for the lone striker for most of the game. Awful, awful game of football. Christ, people don’t want Pulis back but that was a proper Pulis away performance. Allen in there or not would have made zero difference today.
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Post by thehoof on Sept 21, 2019 18:44:56 GMT
Relegation, debt loan to pay back, FFP, purchasing wrong characters. Players falling out, bomb squad. Players wanting to leave. Some supporters expect to be watching man city. We finished 16th. Close the chapter on last season. We are starting over. Sad but true. Back to being pre premier league. We are a small club. For now we have a dedicated manager and players who want to play for us.we know Butland and Badou would like to play in the premier league .They have their sleeves rolled up. It true Jones didn't have his best players until now. We know all clubs have an history of good and bad times. Trust Jones's career history. Okay Victoria. His career history is based on League 2 and a half season in League 1, which is where he will lead without too much trouble. His recent comments in the Sentinel Thursday- we are good going forward ( despite averaging .75 goals per game under him), we are good on the ball ( look at all the shots the opposition keeper never has to save) are probably for morale purposes because they are not backed up by facts. Today is a welcome point, but we now need 6 from the two home games, otherwise we will be certainties for the drop.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 18:50:35 GMT
Midfield looked hugely more organized and better without Allen. I’m sure it did considering we had zero support for the loan striker for most of the game. Awful, awful game of football. Christ, people don’t want Pulis back but that was a proper Pulis away performance. Allen in there or not would have made zero difference today. Pulis reverted to that football when in desperate needs. Sometimes you just have to dig deep and get a point. Just something. By the sounds of it, it wasn’t pretty, however it’s something. If we had lost heavily (which I half expected) then I think we would have been looking for a new manager tonight. Jones is a proud man that wants to succeed. By the sounds of it those players gave 100% and dig deep. We now need to follow that up with two huge wins and kick on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 18:51:49 GMT
I wonder how many of you moaning fuckers thought wed lose 2 or 3 nil before the game ? 2 points out of 8 games. A total of 4 wins in 35. Just at what point are us fuckers allowed to moan? Honestly you’re an entertainment business’ dream. Happy clap and smile along to any old shit, usually the sign of a simpleton.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 18:53:31 GMT
The simple fact is the squad isn’t good enough, it’s too slow, too predictable and lacks technical quality.
This is his doing and a long way from this flowing fast football be promised us.
He’s bought a load of duffers all over the park because they apparently give 100%.
Well ya know what Nath you’re definitely putting a team to be proud of together.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 18:53:49 GMT
He's ran out of time for me. For how poor Brentford were 3 points should've been the bare minimum. 8 games, 2 points. Adios. Brentford were poor and so were Stoke. Fair result. In Fantasy Football 3 points can be minimum...not in the real world!
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Post by canadianmoose on Sept 21, 2019 18:56:41 GMT
I’m sure it did considering we had zero support for the loan striker for most of the game. Awful, awful game of football. Christ, people don’t want Pulis back but that was a proper Pulis away performance. Allen in there or not would have made zero difference today. Pulis reverted to that football when in desperate needs. Sometimes you just have to dig deep and get a point. Just something. By the sounds of it, it wasn’t pretty, however it’s something. If we had lost heavily (which I half expected) then I think we would have been looking for a new manager tonight. Jones is a proud man that wants to succeed. By the sounds of it those players gave 100% and dig deep. We now need to follow that up with two huge wins and kick on Yes, Pulis reverted to this when we were very much the underdogs. Now we are celebrating a battling point at Brentford with the most expensively assembled team in the championship. You couldn’t make this shit up. Nathan has had all summer to stamp his mark on this side and has had the backing to bring in a large amount of players. The net result is zero in terms of the style, pace and Intensity of football being played. He made the promises about what we would get and said “judge me now” at the start of the season. Well, I am judging him now and it’s crap. Utter crap.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 18:58:48 GMT
Pulis reverted to that football when in desperate needs. Sometimes you just have to dig deep and get a point. Just something. By the sounds of it, it wasn’t pretty, however it’s something. If we had lost heavily (which I half expected) then I think we would have been looking for a new manager tonight. Jones is a proud man that wants to succeed. By the sounds of it those players gave 100% and dig deep. We now need to follow that up with two huge wins and kick on Yes, Pulis reverted to this when we were very much the underdogs. Now we are celebrating a battling point at Brentford with the most expensively assembled team in the championship. You couldn’t make this shit up. Pulis spent huge amounts of money aswell and set teams up to defend a 1-0 loss! The facts are were as low as a snakes belly at the moment and we need a bit of confidence from somewhere. That today may just be that little bit of something to get us believing in ourselves. Of course a win would have been fantastic but where we are we just needed stop the rot.
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Post by canadianmoose on Sept 21, 2019 19:00:28 GMT
Yes, Pulis reverted to this when we were very much the underdogs. Now we are celebrating a battling point at Brentford with the most expensively assembled team in the championship. You couldn’t make this shit up. Pulis spent huge amounts of money aswell and set teams up to defend a 1-0 loss! The facts are were as low as a snakes belly at the moment and we need a bit of confidence from somewhere. That today may just be that little bit of something to get us believing in ourselves. Of course a win would have been fantastic but where we are we just needed stop the rot. Yes....In the premier league. You seem to think I want Pulis back? Not at all but to say it would be worse than this horseshit is just nonsense.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2019 19:01:03 GMT
seems anyone with sense is off there head on here [br I’m not being funny mate but anyone with sense can see we have to change manager. Yes I am one of the moaning fuckers on here and I was really wanting it work for Jones but just look at his stoke city record. My Leeds mate can’t believe we haven’t sacked him yet so I’m sure we have given him a good chance. For the good of Stoke City and probably Nathan Jones we need to part company quickly otherwise we are going down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 19:05:59 GMT
How easily pleased are Stoke? We haven't got beaten because they are struggling to score as well. If this is the limit of our ambition we should have kept Lambert! The squad might not be great, but Jones isn't playing to the few strengths we have. I would get Hughton in while we still can. We won't, though. Of course it's not the limit of our ambition. But what you had out there were 11 players scared shitless of another defeat after being told throughout the week how useless they are. So for them some degree of elation gives them a better platform further on.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 21, 2019 19:06:15 GMT
Small steps and all that. I would have taken a point before the game and I would definitely have taken a clean sheet. It's a confidence building exercise. Nathan has been fucking awful since he's been here but his record shows there is a decent coach in there. My loyalty was seriously wavering after the Preston and Leeds (league game) performances but the last couple of league games show the players are still with the manager. I'm in for the long haul because there really doesn't seem to be too many better coaches/managers out there that would come to Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 19:06:59 GMT
Pulis spent huge amounts of money aswell and set teams up to defend a 1-0 loss! The facts are were as low as a snakes belly at the moment and we need a bit of confidence from somewhere. That today may just be that little bit of something to get us believing in ourselves. Of course a win would have been fantastic but where we are we just needed stop the rot. Yes....In the premier league. You seem to think I want Pulis back? Not at all but to say it would be worse than this horseshit is just nonsense. You’ve actually lost me on the part where you assume I think you want pulis back. I was merely stating that we’ve been big spenders in the past and tried to defend a 1-0 loss. Spending lots of cash doesn’t guarantee anything. What we need to do is get back to basics and quickly. Get a solid foundation and then build. I couldn’t care less about free flowing football at the minute, just shore that defence and build a platform. Performances will come with confidence, so perhaps scrapping out a few hard fought points will actually breed a bit of confidence
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Post by whakka on Sept 21, 2019 19:07:22 GMT
The simple fact is the squad isn’t good enough, it’s too slow, too predictable and lacks technical quality. This is his doing and a long way from this flowing fast football be promised us. He’s bought a load of duffers all over the park because they apparently give 100%. Well ya know what Nath you’re definitely putting a team to be proud of together. and the fans wont give em time settle to gain any sort of momentum and confidence
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Post by whakka on Sept 21, 2019 19:09:17 GMT
I wonder how many of you moaning fuckers thought wed lose 2 or 3 nil before the game ? 2 points out of 8 games. A total of 4 wins in 35. Just at what point are us fuckers allowed to moan? Honestly you’re an entertainment business’ dream. Happy clap and smile along to any old shit, usually the sign of a simpleton. just someone that doesn't pick and choose when to support the club were going through a rough time but it will get better
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 21, 2019 19:12:33 GMT
How easily pleased are Stoke? We haven't got beaten because they are struggling to score as well. If this is the limit of our ambition we should have kept Lambert! The squad might not be great, but Jones isn't playing to the few strengths we have. I would get Hughton in while we still can. We won't, though. Of course it's not the limit of our ambition. But what you had out there were 11 players scared shitless of another defeat after being told throughout the week how useless they are. So for them some degree of elation gives them a better platform further on. Who has been telling them they are useless that they would know of ? maybe they have come to that natural conclusion it wouldn't take a rocket scientist would it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 19:13:01 GMT
If we don't beat Forest it has to be the end,we can't go on like this beyond Friday If a bottom league team doesn't beat a top five team, it's the end. Can't you see how ridiculous that is...
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 21, 2019 19:13:50 GMT
Well, I'm finally there. Despite being a pulis hating wankstain, right now I'll take pulis back...just for the season. I'm at panic stations. We're going down, no doubt We are only 15 points off top spot mate. Dunna fret
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 21, 2019 19:14:41 GMT
2 points out of 8 games. A total of 4 wins in 35. Just at what point are us fuckers allowed to moan? Honestly you’re an entertainment business’ dream. Happy clap and smile along to any old shit, usually the sign of a simpleton. just someone that doesn't pick and choose when to support the club were going through a rough time but it will get better After watching that shit show today I wouldn't bet on that, to win games you need to score goals we played a loan striker who hasn't score a goal for us since signing, did he win a header all game ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 19:15:05 GMT
Well, I'm finally there. Despite being a pulis hating wankstain, right now I'll take pulis back...just for the season. I'm at panic stations. We're going down, no doubt We are only 15 points off top spot mate. Dunna fret
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 19:16:36 GMT
If we don't beat Forest it has to be the end,we can't go on like this beyond Friday If a bottom league team doesn't beat a top five team, it's the end. Can't you see how ridiculous that is... Given Jones's record no, not ridiculous in the slightest. When do you say enough is enough ? Another 5 games ? Xmas ? When ?
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 21, 2019 19:16:50 GMT
Relegation, debt loan to pay back, FFP, purchasing wrong characters. Players falling out, bomb squad. Players wanting to leave. Some supporters expect to be watching man city. We finished 16th. Close the chapter on last season. We are starting over. Sad but true. Back to being pre premier league. We are a small club. For now we have a dedicated manager and players who want to play for us.we know Butland and Badou would like to play in the premier league .They have their sleeves rolled up. It true Jones didn't have his best players until now. We know all clubs have an history of good and bad times. Trust Jones's career history. Why throw away good evidence from last season that he couldn't coach, motivate or organise a team to be better than it had been before he arrived - not even when given 12m, which is a considerable sum in the Championship? Isn't it reasonable to expect all managers are dedicated, otherwise they wouldn't be given the job. But more to the point, why does being dedicated affect whether Jones should stay or go? His career history tells you he has no experience of this level or any level like it. I did a bit of research on managers from the lower league recently, who were moved into the Championship with no prior experience of the league or one of comporable standing or above. Of a wide collection, bar Alex Neil, none had got promoted since records of the league started in 2004 unless they brought their own team up and so knew it well. The great majority failed, a few underwhelmed their boards for a year or two and were sacked, a good few got relegated. What is their to trust about someone with this sort of record? (If I was trusting his record, it would more be trusting that it wouldn't be anywhere near good enough to produce a team challenging at the top of the league).
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 21, 2019 19:17:07 GMT
The simple fact is the squad isn’t good enough, it’s too slow, too predictable and lacks technical quality. This is his doing and a long way from this flowing fast football be promised us. He’s bought a load of duffers all over the park because they apparently give 100%. Well ya know what Nath you’re definitely putting a team to be proud of together. and the fans wont give em time settle to gain any sort of momentum and confidence How can they get any momentum when the manager who signed them doesn't trust them to play ? how many of his signings started again today was it three ?
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Post by thehoof on Sept 21, 2019 19:18:20 GMT
If we don't beat Forest it has to be the end,we can't go on like this beyond Friday If a bottom league team doesn't beat a top five team, it's the end. Can't you see how ridiculous that is... I thought this was the League where anyone can beat anyone else?When do you think a win would be acceptable? Game 9 would be about the average it takes Jones to generate a win.
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